Mahaswami Sangeethanjali by T.M. KRISHNA

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 05 Apr 2009, 22:44

T.M. krishnas programme was not up to the mark though people went with high expectations. Birana vara in kalyani was abrubtly finished without singing Swarams after the niraval . is it another new way of innovation ?
Laptop kept in front of the artist has become the trend of the day . When HYD brothers used recently in their concert there was so much criticism . now what do we say with such a great artist ?
do they really hv to look in to the books& recite the songs like poems ?

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 06 Apr 2009, 00:12

Saramathi - neraval without swarams is not unheard of - many artistes do it...no one claimed that it is an innovation...as for the laptop, I think it is for the sruthi and not for lyrics....the same is the case for Hyd Bros, as was pointed out in the same thread, I think. He may have had an off-day although Prashant, who is an accomplished artiste himself, has a different view...

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 06 Apr 2009, 08:27

T.M. krishnas concert in spite of certain lapses Varali & Kamboji were superb.we cld visualise Bangaru Kamakshi in front of us fr those who have visited the temple .Sruthi siddham marvellous the sloka composed by SRI.RAMKUMAR was too touchy .

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 06 Apr 2009, 08:51

I am sure you mean 'touching'...

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:26

T.M. krishnas concert in spite of certain lapses Varali & Kamboji were superb.we cld visualise Bangaru Kamakshi in front of us fr those who have visited the temple .Sruthi suddham marvellous the sloka composed by SRI.RAMKUMAR was too touchy .

Arudra · Post by **Arudra** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:28

A very ordinary concert from TMK- may be singing twice on the same day took its tool- there were moments when it was very good but on the whole not a satisfying concert at all- Lot of mistakes in Bhajagovindam that too with the books in front!Many slips in sruthi too which is surprising.Too much of chowkam thru out -Best was the Sriramkumar's composition on Mahaswami which was sung with lot of feeling and a fitting end to the concert.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:34

Duplicate topic at http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... -2009.html

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:32

Quite a lot of conflicting opinions on the concert, including those of the same rasika!

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:50

ya sorry it was typing error. it is touching

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:53

yes u r right. Arudra. two concerts both in the morng & eveng definetely will take a toll in the voice. after hearing excellant concerts of his yesterday it was rather disappointing

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 06 Apr 2009, 13:00

I'm getting confsed - which concert are we talking about? Was there more than the one at Shanmukha Hall? DId both have Kambhoji?

jeyaar · Post by **jeyaar** » 06 Apr 2009, 13:53

The morning chamber concert in a new hall was by invitations.Vijay- the review is for the evening concert at the main hall which was a member's programme.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 06 Apr 2009, 13:56

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 06 Apr 2009, 18:47

Artists will have definitely bad days, not best days... and I am sure still they try to motivate
themselves to sing for the crowd. They know they just cannot afford to look bad.
So I feel better to moderate reviews , show disappointments in a measured way...
not in a criticising way...knowing these people are the best of the singers today.
This is not an advise to anyone just my feeling.

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 07 Apr 2009, 07:59

everyone is aware that the artist hv good & bad days while performing. no one is an expert to critise as if they are best of the singers . it is only their views they are expressing .if one feels disappointed we can say ok .but when 90% of the audience are of the same view what do u say ?

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 07 Apr 2009, 10:27

Saaramathi,

Welcome to the forum. When your very first post in this forum as initiated by you is as above we all know about your motive in joining the forum. Therefore an advise to you, is to build up your credibility amongst us. Read some reviews of Rajeshnat, Bilahari, Bharat, prashant and many more. You are welcome to criticise but back it up with data. ( 90 % of the audience you say - did you do a census !! :rolleyes:).
Otherwise your personal prejudices expose you very easily. (Post 1 & 3 are so different)
Wish you a long stay in this forum. I sincerely hope you do not end up as a single thread wonder

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 07 Apr 2009, 10:57

> single thread wonder

Good phrase cienu... like the one hit wonder.

Saaramathi: We have had many one thread drive by critics before, so our guards are up. Stick around and participate. Best wishes.

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 07 Apr 2009, 19:12

Cienu,

well said.

I think many people probably must have read the famous Sanjay interview sometime back
to a journal. Everyone should read.

Sanjay expressed what goes on in his (artist) mind during a concert, what goes on when
the things donot fall in place (to prasanna ramaswamy, Kaalasuvadu magazine, page 4). It looks
so difficult to - sing live for 3 hours and meet the higher perfromance levels consistenly, and
Everytime beat the previous time kamboji or something else ...etc.

May be the concert is not to someone's liking. But unnecessary controversy about
innovation , reading poems, laptop ... Hope this doesnot become another controversial thread..

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 07 Apr 2009, 19:32

BTW, Sri Krishna did not use a laptop on the stage. He has a Bose SoundDock which he keeps in front of him to play the tambura shruti. I was present near the stage right after the concert and can categorically confirm that there was no laptop there.

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 07 Apr 2009, 19:44

cienu wrote:Saaramathi,
Therefore an advise to you, is to build up your credibility amongst us.

Another way is to develop a acerbic style like subbudu laced with humor (of course at the expense of some one else). You may think this is hard, but its not - after all we are only making fun of someone else, something we probably do all the time. Your motive should be obvious that you are the defender/guardian/protector of all that is traditional, classical and pure. This will help you easily identify punching bags among artists.

Once you got all this, you can let loose with style and panache, and you will find fans, fame, cheers and encouragement - amongst the right circles too. Yes, one can certainly be nasty, obnoxious, and prejudicial here - as long as you are on the "right side" (and you need data to show that). This is one of the things that makes cm forums "special" and best of 'em all

Arun

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 07 Apr 2009, 20:14

Arun

I know whom you are referring to !

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 07 Apr 2009, 20:25

cienu,

That was not necessarily at any single person. I have found this to be generally true in CM world (right from subbudu, which means earlier too). Harsh reviews are generally relished ...... as long as it is not directed at someone we like and admire

. No one likes their ivory towers to be shot at. Only our neighbor's

Arun

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 08 Apr 2009, 09:55

i wldnt like anyone to advise me as how i should build up my creditabilty
i am in this field fr more than 35years ,i know where i stand. pl always discuss only abt the concerts not abt the members who hv ever right to voice their opinion

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 08 Apr 2009, 11:42

Saaramathi, I think you misunderstood ( may be ). No one is questioning your real life credibility ( how can we? ). In this on line social circle, it takes a while and many posts to get used to each other and know each other, for good or bad. That is all.

Talking of limiting the conversation strictly to reviews, in all seriousness, how did you figure that 90% of the audience held the same view as yours?

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:27

While I wouldn't advise you about credibility, I would suggest you write in proper English , rather than SMS Engilsh. It is much easier to read.

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:38

cienu wrote:Arun

I know whom you are referring to !

I can guess too.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:42

cienu wrote:Arun

I know whom you are referring to !

I know too, but I am keeping 'mau'nam on the subject

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 08 Apr 2009, 12:44

Prashant,

rajeevsid · Post by **rajeevsid** » 08 Apr 2009, 17:55

Is it too lame if I say that I know too now

!!!

Saaramathi · Post by **Saaramathi** » 10 Apr 2009, 09:03

while coming out of the concert this is the remark that most of them were saying as most disappointing concert . even in the audience there were comments like this only .
someone has asked wther i counted the numbers?it sounds very ------.on the whole we say majority of the people that doesnt mean that we have to count the numbers& make exact calculation & give.
please dont focus on bringing down somebody because you want to
let us all try to think on a higher level