Kalpakam Swaminathan, Nada Inbam

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 09 Oct 2007, 10:05

Kalpakam Swaminathan (Veena) - S.R. Padmavati (Veena) - Tanjavur Kumar (Mrudangam)

Raga Sudha Hall, Nada Inbam.
7th October 2007. 6 pm

varNam - pantuvarALi - aTa tALam - Ponnaiah Pillai
srI jAlantara - gambIra nATTai - Adi
vara nArada - vijaya srI - Adi - T (short sketch)
daNDAyudapANim - Ananda bhairavi - rUpakam - MD (RS)
piravA varam - latAngi - Adi - PS (R - SRP)
manasu vishaya - nATTaikuranji - Adi - T (RS)
karuNAnidiyE thAyE - bauLi - misra cApu - PS
sadAsrayE abhayAmbikE - shanmukhapriyA - rUpakam - MD (RT)
sankari nIvE - bEgaDA
tanI
padam in sahAnA - composition of Chinnaswami
rAgamAlikA piece in 9 ragams.

Kalpakam mami played a nice concert. All the pieces were beautifully rendered. The rare varNam was good to hear. The AlApanais of vijayasrI, Anandabhairavi, nATTaikuranji and shanmukhapriyA were all beautiful. daNDAyudapANim and manasu vishya were amazingly rendered with interesting rounds of svarams. The shanmukhapriyA tAnam was short and sweet.

Smt Padmavati's latAngi AlApanai was nice as well. Though mAmi had some little hitches with her vINa, the music was divine as usual.

I had to leave during the shanmukhapriyA piece.

bharath

Svaapana · Post by **Svaapana** » 11 Oct 2007, 05:27

Nice song list. Has anyone recorded the concert. Love to listen, specially to the MD krithi

jayachAmarAja · Post by **jayachAmarAja** » 05 Apr 2009, 21:39

Here is part of the video recording from that concert. Will upload the entire audio shortly.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r4z8gs
http://rapidshare.com/files/217662246/0 ... apANim.avi

Regards.

vidya · Post by **vidya** » 05 Apr 2009, 23:37

Sridhar,
Thanks for sharing this recording. I particularly enjoyed the absence of the violin!

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 06 Apr 2009, 07:44

sadAsrayE abhayAmbikE - shanmukhapriyA - rUpakam - MD (RT)

Shouldn't this be cAmaram? :/

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 06 Apr 2009, 09:09

srikant1987 wrote:
sadAsrayE abhayAmbikE - shanmukhapriyA - rUpakam - MD (RT)
Shouldn't this be cAmaram? :/

You are absolutely correct.

If you ask Kalpakam mami, she would tell you what the difference is. She has mentioned that this distinction is being slowly lost as Chamaram is being treated as Shanmukhapriya and unacceptable prayogas are used in Deekshithar's krithis.

Kalpakam mami is a treasurehouse of such finicky details in Carnatic Music. If these are not documented, we would then lose the special charm of Deekshithar's music.

Similar differences in prayogas exist between Kasiramakriya and Kamavardhani.

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 06 Apr 2009, 10:57

harimau wrote:
srikant1987 wrote:
sadAsrayE abhayAmbikE - shanmukhapriyA - rUpakam - MD (RT)
Shouldn't this be cAmaram? :/
You are absolutely correct.

If you ask Kalpakam mami, she would tell you what the difference is. She has mentioned that this distinction is being slowly lost as Chamaram is being treated as Shanmukhapriya and unacceptable prayogas are used in Deekshithar's krithis.

Kalpakam mami is a treasurehouse of such finicky details in Carnatic Music. If these are not documented, we would then lose the special charm of Deekshithar's music.

Similar differences in prayogas exist between Kasiramakriya and Kamavardhani.

harimau,

could you elaborate differences between Shanmukhapriya and Chamara?

-Ramakriya

jayachAmarAja · Post by **jayachAmarAja** » 06 Apr 2009, 13:24

vidya wrote:I particularly enjoyed the absence of the violin!

I too prefer the absence of violin accompaniment for vInA.

While thinking of posting this concert (which i will shortly do), i almost felt the possessiveness that people say Subbarama Dikshitar had when approached by Chinnaswami Mudaliar to work on the SSP ! On the one hand, sharing it would bring joy to a lot of [very nice] people.. On the other, if if didn't, i would be part of a select few that have the most priceless recording of sadAshrayE ever. If you think this is an exaggeration, please hear the recording here here !! how fortunate people like Ramakrishnan, Smt Sivasree Gopalakrishnan, Smt. Vasumathi Desikan etc. must be to learn from her ! My salutations to these people, and *sincere* thanks to Bharath for continuing to update us regularly with lists of mami's concerts, and for the offers from some of you to help with the digitization.

BTW, first half [upto sadAshrayE, no tagging done] of the concert is available here.

Concluding part of concert @ http://rapidshare.com/files/219501203/N ... _Part2.zip

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 06 Apr 2009, 18:58

ramakriya wrote:
harimau wrote:
srikant1987 wrote:
Shouldn't this be cAmaram? :/
You are absolutely correct.

If you ask Kalpakam mami, she would tell you what the difference is. She has mentioned that this distinction is being slowly lost as Chamaram is being treated as Shanmukhapriya and unacceptable prayogas are used in Deekshithar's krithis.

Kalpakam mami is a treasurehouse of such finicky details in Carnatic Music. If these are not documented, we would then lose the special charm of Deekshithar's music.

Similar differences in prayogas exist between Kasiramakriya and Kamavardhani.
harimau,

could you elaborate differences between Shanmukhapriya and Chamara?

-Ramakriya

At some other time. Kalpakam mami mentioned it in a conversation which I don't completely remember now so I don't want to pass on incorrect information.

Perhaps, Bharath can contact mami and ask her and post the information.

vainika · Post by **vainika** » 06 Apr 2009, 22:46

Even though chAmara has the same mUrChana as ShaNmukhapriyA (s r2 g2 m2 p d1 n2 s') per Subburama Dikshitar, one encounters prayOgas such as sgrgmp, pds', dnds', and s'r'g's'. sadAshrayE showcases many of these, while siddhivinAyakam's chAmara has become homogenized with shaNmukhapriyA, for most part.

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 06 Apr 2009, 22:56

Well, there are some cases where the phrases may or may not differ, but the mood is just about the same. cAmara -- at least siddhi vinAyakam -- has a different mood from Shanmukhapriya songs like marivEre dikkevarayya. It's a much "calmer", rAgam.

davalangi · Post by **davalangi** » 07 Apr 2009, 00:27

vainika wrote:Even though chAmara has the same mUrChana as ShaNmukhapriyA (s r2 g2 m2 p d1 n2 s') per Subburama Dikshitar, one encounters prayOgas such as sgrgmp, pds', dnds', and s'r'g's'. sadAshrayE showcases many of these, while siddhivinAyakam's chAmara has become homogenized with shaNmukhapriyA, for most part.

So the more popular (mainstream) the krithi, the more homogenized it is with the corresponding krama sampurna mela (or the mela in the sampurna mela paddhati)

- the process of "tyagarajafication" of MD krithis, as one of my knowledgeable friends put it humorously.

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 07 Apr 2009, 07:04

davalangi wrote:So the more popular (mainstream) the krithi, the more homogenized it is with the corresponding krama sampurna mela (or the mela in the sampurna mela paddhati) - the process of "tyagarajafication" of MD krithis, as one of my knowledgeable friends put it humorously.

Indeed. So if you became a more "popular(mainstream)" poster in rasikas you might have to change your handle to dhavalambhari

. Who knows what special quirks might disappear with it ?!

On a side note, "tyagarajafication" seems to take place even in the absence of an explicit tyagaraja kriti in the sampoorna mEla as in shanmukh...?! Glory be to tyagaraja !

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vainika wrote: prayOgas such as sgrgmp, pds'

One encounters such prayOgas in much maligned siddhivinakayam too, also such as in "raudra bhava sahitam daasa jana...". I am intrigued by the s'r'g's' phrase.

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 07 Apr 2009, 07:17

Uday_Shankar wrote: Indeed. So if you became a more "popular(mainstream)" poster in rasikas you might have to change your handle to dhavalambhari .

LOL!!

davalangi · Post by **davalangi** » 07 Apr 2009, 07:33

Uday - LOL!! By the way, I have received flak for the davalangi handle itself - apparently, the correct id should be davalanga (though K.V.Srinivasa Iyengar would have probably agreed with me, I am told

You forgot "vaddanevaru" in Shanmukhapriya (it is not a spurious krithi, is it?)

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 07 Apr 2009, 09:34

davalangi wrote:apparently, the correct id should be davalanga

Hmmm...I just found out that MD sings "dhavalanga shriyam dehi". So they were right, it's all black and "white".

If it were upto me, I would end the controversy by renaming it dhavalagiri after my favorite mountain in the Himalayas (what an awesome sight)

.

As for Shri H V Srinivasa Iyengar, why don't they make such savant-pranksters anymore ?

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 07 Apr 2009, 10:58

Uday my second most favourite mountain as well - after Nanda Devi - it is indeed an awesome sight from Kalopani on the Annapurna circuit - you can practically see it shoot 5 KMs striaght up the ground from there! I am almost as passionate about the Himalayas as music!

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 07 Apr 2009, 11:20

vijay
Actually I am more passionate about the environment than music. If all of civilization were to disappear, humans would still resurrect language, culture, literature, music, etc.. eventually in some form or fashion. But when the tiger goes extinct, it's gone forever. When a river disappears in a red swirl of industrial effluents it's gone forever. When the glaciers disappear (Gangotri has receded 4 KM in the last 50 years) the soul of the Himalayas will be gone forever. Under those circumstances, what would be the point of singing "Himadri Sute" or "Badari vana mula" ?

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 07 Apr 2009, 13:17

davalangi wrote:Uday - LOL!! By the way, I have received flak for the davalangi handle itself - apparently, the correct id should be davalanga (though K.V.Srinivasa Iyengar would have probably agreed with me, I am told

You forgot "vaddanevaru" in Shanmukhapriya (it is not a spurious krithi, is it?)

Never read anything about vaddanevaru being spurious.

And of course, you should be dhavaLAnga

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 07 Apr 2009, 20:01

Thyagarajification, or rather Govind-ification of the mEla krthis of MD has been happening for a long, long time...

Several students of the hoary erstwhile Central college of Carnatic music have been taught krtis in the cognate sampurna melas, and sing them as such..prefaced by an Alapana in sarasangi or SadvidhamArgini or nAgAnandini..

Also some of the Schools of MD's lineage, [like the one from Rossogolla land,] don't just Sampoornafy the raga, but thyAgarajafy the krthi further by employing several sangatis in the song...

Dhavalanga is the word employed by the dIkSita, but the raga may have been an -angi. MD has truncated other rAga names.. vide jIvantI for jIvantika..

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 07 Apr 2009, 22:15

Here it is, Dhavalagiri. Much more awesome and majestic than highly contrived and stylized creations of the human brain like dhavalangi/dhavalanga/dhavalambhari. Music is a distraction, almost a taint, in front of such beauty.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 07 Apr 2009, 22:18

IIRC In school I have known this mountain as dhaulagiri.How it became Dhavalagiri

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 07 Apr 2009, 22:19

I'm using the correct Sanskritized spelling dhavalagiri

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vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 08 Apr 2009, 00:29

My ideal house to live is with a mountain view ( preferably snow-capped ) on one side and a sea view on the other. The spectacular photo that Uday shared of dhavalagiri brought back all that imagery.

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 08 Apr 2009, 00:52

Tacoma ?

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 08 Apr 2009, 01:15

keerthi wrote: Dhavalanga is the word employed by the dIkSita, but the raga may have been an -angi. MD has truncated other rAga names.. vide jIvantI for jIvantika..

Well, not in this case. Muddu Venkatamakhi uses the name dhavaLAnga in his appendix to CDP.

The shlokas read

"dhavalAngO nAmadESI kASIrAmakriyA tatha ...."

"ArOhE dhavalAngastu nivarjyaH sArvakAlikaH .."

-Ramakriya

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 08 Apr 2009, 01:34

Yes, Tacoma would definitely qualify and so will probably some places in the California coastline from SF to LA. ( not that I have lived for any length of time in my ideal environment, in fact the opposite, mostly in flatlands and prairies). I do not know much about the geography of Kerala but are there such locales there?

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 09 Apr 2009, 00:37

vasanthakokilam wrote:My ideal house to live is with a mountain view ( preferably snow-capped ) on one side and a sea view on the other. The spectacular photo that Uday shared of dhavalagiri brought back all that imagery.

VK, you are welcome to Boulder, CO. You will get one (Mountain) out of the two. If u go to CA coast, u will get both but with the snow, I guess.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 09 Apr 2009, 00:55

Thanks Uday! I think this is from Sarangkoat, near Pokhara? I took a photo practically from the base of the mountain at Kalopani - it was a mid-boggling sight. But for one I don't know to upload. For another, it is not half as pretty as yours with flowers and all...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 09 Apr 2009, 04:37

Vijay,
Pokhara,
How beautiful!

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 09 Apr 2009, 05:25

vasanthakokilam wrote:My ideal house to live is with a mountain view ( preferably snow-capped ) on one side and a sea view on the other. The spectacular photo that Uday shared of dhavalagiri brought back all that imagery.

You will get such a view in Kerala without snow in the mountains. You will get snow filled mountain view in Nevada, but no ocean or sea nearby.

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 09 Apr 2009, 07:43

Ok VK,
Geography is a passion for me. So here goes...among places where you'll find snowcapped (i.e., with a permanent or seasonal cap of snow) mountains on one side and the ocean on the other:

1) Pacific northwest of North America all the way from Oregon (Mt. Hood) along the Washington, British Columbia, Yukon terrotory, Alaska coast.
2) Southern Island of New Zealand
3) Northwest Scotland
4) Coast of Norway (famous: spitzbergen)
5) South eastern coast of Chile, tierra del fuego (famous: fitz roy)
6) Mediterranean coast of Turkey
7) Southern coast of Spain (near Grenada, Malaga, etc..)
8) Sicily, Corsica, Sardinia
9) Hawaii (Mauna Kea, Mauna Loa have seasonal snows)
10) If you include a view of the Caspian sea as a view of the "sea", then there may be places in between the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea in former soviet republic Georgia
11) Japan, near Mt. Fuji
12) Southern Peru, Arequipa. El Misti and Chachani have seasonal snows and it is very near the coast.

What's interesting in the above list is that items 1,2,3,4,5 are geographically similar regions classified together - they are all served by warm ocean currents, have fjorded or islanded coasts.

vijay,
I have a confession. That picture of Dhaulagiri was off the internet (it's the southern view, so either from Poon Hill or gorepani I suppose). I have only seen Dhaulagiri from a plane and the Annapurna circuit is always on the cards but have to wait till my daughter is a couple years older, although I am intimately familiar with the region as well as the mountain's layout via reading. We have trekked in other areas of the Himalayas, most of all in Solu/Khumbu - gaped at the awesome lhotse-nuptse wall with big E jutting its head behind, trekked right up to the foot of ChoOyu/Gyachungkang along the Ngojumba glacier as well as the top of Gokyo (alas clouds, no views of big E) and more recently to Sandakphu near Kangchenjunga. An illustrious international supremo of Carnatic music festivals has been making plans since 2007 to do the Annapurna circuit with us. Let us see if it materialized this fall (if our daughter allows us). You're welcome to join us. It will be a Carnatic-Mountains nexus.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 09 Apr 2009, 08:15

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 09 Apr 2009, 11:57

Oh my, Thanks Uday for that expansive word wide list. I have been to a few spots along the pacific northwest and I will have to add atleast a few of the other ones to my list of places to visit. Thanks ksrimech and vk raman. I still remember the awesome train trip I took from Denver to Salt Lake City. I will check out Kerala geography more as well ( sans snow of course ).

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 09 Apr 2009, 13:18

Great to know about your other passion, Uday .

Unfortunately while I enjoy seeing the wonderful pictures, my fear of heights prevents me from attempting to set foot on even the smallest of hills !

jayachAmarAja · Post by **jayachAmarAja** » 25 Apr 2009, 11:46

Sometime back, I had uploaded audio files @

http://rapidshare.com/files/217988798/N ... _Part1.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/219501203/N ... _Part2.zip

I have since added video links of the entire concert to both rapidshare as well as sendspace.

Rapidshare links are @ http://rapidshare.com/users/9N1TY2
and are individual avi files

sendspace links are below.. all 5 parts have to be downloaded in order to extract the files if using sendspace..

File 1:
File Name: NaadaInbam_7Oct2007.part5.rar
File Size: 63 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/guvdyk

File 2:
File Name: NaadaInbam_7Oct2007.part4.rar
File Size: 286 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tz1al3

File 3:
File Name: NaadaInbam_7Oct2007.part3.rar
File Size: 286 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/uwsvaq

File 4:
File Name: NaadaInbam_7Oct2007.part2.rar
File Size: 286 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/lsyvro

File 5:
File Name: NaadaInbam_7Oct2007.part1.rar
File Size: 286 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5kkbje