GhnanandaSthotram
Reethigowlai varnam-ata thala
Nadasudgarasam-aarabhi-Thyagaraja
kannada devarnama-vasantha-PD
Sugantha Kundalamba-Kundalam-MD
Ramakathasudha-madyamavathi-Thy
Thani
Sobillu sapthaswara-jaganmohini-Thy
Hemavathi-RTPtisra tirupudai-four kalai.
ninne nammithi neeve gathi neeraja dala nayana Rama,hare rama, seetha rama.
ramakrishnaru Devarnama.tilang.PD
Jayadeva Ashta padhi. villinai otha kavadichindu-barathiyar.
sai Bajan. Tillana in Sindubairavi.-Seshagopalan.
mangalam
Gayathri started with great expectations from the unusual crowd. vasantha was handled casualy and there was no weight..Madyamavathi raga missed many many important sangathis and it never touched the heart at all.Hemavathi raga was O.K. but the pallavi deserved some special mention . the home work was done very systamatically and it clicked alright.
The message from concerts like this gives a lesson to the aspiring performars ,is this; The performer should involve herself in music with lots of devotion and one should forget oneself and go deep into music.
Gayathri Girish in Ramalalitha kala mandir.bangalore
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mridhangam
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Smt.Gayatri Girish-Vocal, Shri.Raghu-Violin, Mannarkoil J.Balaji-Mridangam
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I beg to differ.
This was one of the best 3 hour 5 mins concert replete with all the ingredients of a successful concert. Right from the beginning there was never a moment of dull and it requires great efforts to sing a three hour concert of such high concert value. I thouroughly enjoyed the concert every bit of it and i even told this to Gayatri after the concert. "There was never a moment of dull and i never felt the lack of upapakkavadyam, which generally goes alongwith in a concert of longer duration, and i wished the concert went along for 30 mins more". I dont like the idea of the word unusual crowd ? was tmtfan aghast with the turnout for Gayatri Girish or was lamenting outwardly that such a crowd doesnt come for anyone of his coterie of artistes or whom he favours ? i dont get the idea at all. Every artiste wants audience to come to the concert and i am absolutely at a loss to understand his usage about "unusual crowd". There was absolute commitment to the subject by Gayatri Girish and right from the beginning she was concentrating on the music and how to render ragas, sangathis and swaras in a beautiful way.
When someone is having "Kadivaalam" view finer aspects and nuances go like the passing trees which the Horse cannot see. the beauty is in the sides and not on the road. It was an excellent madyamavati with technical brilliance mingled with aesthetic beauty which i thouroughly enjoyed to the core. Her excellent vilamba kala, madyama kala niraval had essence of the raga as well as the technicality of neraval singing. Her swaraprasthara had excellent variety and she had a nice koraippu patterns for 12 aksharas with variety for 4 * 3 times which was excellently replied by Raghu on the violin.
As i earlier said Beauty is not in the Black Tarred road it lies on the sides. The reviewer has completely failed to see the greenish pastoral beauty added by the sidemen. Excellent, sweet violin accompaniment was provided by Raghu who was earlier a disciple of Shri.B.U.Ganesh Prasad and now under the able tutelage of Smt.Neela Ramgopal and the wide varieties that i could produce for the songs, thani avartanam and also during the rendition of Pallavi.
Anyway i have not tried to provoke anyone by this hurried, haphazard review which is not without mistakes.
The thillana was not by T.N.Seshagopalan and it was a composition of Oothukadu Venkata Subbiyer.
Moreover She sang an excellent Karnarajani "Vanchathonuva" after the Madyamavathi piece.
Mannarkoil J Balaji
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I beg to differ.
This was one of the best 3 hour 5 mins concert replete with all the ingredients of a successful concert. Right from the beginning there was never a moment of dull and it requires great efforts to sing a three hour concert of such high concert value. I thouroughly enjoyed the concert every bit of it and i even told this to Gayatri after the concert. "There was never a moment of dull and i never felt the lack of upapakkavadyam, which generally goes alongwith in a concert of longer duration, and i wished the concert went along for 30 mins more". I dont like the idea of the word unusual crowd ? was tmtfan aghast with the turnout for Gayatri Girish or was lamenting outwardly that such a crowd doesnt come for anyone of his coterie of artistes or whom he favours ? i dont get the idea at all. Every artiste wants audience to come to the concert and i am absolutely at a loss to understand his usage about "unusual crowd". There was absolute commitment to the subject by Gayatri Girish and right from the beginning she was concentrating on the music and how to render ragas, sangathis and swaras in a beautiful way.
When someone is having "Kadivaalam" view finer aspects and nuances go like the passing trees which the Horse cannot see. the beauty is in the sides and not on the road. It was an excellent madyamavati with technical brilliance mingled with aesthetic beauty which i thouroughly enjoyed to the core. Her excellent vilamba kala, madyama kala niraval had essence of the raga as well as the technicality of neraval singing. Her swaraprasthara had excellent variety and she had a nice koraippu patterns for 12 aksharas with variety for 4 * 3 times which was excellently replied by Raghu on the violin.
As i earlier said Beauty is not in the Black Tarred road it lies on the sides. The reviewer has completely failed to see the greenish pastoral beauty added by the sidemen. Excellent, sweet violin accompaniment was provided by Raghu who was earlier a disciple of Shri.B.U.Ganesh Prasad and now under the able tutelage of Smt.Neela Ramgopal and the wide varieties that i could produce for the songs, thani avartanam and also during the rendition of Pallavi.
Anyway i have not tried to provoke anyone by this hurried, haphazard review which is not without mistakes.
The thillana was not by T.N.Seshagopalan and it was a composition of Oothukadu Venkata Subbiyer.
Moreover She sang an excellent Karnarajani "Vanchathonuva" after the Madyamavathi piece.
Mannarkoil J Balaji
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mridhangam
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Vijay sir
Thank you very much for the rejoinder. It was i felt onesided view without looking into the different facets of our music.
Elsewhere also i have said while commenting on Mr.Manjunath scathing criticism about Akella Garu, where i said "If u refute please justify". I may even ask our member tmtfan to justify what is devotion or where his heart was not touched ...and is there any reason to completely black out commenting about the accompanists who were on stage for the entire 3 hour 5 mins ? Certainly Gayatri's concert at Bangalore didnt deserve to be commented as if it was a poor example for the listeners and aspiring musicians by writing a moral at the end of the story. What better involvement an artiste can produce than a full fledged 3 hour 5 mins ?
Mannarkoil J Balaji
Thank you very much for the rejoinder. It was i felt onesided view without looking into the different facets of our music.
Elsewhere also i have said while commenting on Mr.Manjunath scathing criticism about Akella Garu, where i said "If u refute please justify". I may even ask our member tmtfan to justify what is devotion or where his heart was not touched ...and is there any reason to completely black out commenting about the accompanists who were on stage for the entire 3 hour 5 mins ? Certainly Gayatri's concert at Bangalore didnt deserve to be commented as if it was a poor example for the listeners and aspiring musicians by writing a moral at the end of the story. What better involvement an artiste can produce than a full fledged 3 hour 5 mins ?
Mannarkoil J Balaji
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ganeshkant
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Can any one pl.provide the grammar for Kundalam !
Let us have more sympathy on female artists esp.married ones and empathize with them also.A male can be a successful musician easily because his needs are taken care of by the female members of the family like mother/wife,whereas a married female artist has to first fulfil her duties as a wife,mother & daughter in law and then has to find time to do practice to keep her in form.
In short a woman has to put atleast 4 times effort than a man to perform to his level.I have read cases where the woman artists despite their talents have withdrawn from music and have curtailed themselves to be just wives and mothers or else come out and start a new life which is again not devoid of problems.
A performance of an artist basically requires free mind and good music may not be possible when your mind is enveloped by some type of grief.That is how inconsistency in performance comes.This is true to us who are working class also.
Let us have more sympathy on female artists esp.married ones and empathize with them also.A male can be a successful musician easily because his needs are taken care of by the female members of the family like mother/wife,whereas a married female artist has to first fulfil her duties as a wife,mother & daughter in law and then has to find time to do practice to keep her in form.
In short a woman has to put atleast 4 times effort than a man to perform to his level.I have read cases where the woman artists despite their talents have withdrawn from music and have curtailed themselves to be just wives and mothers or else come out and start a new life which is again not devoid of problems.
A performance of an artist basically requires free mind and good music may not be possible when your mind is enveloped by some type of grief.That is how inconsistency in performance comes.This is true to us who are working class also.
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vijay
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I agree - criticism helps if it justified by at least a smattering of technical details. It is of course possible that one doesn't enjoy a concert without being able to put a finger on it...but then, it would be better to just say that somehow it did not seem to click without being judgemental about it...of course one is free to air his/her opinion, notwithstanding the above
Ganeshkant I generally agree with your points - but grief sometimes produces the finest art! Many great artistes were very unhappy human beings....
Ganeshkant I generally agree with your points - but grief sometimes produces the finest art! Many great artistes were very unhappy human beings....
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mridhangam
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Kundalam is a Janya of Kanthamani tht is what Gayatri Announced.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Janya_Ragas it is here you can chek it up sir.
When it comes to music .. it is only music that matters the background shouldnt matter as such strictly speaking.
Actually in one of my casual chats with some artistes i was telling "How i wish i were able to explain during the concert that i had a bad day today. that is y i slipped there and slipped here etc etc. In the same way the main artiste should also be able to say "Ohh sorry today i went to school to drop my kid and while coming back i got a bad catch due to a bump on the road. Sorry for the bad kalyani !!!!! can it ever happen. The audience doesnot know the pains of the artiste and need not know also. What they want is a good concert which the artiste was able to provide in abundance at Bangalore. If u dispute please justify is my humble request.
J.Balaji
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Janya_Ragas it is here you can chek it up sir.
When it comes to music .. it is only music that matters the background shouldnt matter as such strictly speaking.
Actually in one of my casual chats with some artistes i was telling "How i wish i were able to explain during the concert that i had a bad day today. that is y i slipped there and slipped here etc etc. In the same way the main artiste should also be able to say "Ohh sorry today i went to school to drop my kid and while coming back i got a bad catch due to a bump on the road. Sorry for the bad kalyani !!!!! can it ever happen. The audience doesnot know the pains of the artiste and need not know also. What they want is a good concert which the artiste was able to provide in abundance at Bangalore. If u dispute please justify is my humble request.
J.Balaji
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ganeshkant
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JB sir,
I wanted to drive home a point to empathize with her/him, where an artist usually performs so well didn't perform that particular day as per the expectations .
You have written "come what may,I want results" like a bullying boss.You mean to say an artist should cancel his/her concert for that day in case they are disturbed ?
I wanted to drive home a point to empathize with her/him, where an artist usually performs so well didn't perform that particular day as per the expectations .
You have written "come what may,I want results" like a bullying boss.You mean to say an artist should cancel his/her concert for that day in case they are disturbed ?
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mridhangam
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Ganesh sir,
It is not like that ... i m not trying to be bullying. While i fully sympathize or empathize whatever with the artiste's inability on a particular day to perform .. the audience are at a loss to c this point of his or her inability to perform on a certain day due to his or her own personal or professional problems. I was driving home only that point. Once on stage it is better to forget and leave behind those failures and disappointments and just perform that is it. I was also driving a point that we dont have a method to disseminate or communicate to the audience that we are going to sing badly or perform badly today due to such and such problem. who doesnt have problem these days tell me ? Even for the above concert one septuagenerian came from a very far off place to listen. Do we mean to say he came in helicopter and was dropped off in helipad above the concert venue ? Life is not easy sir. Beyond all this an artiste has to look and perform on that day is what i meant. Despite our best efforts sometimes it fails and it is very difficult to explain to the audience. Only time can tell the difference. More so an artiste's merit is not decided on one good concert it is decided on an average of many such good concerts. That means consistency. This consistency can be achieved only with a better attitude towards the stage, audience and Life in general. An artiste need not cancel his or her concert on a particular day on a particular disturbance. We have already lots and lots of disturbances around. Traffic Snarls, Petrol Problem, skyrocketing prizes... etc etc and the list is endless. What i mean to say is that he or she has to put aside these things once on stage and just go all out to perform. I asked R.Suryaprakash recently about his onstage vibrancy, stamina and his power and how he is able to maintain that for the past nearly 15 years. He told me instantly "I dont think about anything before entering the stage. I go blank on stage and just perform and get out". That is all. I have always been sympathizing with the artistes and i will be the last person to clad BULLY BOSS.
And .... the sentence "If you dispute please justify" is not directed to you sir. it is for Member tmtfan1.
J.Balaji
It is not like that ... i m not trying to be bullying. While i fully sympathize or empathize whatever with the artiste's inability on a particular day to perform .. the audience are at a loss to c this point of his or her inability to perform on a certain day due to his or her own personal or professional problems. I was driving home only that point. Once on stage it is better to forget and leave behind those failures and disappointments and just perform that is it. I was also driving a point that we dont have a method to disseminate or communicate to the audience that we are going to sing badly or perform badly today due to such and such problem. who doesnt have problem these days tell me ? Even for the above concert one septuagenerian came from a very far off place to listen. Do we mean to say he came in helicopter and was dropped off in helipad above the concert venue ? Life is not easy sir. Beyond all this an artiste has to look and perform on that day is what i meant. Despite our best efforts sometimes it fails and it is very difficult to explain to the audience. Only time can tell the difference. More so an artiste's merit is not decided on one good concert it is decided on an average of many such good concerts. That means consistency. This consistency can be achieved only with a better attitude towards the stage, audience and Life in general. An artiste need not cancel his or her concert on a particular day on a particular disturbance. We have already lots and lots of disturbances around. Traffic Snarls, Petrol Problem, skyrocketing prizes... etc etc and the list is endless. What i mean to say is that he or she has to put aside these things once on stage and just go all out to perform. I asked R.Suryaprakash recently about his onstage vibrancy, stamina and his power and how he is able to maintain that for the past nearly 15 years. He told me instantly "I dont think about anything before entering the stage. I go blank on stage and just perform and get out". That is all. I have always been sympathizing with the artistes and i will be the last person to clad BULLY BOSS.
And .... the sentence "If you dispute please justify" is not directed to you sir. it is for Member tmtfan1.
J.Balaji
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ganeshkant Sir,
TO add to what our mridangist (Balaji sir) has stated, kuntaLam is the 61st mELakartA in the asampUrNa mELa paddatti (vEnkatamakin - muttusvAmi dikSitar scheme). In the gOvindAchAryA or sampUrNa mELa paddati, it can be considered as a janya raga of kAntAmaNi (61st mELakartA). The ArOhaNa - avarOhaNa are ArO: s r g M p d S and ava: S n d p M g r s. It is a rAgAnga, shADava sampUrNa and arOhaNa niSAda varja rAga. vEnkaTamakin has composed a gitam, muttusvAmi dIkSitar a kRti and subburAma dIkSitar a sanchAri. For more info on these creations, please refer sangIta sAmpradAya pradarSini.
TO add to what our mridangist (Balaji sir) has stated, kuntaLam is the 61st mELakartA in the asampUrNa mELa paddatti (vEnkatamakin - muttusvAmi dikSitar scheme). In the gOvindAchAryA or sampUrNa mELa paddati, it can be considered as a janya raga of kAntAmaNi (61st mELakartA). The ArOhaNa - avarOhaNa are ArO: s r g M p d S and ava: S n d p M g r s. It is a rAgAnga, shADava sampUrNa and arOhaNa niSAda varja rAga. vEnkaTamakin has composed a gitam, muttusvAmi dIkSitar a kRti and subburAma dIkSitar a sanchAri. For more info on these creations, please refer sangIta sAmpradAya pradarSini.
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