Bombay Jayashri @ Sri Parthasarathy Swami Sabha (Dec. 17)

Review the latest concerts you have listened to.
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abhi62_v
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Post by abhi62_v »

Vocal: Smt. Bombay Jayashri
Violin: Sri H.N. Bhaksar
Mridungam: Sri Arun Prakash

1. Sarasiruha Sanapriya (Nattai - Adi) S
2. Sangeetha Gnyanamu (Dhanyasi - Adi - ThyAgarAjar)
3. Evarura Ninnu (Mohanam - Mishra Chapu - ThyAgarAjar) RNS
4. Hari Hara Putram (Vasanta - Adi) R
5. Srimathi Lalithe (Bhairavi - Adi) RNST
6. RTP (Hamsanadam). Tanam also consisted of ragams KedAram and Poorvikalyani. Ragamalika Swarams in KedAram, Poorvikalyani, VasanthA, and then a reverse of these ragams, going back to Hamsanadam.
7. Kanda Vandarul (Sindhu Bhairavi / Abheri?)
8. Viruttam in Charukesi ...Followed by:
9. ?? - Charukesi
10. PavamAna (Sowrastram, then MadhyamAvathy)

The concert started off with an energetic Sarasiruha in Nattai. The swarams in the song were very good. Raga alapanai for mohanam was exceedingly well done. Neraval and swaram were also good. Nothing too special about the Vasantha. Bhairavi was very well done once again, especially the swaram.

I was very happy to hear Hamsanadam as the RTP ragam, since it is one of my favourite ragams. Alapanai was quite short, and Smt. Jayashri had a few problems with the ragam at the start. Tanam was in three ragams, Hamsanadam, Kedaram and Poorvikalyani. It was quite enjoyable. Neraval and swaram in the pallavi were also very good. The ragamalika swarams were very well done, especially during the end when she sang all the ragams once again in reverse. The finish of the pallavi was great. Sri Arun Prakash really uplifted all her songs. HN Bhaskar provided good support as well.

Overall, I realy enjoyed the concert. The RTP was definitely the highlight of the evening.

-Abhishek.

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

Thanks for the reviews. You have been busy!!

What was the pallavi?

#1 - sarasIruhAsana priyE (or sarasIruha Asana priyE)

Whose composition is #5?

#10. pavamAna in madhyamAvati, or was it something else?
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mohan
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Post by mohan »

#5 is probably Thyagaraja's lalithE SripraviddhE - a lAlgudi pancharatna kriti.

Member_First
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Post by Member_First »

pavamAna in madhyamAvati, or was it something else?

RS - Abhishek has clearly mentioned as ( PavamAna (Sowrastram, then MadhyamAvathy), then why there is (con) fusion?

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

M_F - if 'pavamAna' was sung in madhyamAvati - I have NOT heard this - would be interesting - changing what the saint composed in...

m_gopala
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Post by m_gopala »

Was it Sri Lalithe Kanchinagara by Annasami satri?

Rishi Sharma
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Post by Rishi Sharma »

Item no. 5 is indeed Lalite Sri Privruddha Srimati. It is the second Pancaratna of the Lalgudi Pancaratnas.

Can Abhi tell us where she sang niraval and swarams? Was it at Charanam line 'Kanna Talli Subha Vadane'?

A wonderful concert indeed... just by reading the tracklist... wish I could be there..

Always_Evolving
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Post by Always_Evolving »

Isn't it a common practice to sing the mangalam and then segue into madhyamavati ragam at close?

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

That is exactly what I was thinking too...

S.Govindaswamy
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Post by S.Govindaswamy »

Every Friday at 5.30 P.M Podhigi TV is telecasting a programme on mELakartA rAgAs, which is relelecast on Monday at 9.A.M. Every week, one expert gives a leture demonstration on two mELarAgAs,explaining, the features of the rAgA, the basis of the rAgA names as per kaTapayAdi sankhya, meaning of the relevant two stanzas of MahA vaidyanAtha sivan’s mELarAgamAlikA and singing a song in this rAgA. On 11.12.09 Vijaya SivA explained the rAgAs, Soolini /शूलिनि and calanATa /चलनाट.
However he pronounced the name of the first rAgA, wrongly as shUlini/षूलिनि. Not only that, while explaining that this is the 35 th rAgA in mELakartA scheme he wrongly mentioned that sha/ष is the fifth letter after ya/य. The meaning of ShUlini is the goddess carrying trident,(i.e) sUla (not shUla as he wrongly mentioned. Sha is not the fifth letter after ya. The order is य,र,ल,व.श,ष, As I could not find his email ID, I could not send a personal mail. I request some rasika to bring this to his notice.
Govindaswamy

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Post by Member_First »

There is also a practice some old schools to sing pavamAna(100rathtram) & slight rAg swarpooam of madhyamAvati, even with a sloka and finish the concert.

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

S.G: In pronouncing, is there a distinction between the शू of शूलिनि and the षू of षूलिनि?

I do not think so. The issue comes when both of these sounds are replaced by 'c' or 's' sounds by native tamizh speakers. AFAIK, for the rest, the sounds 's', 'c' are distinct from each other and from the sounds 'S'/'sh' which are extremely difficult if not impossible to distinguish from each other.

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Post by HarishankarK »

Bombay Jaishree sings Kanda Vandarul in Natabhairavi and
was the Charukeshi song been "Ayiram Ayiram Gopiyargal odu nadam adi vilayadi varum anandakrishnan"

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Post by srikant1987 »

rshankar,

I do distinguish the two, but most others don't, afaik. I've given up trying to explain. Btw people don't pronounce palatal consonants (c, ch, j, jh, n~) the way they used to be I think, which is one reason they don't understand how 'sh' is to be said.

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Post by hemavathy »

Harishnkark if i am not wrong JAYSHREE always sings KANDA VANDARUL in the RAGA AABERI. i have never heard her singing in the raga that you have mentioned .

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Post by Shalu »

Jayashri truly must be complimented on how she completely demarcates her Carnatic concerts and her film singing, doing complete justice to both in her own unique way. Hats off

srikrishna
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Post by srikrishna »

rshankar wrote:S.G: In pronouncing, is there a distinction between the शू of शूलिनि and the षू of षूलिनि?

I do not think so. The issue comes when both of these sounds are replaced by 'c' or 's' sounds by native tamizh speakers. AFAIK, for the rest, the sounds 's', 'c' are distinct from each other and from the sounds 'S'/'sh' which are extremely difficult if not impossible to distinguish from each other.
I do not then know why one should have two different alphabets if one does not have distinct sounds for each, however close they may sound. I have had quite a bit of disagreement over this issue with my friends on this issue, most of them hailing from Tamil Nadu.

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Post by Member_First »

षू and its series ( unable to print in devanagri), in my observation does not come at the commencement of a word. The other sha (शू) most of the places come at the start of a word. Like in usha & shakti.

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Post by PUNARVASU »

Member_First wrote:षू and its series ( unable to print in devanagri), in my observation does not come at the commencement of a word. The other sha (शू) most of the places come at the start of a word. Like in usha & shakti.
shaNmukha, shaNmatha, shODashOpachAra- etc have षू-in the beginning; any word denoting the no. 6 ,16 will have this.

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Post by Member_First »

any word denoting the no. 6 ,16 will have this.

Basically this 'sha' is 16th alphabet in DevanAgari language & musically also in ka ta pa yAdi sankhya ( kAdi navam, Taadi navam, paadi panchamam AND YAAAD YASTAM), this sha is 6th alphabet in the last series(ya, ra, la, va, sha & SHA, ha).

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Post by HarishankarK »

hemavathy wrote:Harishnkark if i am not wrong JAYSHREE always sings KANDA VANDARUL in the RAGA AABERI. i have never heard her singing in the raga that you have mentioned .
I have heard her sing it on TV once some DD program in Natabhairavi. Once again in her album Amritham she has sung the composition in Natabhairavi only and the casette cover mentions it as Natabhairavi also.

Have not heard this song from anyone else so dunno how it sounds in Abheri.
But Jayashree's rendering that i have heard in Natabhairavi is quite moving, which beats me why she shd now resort to singing it in Aabheri !!

malavi
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Post by malavi »

M.L.V. used to sing Kanda Vandarul in Aabheri but i think ni is different in this particular song.

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