Raga Srothaswini

kishorepalle · Post by **kishorepalle** » 15 Mar 2009, 23:02

Hello All,

I was wondering if any one here heard any compositions in raga Srothaswini. Its scale is same as Suddha Dhanyasi but Kaakali Nishadam instead Kaisaki Nishadam. I've composed two songs in the same raga. You can hear the raga as part of my raga pravaham (4 raga) also here at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpVu6oxObJE

If anyone heard any compositions, please post.

Thanks
Kishore

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 16 Mar 2009, 18:34

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 16 Mar 2009, 19:56

I think this has been discussed (more than once) elsewhere. This raga is actually called udayaravichandrika per diskhitar scheme (and early books). He has a composition in it (SrI guruguha mUrtE) - it has the raga mudra in it. Both the raga and this composition are rare in cm circles.

Of course you add on top that udayaravichandrika is also used for suddhadhanyasi per tyagaraja school and thus perhaps contributing to the eclipse of it. Although as Dr. V.V. Srivatsa ( see http://www.carnatica.net/newsletter/dha ... letter.htm towards the end), apparently govindacharya whose scheme tyagaraja followed treated udayaravichandrika and suddhadhanyasi as distinct and separate. Thus the confusion about the name w.r.t tyagaraja compositions probably rose later.

This raga obviously was renamed as srotaswini by someone who wasnt aware of the original name, its documentation in history, and the dikshitar composition.

Ilayaraja likes this raga a lot. Besides the above one, the more famous song is O vasantha raja from nIngaL kETTavai. I think he also uses a shade of it in the song pADum vAnambADi (nAn pADum pADal) - albeit for part of the song, and possibly with ri thrown on descent . There is another vani jayaram song which I cant recall now.

You even have people calling now that Ilayaraja discovered this raga

- but to be honest this raga is almost never heard in carnatic circles. It is a forgotten one in cm that has more exposure on the film side.

Arun

rajesh_rs · Post by **rajesh_rs** » 16 Mar 2009, 21:04

I too realized that Srothaswini was used in the Chandramukhi song. I hadn't heard of the raga until I played "Ra ra" and noticed it fit into a pentatonic scale which I later discovered was Srothaswini. Here's a blog post I wrote about it on my blog:

http://philramble.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/srothaswini/

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 16 Mar 2009, 21:11

Poojaiketha Poovithu nethu thaNe poothathu by chitra and gangai amaran (dont know the film) and a Sinthiya Venmani (KJ YesudAs and ???) in poonthota kavalkAraN are also in Srothaswini and both by illayarAjA.

kishorepalle · Post by **kishorepalle** » 19 Mar 2009, 21:04

Thanks for all the input guys,

I heard quite a few Telugu film songs set to this raga as well like,

Suman Prathi from Maharshi
Jai Chirangeeva from Jagadeka Veerudu Atiloka Sundari
Inka Inka from Sundarakanda.

But Ra Ra I believe is a mix of all like, Surya for the Pallavi, Srothaswini as the charnams and interludes, but Hindolam sometimes as it has sadharana gandharam.

Can anyone pls point me to any Carnatic compositions in this raga??

Srinivas sir, Can you please upload the mp3 of the river ganga song that you were referring to if you get a chance??

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 19 Mar 2009, 22:20

http://sangeethamshare.org/sunil/gurugu ... iraman.mp3

Arun