25th Wedding Anniversary Song lists

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 24 Apr 2009, 21:52

Sourcing the wisdom of the rasikas.org community...

Our cousin and his wife are celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary soon. As a return gift to the guests, we are planning a double CD gift, one with Carnatic music and another with a medley of film songs, preferably from 1984. Yours truly is in charge of coming up with the song list and decent recordings of the same.

The said cousin is a huge fan of Sanjay, Sudha, Sikkil Gurucharan and Santhanam. (Don't ask me why:):)

I must confess, being from Kerala, my Tamizh is so-so and the songs that I think are very romantic end up being, you know, the viraha type and vice-versa:) Don't want to commit such a faux pas at this happy function, since there are some really knowledgeable people, both in Tamil and music , attending. So you get my dilemma:)

My starting list for CM CD...
Chandiran Oliyil Avalai Kanden - Sanjay
Asai Mugam marandupoche - Sudha
Suttum vizhi sudar thaan kannamma- Santhanam
More Ideas??

Film Medley CD..preferably Tamil/hindi songs from 1984.....
Ideas??

rshankar, I am definitely going to use some suggestions from the list you put forth in the thread on Vijay's upcoming wedding. I started a new thread since I specifically need some Carnatic songs too.

Thanks in advance,

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 24 Apr 2009, 22:12

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 24 Apr 2009, 22:19

Coolkarnij,
Unfortunately this is one of those instances where language limitation is brought into sharp focus.

Though I follow swalpa swalpa kannada:)

I am sure there are some exquisitely romantic padams/javalis, but mostly I think in Telugu.

Thanks

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 24 Apr 2009, 23:15

Rajeeram, I will have to look up some songs I heard sometime ago that I think will work for you, but in the meantime, avoid 'sakhi! prANa sakhuDu' like the plague for this purpose!!

Most padams and jAvaLIs, even those in tamizh would not be appropriate, but I think 'teruvil vArAnO' would be a very nice one.

Another thought - after 25 years, it would be a great idea to include 'calO ik bAr phir sE ajnabI ban jAyE hum dOnO', and of course, you should not forget this one - 'O mErE zOharzabIn tujhE mAlUm nahIn, tU abhi tak hO hasIn aur mein javAn - tujhpE kurbAn mEri jAn'

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 24 Apr 2009, 23:21

Thanks rshankar. I will look that song up. In the meanwhile, can you kindly please ratify the 3 I have listed as safe/appropriate choices? Thanks again.

Chandiran Oliyil Avalai Kanden - Sanjay
Asai Mugam marandupoche - Sudha
Suttum vizhi sudar thaan kannamma- Santhanam

Chalo Ek Bar, that is a lovely melody indeed, I remember hearing this a lot on the Chitrahaars on Doordarshan.

O mErE zOharzabIn is such a classic...Thanks much for the suggestions.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 24 Apr 2009, 23:28

Rajeeram: Those look good!

A good CM based tamizh film song to add would be 'gangai karai tOTTam'. You could possibly try 'nAn pEsa ninaittadellAm nI pEsa vENDum'

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 25 Apr 2009, 02:35

I like rshankar CM based tamizh film song 'gangai karai tOTTam' and 'nAn pEsa ninaittadellAm nI pEsa vENDum'.

How about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM7VR9JS-BA

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 25 Apr 2009, 04:41

rajeeram,
All the best to your cousin couple for their silver and all the way to gold and more!

Your bArati songs are perfect. unaiyE rati enRu ninaikkiREnaDi too. Another one of his is tIrtak karaiyinilE teRku mUlaiyil SeNbagat tOTTattilE, pArtirundAl varuvEn veNNilAvilE--it would elicit laughs--a bit of viraham, but of the kind which would lead to some kidding around. The moon takes me to the film song: AjA sanam madhur cAndnI me (chOri chOri?) O sanam! mai tujhE pukArUn sanam sanam, mai tErE liyE hUn tEri kasam (sanam), jab jab zulfEn tEri, mAng ke sAth tumhArA maine mAng liyA sansAr (from nayA daur?). I bet others have a dozens for you to choose from!

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 25 Apr 2009, 06:00

arasi,
Thank you for those suggestions. I must say I was waiting for your post:)

I am in the silent majority that enjoys, unable to reciprocate, the extempore tamil poetry that you, CML, Punarvasu etc. delight us with.

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 25 Apr 2009, 06:05

VKRaman,
Thanks for that simply haunting tune. Everyone can use the essence of that first line. The songs of "Waqt" are gems indeed.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 25 Apr 2009, 12:04

unnazhagaikkana iru kangal podhde, unathezhilai, by MKT BHAGAVATHAR.
VADHANAME CHANDRA BIMBAMO(MKT ), UNNAI KAN THEDUTHE URANGAMALE.. GOBILALITHA.

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 27 Apr 2009, 19:19

Thank you gobilalithaji for your suggestions.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 27 Apr 2009, 19:52

Rajeeram,

I am not sure if this will work or not, but take a look at a CD of Smt. Sudha Raghunathan's called tUdu SellAyO. Some of those may work. (I like one of them in particular - a composition in kAmbhOji that goes 'enda vidamAgilum nanda mukundanai inda vazhi varum vagai pAraDI')

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 27 Apr 2009, 22:21

When you first asked about this, I thought of the song 'kaNmaNiyE sollaDI' ( saranga ) since it starts off promisingly along the lines of what Ravi is thinking. But I am not sure about the rest of the lyrics. Can someone else comment on the suitability? It is a small song and as sung by Sanjay in Saranga, is a trest. I also see references to another song by the same starting words in kApi. I do not know if it is the same song or a different one.

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 28 Apr 2009, 08:07

Thanks VK,
I think they are the same song. Smt Saroja Ramanujam makes a reference to this here.

http://sarojaramanujam.sulekha.com/blog ... asikas.htm

Next was the song of Mazavai Chidambara Bharathi, 'kanmaniye solladi' and TNS sang this in Kapi to the surprise of those who have heard this in saranga from GNB. But the kapi seemed to be the original raga and it is beautifully suited to the mood of the song and it was a new and exhilerating experience to hear TNS singing it., especially in the end when he sang the words 'kanmaiye' in different bhavas.

The lyrics of Kanmaniye solladi, thanks to Lakshmanji.

kaNmaNiyE sollaDi. rAgA: hindustAnikApi. dEshAdi tALA.

P: kaNmaNiyE sollaDi enran kaNmaNiyE sollaDi
A: kamala daLa nayana ramaNaniDattil enran
C1: Aru talai irundum Aru talai sollAmal
mIru maiyarkkuL sikki vADum en duraikkiyendan
2: Ayamum enakkuTra tAyarum pazhi solla
vEruyirkkumen seyalE ariyum enran
3: mazhavai cidambaram sol manadirkkurittaruLum
mazhaiyotta karum kuzhal vaLLi maNALan enran

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 28 Apr 2009, 08:10

Also I am looking for "Annalum Nokkinan Avalum Nokkinal" from Kamba Ramayanam. I used to have this lovely HamirKalyani version by TNS on a tape recording, which I have been searching for in vain. Will be very grateful if anyone has this and can kindly upload.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 28 Apr 2009, 08:30

rajeeram, yes that is the one. I did not know it was known/famous as a GNB uruppadi. It makes sense now for Sanjay to pluck this out for his CD since he is a big GNB fan.

If you choose it, it will be for the music. On the lyrics, it is hard to tell what to make of it. But in general it is in the romance/viraha category but in a soft way.

Sanjay's words differ somewhat on the details from what Laksman provided. ( also, Sanjay sings to half eduppu as opposed to desAdi eduppu )

Here is what Sanjay sings.

kaNmaNiyE sollaDi kamalanayana ramaNaniDam ( so far quite generic and neutral in meaning. Then what sounds like two charanams or one anupallavi and one charanam )

Aru talai irundum Arudal sollAmal ( I always get a chukle out of this for the clever play on words )
nILu mayyalil sikki suzhalum en duraikku ( kaNmaniyE sollaDi ) ( whatever this means! here is where some danger may lurk with respect to choosing the song for your purpose

)

mazhavai cidambaram sol manadirkkurittaruLum
madhiyotta karum kuzhal vaLLi maNALanukku

( I do not understand the relevance of the above lines to the over all theme of the song, if any. It is basically an attempt to insert his mudra into the song, as far as I can tell )

So except for the second line of the first charanam, it is quite harmless. I will let others opine on if that second line is trouble or not

If lyrics are cleared, then evaluate it if you like the melody and laya of the song. It can be a filler or a transition song.

Sanjay's version is recorded and mixed well and sung very well by him along with quite an enthsiastic display by mridangam and Kanjira. ( this recording deserves a good pair of headphones to enjoy the full effect of the rhythm accompaniments, especially that entry point at the tail end of the first line in the beginning of the song ).

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 28 Apr 2009, 08:57

VK,
I am afraid I am not for this song though I think the sArangA version you speak about is very appealing. The woman is pining for her mate in this song. On this occasion, the silver anniversary couple are going to be together, surrounded by family and friends wishing them continued happiness. They would kid around a bit too. Unless there is a connecting story in their lives when they had to wait for sometime to be reunited, and the song is sung at the appropriate moment of some recollection of this, the virah, viraha, viraham (language is too much with us these days:)) mood in this song makes it somewhat unsuitable. I would rather go for 'attAn, ennatAn' kind of songs which would elicit 'Ahs and oohs'. Isn't the woman addressing her friend as kaNmaNi here, asking her to 'go tell' (off?) the one who has six heads but no sense in any of them?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 28 Apr 2009, 09:11

rajeeram,
I did find 'aNNalum nOkkinAn' verse. You can skip the next and continue singing another verse. It si complete then:

eNNa aru nalattinAL iNaiyaL ninRuzhi
kaNNoDu kaNNiNai kavvi, onRai onRU
uNNavum, nilai peRAdu uNarvum onRiDa,
aNNalum nOkkinAn, avaLum nOKkinAL

parugiya nOkku enum pASattAl piNittu,
oruvarai oruvar tam uLLam IRttalAl,
vari Silai aNNalum, vAT kaN nangaiyum,
iruvarum mARip pukku idayam eidinAr!

How romantic!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 28 Apr 2009, 12:30

Arasi. That kaNmaniyE song can be salvaged with a simple recalibration of that second line of the first charanam ( I am on that bandwagon today ).

"nILu mayyalil sikki suzhalum en duraikku " is actually a modern metaphor for chiding her loved one of spending too much time at work!!

"nILu vElayil sikki suzhalum en duraikku"

Now it fits

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 28 Apr 2009, 20:13

Thanks Arasi, that song is evocative indeed. And TNS sings it phenomenally in HamirKalyani, which I think is utmost suited for this song. Sigh...if only I could locate that recording....

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 28 Apr 2009, 20:18

:-) VK. Or if there is an apt Tamil word for finance that can go there, the "sikki suzhalum" can take a whole new meaning:-)

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 28 Apr 2009, 20:32

VK,
Now you have made it more suitable.
Another way to put it: mILA vElaiyil Sikki Suzhalum en duraikku. Something close to home, perhaps

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 28 Apr 2009, 20:49

Rajeeram,

I thought of 'ik pyAr kA nagmA hai' as an appropriate number (especially because of the refrain, 'zindagi aur kuch bhI nahIn, tEri mEri kahAnI hai'), but when I listened to it, the mood of the music did not seem to very appropos. What do you think?

Some other lovely songs include the Mukesh-Lata duet, 'dil lUTnEvAlE jAdUgar ab maine tujhE pehcAn liyA', and the evergreen Smt MSS-Sri GNB duet - 'prEmayil yAvum marandOmE' (SakuntaLa).
PS: How about 'kAlangaLil avaL vasantam'?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 28 Apr 2009, 21:12

Ravi,
prEmaiyil yAvum maRandomE is tops. irubattu aindANdu ODiyum, prEmaiyil...

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 28 Apr 2009, 21:31

Arasi, along those lines, the one Smt. Kamala danced to - 'nAn unai ninaikAda nEramuNDO? nAyakan en vAzhvil nI anrO!' would also qualify!

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 29 Apr 2009, 23:43

rshankar, Thanks much again. Ek Pyar ka Nagma Hai is such a classic. I had to look it up on youtube and seeing the picturization, I agree it's not an appropriate song, especially the second part where the mood really turns dark.

MSS-GNB duet is a great suggestion.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 30 Apr 2009, 00:07

Rajeeram - you are welcome - I am actually having lots of fun!

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 30 Apr 2009, 02:39

Oh yes, this mix CD thing certainly has been a mood-altering activity for me too:-)

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Apr 2009, 07:54

Good for you and for us too!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 30 Apr 2009, 08:44

Rajeeram - thought of a couple more - you may already have it - 'bahArOn phUl barsAO, mErA mehbUb AyA hai', 'DhUNDO DhUNDO rE sAjnA DhUNDO rE sAjnA mOrE kAn kA bAlA'

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Apr 2009, 09:03

Ravi,
Now you are getting into post-celebration sing-song

Rajeeram,
Give our best wishes to the 'young' couple for a 'forever young' love and do fill us in on the event. Taking a raincheck for Laddoos (or any other miTHAyi ) until we all meet

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 30 Apr 2009, 22:01

Thank you rshankar. One of the songs I found through my youtube wanderings is the funny and catchy "Sundari neeyum sundaran njanum" from Michael Madana Kamarajan:)

Thanks Arasi for the wishes. Anytime you are in the Philly area, give me a holler. Not only laddoos, but will treat you to the finest chakkapradhaman:)

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 30 Apr 2009, 22:05

Rajeeram - in your wanderings, did you come across 'pAlakkADu pakkatilE oru appAvi rAjA' (I think it was picturized on Sivaji and Padmini)?

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 01 May 2009, 18:57

No, rshankar, have not heard of that song, but it seems like a song I might enjoy:-)

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 01 May 2009, 19:30

Rajeeram,

Here are some more thoughts that came to my mind:

In the album SivA vishNu stOtram, the Bombay Sisters render a slOkam attributed to hanumAn where he describes rAma and sIta as the 'trilokya gruha dampati' - it starts with 'ayOdhyA pura nEtAram, mithilA pura nAyikAm, rAghavANAm alankAram, vaidEhAnAm alankriya' - could be a nice one to include in the CD...

Some other movie songs - candan sA badan; Eri karaiyin mElE pOravaLE peN mayilE; cittiram pESudaDI yendan cindai mayangudaDI; vAnil muzhu madiyai kaNDEn vanattil oru peNNai kaNDEn; pU onru kaNDEn peN angu illai yEn enru nAn solla vENDumO;

And of course, you must have the mahAkavi's 'kATRu veLiyiDai kaNNammA ninran kAdalai eNNi kazhikkinrEn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkJVMBedbBE) - he makes a most passionate statement there - "you are the light (jyOtiyE) that comes into being (vaLar) from my very life force (uyir tIyinilE), you are my (endan) thoughts (cintanaiyE), nay, my (endan) very mind/heart itself(cittamE)"!

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 01 May 2009, 20:19

rshankar, you are a veritable encyclopedia of Tamil/Hindi songs!

The Bombay Sisters slokam seems very interesting, I will definitely check it out.

Thanks for the other recommendations. I am not that familiar with old Tamil songs. There is such poetry in these songs!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 May 2009, 20:25

Erik karai mElE pORavaLE peN mayilE!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 01 May 2009, 21:25

Rajeeram - here's another - a pledge of eternal love - 'sau sAl pehlE mujhE tumsE pyAr thA, Aj bhi hai, aur kal bhI rahEgA' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cpbfr94 ... re=related

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 02 May 2009, 06:49

jawaniyae mast mast bin piye, a foot tapping melody by Mohd Rafi and ASHA FROM OP Nayyar's Tumsa nahin dekha and the title song on everybody's lips on a boat to Elephanta caves in 1956 , myself surronded by by beautiful young couples and lovers,and myself in my twenties, a bachelor looking enviously at them. and a song composed years later for envious bachelors by OPN'LAKHON HAI DILWALA, AUR KOYI NAHI MILTA'. REMINISCENSES 50 YEARS LATER. GOBILALITHA

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 May 2009, 07:52

Then Lalitha appeared before you to be the light of your life

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 02 May 2009, 10:59

. Happily so.Of course it was not a case of going round the trees singing love songs wearing fancy dresses,. A simple orthodox marriage,WITNESSED BY 64 CRORE DEVARS. GOBILALITHA