Hamsadhwani

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 25 Apr 2009, 04:20

Just felt like rambling a bit about Hamsadhwani

http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2009/04 ... sa-dhwani/

-Ramakriya

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 25 Apr 2009, 05:36

With some many hamsas in the water and quacking, I started getting the smell of fish. Hamsdwani does not smell like fish, whatsoever.

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 25 Apr 2009, 06:20

Nice blog entry, ramakriya. That BMK hamsadhwani is very experimental!
Here's my ultimate favourite (MDR-TNK-VR; vAthApi with R, S):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pov7ik
I have always been fascinated by MDR's hamsadhwani because of the way he ends several of his phrases (especially evident in this alapanai) with a distinctly kEdAram-ish S R,,,, GRS,,,. The first few times I heard this usage I was rather perplexed, but now I love it.

Another favourite (TNK-Viji):
http://sangeethamshare.org/prasad_badar ... dhwani.mp3
A really well developed essay.

knandago2001 · Post by **knandago2001** » 25 Apr 2009, 17:50

Ramakriya: Nice write-up!! Interestingly, Hamsadhwani in HM has an identity that is distinct from Shankara whose origins, however, remain obscure!

Raag Shankara
http://indian-classicalmusic.blogspot.c ... nkara.html
http://www.sawf.org/newedit/edit06252001/musicarts.asp

Smt. Krishna Hanagal singing "kalnaa pare"

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 25 Apr 2009, 19:18

prashant wrote: I'd be very interested to hear a 2-kaLai chaukam krithi in this rAgA.

Try Veena Kuppayyar's song in the KaLahasti pancaratnam - Birana nannu brova.

annapoorne wrote:
Has anybody heard "Nera Mora " a padam in Hamsadhwani?

Neramo rA jAra-cora is a javali attributed to pallavi Doreswamy iyer..

It is sung by Rama Ravi.. There is even a commercial recording..

I am very interested in this composer.. Has anyone else a pATAntara of this song..? Are there renditions by Brinda or her kin..?

vrsh-a · Post by **vrsh-a** » 22 Jun 2009, 09:33

annapoorne wrote:Sri Raghukula of Thyagaraja.

Has anybody heard "Nera Mora " a padam in Hamsadhwani?

I have heard this song....do you know who composed it?

~vrsh-a

vrsh-a · Post by **vrsh-a** » 22 Jun 2009, 09:36

never mind
i just saw the reply above my message

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 06 Jul 2009, 20:58

There is a hindustani alap of Hamsadhwani by Kishori amonkar on Music india online that is very very beautiful.Hamsadhwani in a different perspective.

padmini balaram · Post by **padmini balaram** » 03 Aug 2009, 17:58

where can I get basic lessons in raga--swara and alapana.Suggest sites on the net or where I can get cd's /cassettes.Right now want Mayamalava gowls and hamsadhwani.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Aug 2009, 21:29

Ramakriya,
Just got to see your blog! Very nice! Yes, how did such a nice rAgam got the name of a honking bird's sound! I suppose the word hamsa conjures up images of a beautiful and soft feathered bird of the legends to inspire rAgam names like hamsAnandi and hamsa nAdam too!
Rashid Khan's hamsadhwani is delightful. I find his solid delivery of svarams pleasing.When the bandish is rich with imagery as this particular one, the pleasure is more, mainly for CM listeners who are used to krutis with their weight in meaning.
The avarOhaNam in HM is not SRGPNS but SRGPGRSGPNS according to this clip while the avarOhaNam is the same.??
The film song 'jA tujh se nahin bOlUn kanhaiyA' in ParivAr (?) is very similar to this.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 04 Aug 2009, 06:47

The film song cited above is a marvellous composition of Salil choudry gobilallitha

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Aug 2009, 07:25

Thank you GBL. Wondered who the music director was.

Rasika911 · Post by **Rasika911** » 04 Aug 2009, 11:47

Id love to see non-experimental elaborate hamsadhwani, i know the likes of tmk and j.venketraman have tried it but i have yet to hear one.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 04 Aug 2009, 13:16

sagarnahar · Post by **sagarnahar** » 02 Sep 2009, 12:21

jaa tose nahi bolu kanhaiya .. film Parivar is also based on raag hamsadhwani..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRCGmnDfspo

Ustaad Rashid Khan sahab's composition in Raag Hamsdhwani

lagi lagana pati sakhi sang... http://parulchaandpukhraajka.blogspot.c ... -post.html

i think tum bin jeewan kaisa jeewan- ( manna dey- Bawarchi) is also Hamsadhwani raag song.

hemavathy · Post by **hemavathy** » 06 Sep 2009, 19:35

There r more songs in Hamsadhvani. one of Swathy Thirunal----pahi sripathe which used to be a master piece of Late.Neyathangarai Vasudevan &Karunai seivai gaja raja muka ------ of Papanasam sivan ,& rendered a loy by Late .Sri.D.K. Jayaraman & Smt Nithyasree mahadevan

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 06 Sep 2009, 21:35

The song nera mora jara cora has been performed by Rama Ravi on a 2 CD thematic concert available at Shrishti Carnatica Ltd.
Hyderabad Brothes have also rendered this at the Chicago Tyagaraja Utsavam on May 31, 2004.

pgaiyar · Post by **pgaiyar** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:06

Dear Mr.Lakshman:

Can you please upload the Hyd.Bros.'version of Nera Mora Jara Chora?. God bless you.

Regards

Guru

Rasika911 · Post by **Rasika911** » 12 Sep 2009, 07:34

keerthi wrote:

Try Veena Kuppayyar's song in the KaLahasti pancaratnam - Birana nannu brova.

I searched for it with no luck. Please share it with us if you have a rendition. Even an exerpt would be fine

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 12 Sep 2009, 10:20

No renderings.. there is notation available, if you can read telugu/kannada.. And then, hopefully, you will give us a rendition (even an excerpt would be fine!:) )

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 12 Sep 2009, 16:30

I don't have their rendering. I just posted the information.

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 16 Oct 2009, 01:47

ok. Sorry, this may not be relevant , but I just could not resist drawing up the meaning - Hamsa dwani -" swan song"??? the wiki says "The phrase "swan song" is a reference to an ancient belief that the Mute Swan (Cygnus olor) is completely mute during its lifetime until the moment just before it dies, when it sings one beautiful song.[1]
"

vallaki · Post by **vallaki** » 16 Oct 2009, 01:50

For any one in love with this raga, please listen to Kishori Amonkar's rendering of a a tarana (is that an equivalent of our thillana??) in musicindiaonline.com. That is amazing indeed.

vainika · Post by **vainika** » 16 Oct 2009, 19:08

vallaki wrote:For any one in love with this raga, please listen to Kishori Amonkar's rendering of a a tarana (is that an equivalent of our thillana??) in musicindiaonline.com. That is amazing indeed.

Thanks, this is lovely. I thought chatushruti dhaivata featured as an anusvara in some of the N-P descent phrases: did anyone else notice this?