identify the taalam in this dance

sreevin25 · Post by **sreevin25** » 16 Oct 2009, 10:26

Hi

I am trying to learn more about alarimpu or alarippu and I came across these videos. Can someone help me identify the taalam of these dances?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJIISv6Z ... re=related
My derivation - taam dit tam tai tat tai ki ta ta ka - taka takita taka takita takadhimi = 14 beats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbz4Jw28P6I
My derivation - taam dit taam kita taka tai dit tai - takita taka dhimi - 7 beats

Can someone please correct me here?

How many kinds of alarippus are there? one for each jati? so does that mean 5 kinds?

Thanks
Sree

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 16 Oct 2009, 10:32

Sree - I'd say both are in Misra Chapu talam (tha ki ta - tha ka dhi mi) which can be counted as either 7 or 14 beats

ganeshpv · Post by **ganeshpv** » 16 Oct 2009, 23:34

I wanna say the first one - Rama Vaidyanathan's is Ata Tala (Khanda Jathi Ata - 14 beats) and the second one is Misra Chapu.

You can have as many Alaripus as there are talas. So 35 talas of Carnatic Sapta Tala System, desi talas and any other tala you can imagine that is not included in these.

aatma · Post by **aatma** » 20 Oct 2009, 11:15

Hi,
Is there any rule set to Thala in Alarippu?????? what i felt from the 1st clipping that it could be "Misra

Eka / Misra Chappu / KhandaRupakam /Khanda Ada and from 2nd clip its Misra Chappu.Actually

If the Item is Set to what's in the 1st clip how the thala is determined ????? we are not concluding that

the thala is this/that. assumptions are going like a stream...... How will we decide??????

ganeshpv · Post by **ganeshpv** » 20 Oct 2009, 20:54

well..... the Tala in question (the 1st video) goes "thaka thakita, thaka thakita, thaka dimi". In other words, "5, 5, 2, 2" beats. The only Tala that fits this pattern in Sapta Taala system is Khanda Jathi Ata. Ata Tala is 1100 (1 being laghu and 0 being drutham.) In Khanda Jathi Ata Tala, laghu is Khanda jathi (5 beats). So it would be 5+5+2+2.

None of the other Talas, including the ones you have mentioned, fit this pattern.

This is why in Alaripu, sollakattus are said in the way Tala is represented.

sreevin25 · Post by **sreevin25** » 23 Oct 2009, 09:20

thanks everyone for valuable inputs! I shall be doing more such research and posting my queries.

laya2 · Post by **laya2** » 16 Dec 2009, 02:52

Hi

can you tell me what is the count of taka. is it 2 or just 1?

ofcoure taka thakitha is 5 but if we just say taka(in any speed) what is the count. I am confused.

ksl · Post by **ksl** » 29 Dec 2009, 04:40

taka is usually two beats..

ksl · Post by **ksl** » 29 Dec 2009, 04:48

I have never seen an alaripu not in ekam..thanks for the link sreevin25...Yes majorly, alarippu is done in a jaati ekam...so we do have tishra, chatushra, khanda, mishra and sankeerna alarippus.