Of Shabashes and Bhales'

gopalk · Post by **gopalk** » 23 Jul 2008, 11:38

With so much of heat over CM/HM and attires of leading CM artistes on holiday, I thought it may be a good idea to inject some humour into this group.

Here is an irreverant, tongue-in-cheek comment on the "rasippu thanmai" of rasikas (us?)

http://vilangudi.googlepages.com/701.mp3

Enjoy.

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 24 Jul 2008, 15:12

I think that well-formed praises like "shabash" and "bale" and "besh" are voluntary, therefore we expect them only from big vidwans. But "aaha", "mmm", "aa" are all involuntary and anyone who is totally awed by the music will naturally say that.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 24 Jul 2008, 21:27

Mildly funny.. though I was distracted a bit by the inaccuracies in the setup of the comedy ( like in sruthi bedam ).

gopalk · Post by **gopalk** » 25 Jul 2008, 11:17

I got some mails asking me who the speaker was - it is Pujyasri Haridhos Giri Swamigal.

thanjavooran · Post by **thanjavooran** » 26 Jul 2008, 10:42

sabhash and balae together. excellent !

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 26 Jul 2008, 20:18

VK,
I thought it was a long drawn yarn on appreciative (?) words in a music concert. I would not have guessed it was a svAmiji who spoke, had Gopalk not mentioned it. To me, discerning though a rasikA can be, he also can appreciate the music he listens to in such a way that these expressions of appreciation are mostly spontaneous expressions of being moved.
Perhaps the svAmi was going to illustrate some point in his discourse by way of this example which we are not privy to...

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 06 Apr 2009, 07:38

I have one orajoopu by MMI-TNK where MMI says "YES!" in one of TNK's replies.

Any other unorthodox phrases you've heard? "samatthu", have you heard any time?

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:20

Semmangudi would say "Accha" to MSG when the latter played some hindustani phrases!

Sathej · Post by **Sathej** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:40

Semmangudi is always well known for such compliments. 'Besh, Sowkhyama iru' to LGJ during the Swarams in Ksheenamai in the Airport concert!

Sathej

Satish · Post by **Satish** » 06 Apr 2009, 21:25

Speaking of Shabash, Bale, and Besh...can someone educate me on the etymology of these words? My cursory probing reveals they originated from ancient Persia (and even Arabia) and I suspect, over the Moghul period, the Carnatic aficionados adopted them (much as the fashionistas adopted "Ciao!" and "Tschuss!"...). If that's anywhere near the mark (and here why I have doubts about it) then what explains the absence of those words of appreciation in Hindustani music circles which is a nearer cousin to Persian/Arab music?

Do these exclamations have Tamil or Sanskrit or other roots? We rarely hear them outside music circles after all.