Sanjay Subrahmanyan @ Bharat Kalachar,17-12-2009

prasanna.mr · Post by **prasanna.mr** » 17 Dec 2009, 23:08

Vocal:Sanjay Subrahmanyan
Violin:S.Varadarajan
Mridangam:Srimushnam Raja Rao
Ghatam:Kovai Mohanram
Bharat Kalachar,17-12-2009
1.Karunimpa[Varnam]-Sahana-Adi
2,Samageethapriyan-Gowlai-Adi [S]
3.Janani Ninnuvina-Reethigaulai-Mishra Chapu-Subburaya Shastri [A,N@pallavi,S@tamasamu seyakane]
4,Velum mayilume-Sucharitra-Rupakam-Koteeswara Iyer [A]
5.Nekke theliyaka-Ananda Bhairavi-Adi-Thyagaraja
6.Mohana Rama-Mohanam-Adi-Thyagaraja [A,N@dhara manujavatara,S,T]
7.Ragam Thanam Pallavi-Mukhari-Khanda Triputa
Pallavi:Govinda alamel mangai manaala vaa thiruventaka naada vaa
Ragamalika Swarams:Behag,Darbari Kaanada
8.Govandana Giridari-Darbari Kaanada-Adi-Narayana Theerthar
9.Orumaiyudan[Virutham]-Karaharapriya,Hamsanandi,Surutti,Sindu Bhairavi
10.Manathirukkuganthathu-Sindu Bhairavi-Adi
11,Thillana-Kamas
12.Pavamana-Saurashtram-Adi-Thyagaraja

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 17 Dec 2009, 23:18

In the pallavi actually Khanda Triputa arudi didnt end after Laghu it ended on the first veechu of drutam. That "Vaa" word fell on the veechu of first drutam. It was nice to hear. overall an excellent concert.

J.Balaji

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 18 Dec 2009, 02:25

Balaji: Since you say the arudi stress moved further, I first thought it sounded like a viloma misra roopakam ( 7+2 ) but in that case the arudi would have fallen on the 8th beat. You are saying it fell on the 7th beat, correct?

fuddyduddy · Post by **fuddyduddy** » 18 Dec 2009, 08:47

Seems like Mohanam motivates Sanjay to sing Mukhari - 6 and 7 remind me of his recent concert in Pomona. He had sung 'Narayana Divya namam' followed by the same RTP!

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 18 Dec 2009, 09:08

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2.Samageethapriyan(s)-Gowlai-Adi -??? Lji help
Swaras for 5 minutes
3.Janani Ninnuvina-Reethigaulai-Mishra Chapu-Subburaya Shastri [A,N@pallavi,S@tamasamu seyakane]
6 mins alapanai,4 mins violin
neraval in "jagamu lOna dikkevarammA" for 7 mins
swaras for 6 mins
4,Velum mayilume-Sucharitra-Rupakam-Koteeswara Iyer [A]
5 mins alapanai and 3 mins violin
5....

6A.Mohana Rama-Mohanam-Adi-Thyagaraja [A,N@dhara manujavatara,S,T]
14 mins alapanai , 6 mins violin , 7 mins neraval and 9 mins swaras
6B. tani for 20 mins
7.Ragam Thanam Pallavi-Mukhari-Khanda Triputa
Pallavi:Govinda alamel mangai manaala vaa thiruventaka naada vaa
Ragamalika Swarams:Behag,Darbari Kaanada
9 mins alapanai and 7 mins violin
8 mins tAnam

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What i Liked:
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#I was there for the concert from midway of gowlai , it was an excellent start , the pick of the day was reetigowlai submain , wonderful bhavam in neraval , he just pleaded with ambAl and was superb.

# sanjay's main strength is his vocal exuberance that gets powered more in alApanai , all 4 alapanai were top notch, especially the reetigowlai and mohanam was excellent to outstanding. The sucharitA was lovely too

# RTP was excellent more in rAgam and tANam and the darbAri kAnada swaras where he mimicked madurai somu famous recording.

# Varadarajan was bit off in reetigowlai , but from sucharita onwards his proportion and shruthi suddham was excellent

# Srimushnam did not bang at all , his play was very intelligent and aesthetic. His tani was not that great, as his exuberance did not come out well. I did not hear that much the ghatam artist

# the orumaiyudan was well done , especially the hamsAnandi

What I felt was a shortcoming:
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# Sanjay has a tendency to not give that much swara prasthana clarity ,at few places in rAgamAliga and in reetigowlai there is a slight dissonance or a little wobbling effect, swara aksharams can have more well rounded clarity like a semmangudi or gnb or few present musicians.

# The volume of sanjay was on the loud side, to an extent if it had been reduced a bit it would have been better.

# mOhanam swaras were not upto mark, it was bit filmy and slight dose of gimmicks . There was few slips noticable there.

# The biggest crib is his tendency to abandon the pallavi , he sang darbAri , did not come back in reverse order of swaras and also did not come back to complete the pallavi . Possibly he is doing that to impress the gallery and jump into the tukkada in this case govardhana. Pallavi has a place and it has to be sung in full, only software professionals have the right to abandon half way

All said and done , sanjay gives close to 100% and his vocal enthusiasm is always high, overall an excellent concert for 3 hours and 5 minutes

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 18 Dec 2009, 09:24

VK sir. The pallavi start was 2 beats after samam ie Small Finger Eduppu and went on till the First Drutam Veechu ... Govinda (7) alarmel (4) mangai (4) manaala (5) vaa falling on veechu.

J.Balaji

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 18 Dec 2009, 09:52

Thanks Balaji sir. It is indeed a bit unusual.

Member_First · Post by **Member_First** » 18 Dec 2009, 09:55

similar to dEshAdi talam Tyagarajar krities (like ChalamElara, mAkElarA, marugElarA) ?

uma1973 · Post by **uma1973** » 18 Dec 2009, 10:03

as rajeshnat says, the volume of the voice was too loud and jarring , balancing was nt proper , but i liked the way he delineated the alapana of mohanam

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 18 Dec 2009, 10:06

Member First ... That is different .. and this pallavi especially was different.
J.Balaji

Member_First · Post by **Member_First** » 18 Dec 2009, 10:13

JB - Can you pl explan.

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 18 Dec 2009, 11:22

Member_first there are lots and lots of explanation about Deshadi Tala in Tala and Laya section and i think it will be redundant here to explain deshadi. But the Pallavi was set in Khanda Triputa Tala and first of all it is not a Deshadi Tala. Secondly Deshadi Tala songs start after 1 1/2 beat after samam and this Pallavi was taken after 2 beats. So the Eduppu of the Pallavi is Anagatha Eduppu that is starting point of the pallavi comes after the Tala Starts.

Mannarkoil J Balaji

Member_First · Post by **Member_First** » 18 Dec 2009, 11:37

JB - Deshadi is a tAlam what is an anAgatha eduppu, even 1/4 edam is also to be called so. Ahatham in sanskrit means movement. atheeta means before and anA means after. that is very clear.

Coming on the pallavi, the way it has been presented (by you as well), is incorrect theoritically.

prasanna.mr · Post by **prasanna.mr** » 18 Dec 2009, 13:47

rajeshnat wrote:....
2.Samageethapriyan(s)-Gowlai-Adi -??? Lji help
Swaras for 5 minutes

Samageethapriyan - Ramalinga Swamigal

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 19 Dec 2009, 11:25

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# Sanjay has a tendency to not give that much swara prasthana clarity ,at few places in rAgamAliga and in reetigowlai there is a slight dissonance or a little wobbling effect, swara aksharams can have more well rounded clarity like a semmangudi or gnb or few present musicians.

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Rajesh, I also felt so, And some kind of order in the slow buildup of swarams is not there in some concerts. Or atleast it is not consciously felt by me.
Though I do feel it in others like Vijay Siva & TMK. When MMI sings such long swaras , the build up plan is consciously felt.

I am fine with his tendenecy to abandon the pallavi. At times the jump without the reverse order and to
a song like eppu varuvaaro after a jonpuri RTP was thrilling. Especially if he enters the first charnam or anupallavi, that
will even be better. changes within Sampradayam is ok.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 19 Dec 2009, 13:49

That rItigowLai still ringing in my ears.
Rajesh, you are right. Sanjay gave close to hundred percent that day--in spite of his not feeling hundred percent, it seemed. A few bouts of coughs made me wonder.