Sangitha Kalanidhi 2009

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Member_First
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Post by Member_First »

B'coz of the coveted support from the CM of Tamil Nadu, Valayapatti gets SK !!

Mr. Bharat - Here I meant CM - Carnatic Music and you opened another pendora box !!

rbharath
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Post by rbharath »

Member_First wrote:B'coz of the coveted support from the CM of Tamil Nadu, Valayapatti gets SK !!

Mr. Bharat - Here I meant CM - Carnatic Music and you opened another pendora box !!
carnatic music of tamil nadu?
now, whats that...

annamalai
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Post by annamalai »

rbharath wrote:
Member_First wrote:B'coz of the coveted support from the CM of Tamil Nadu, Valayapatti gets SK !!
so what if the MA decides to act in favour of the Government.

but obvious that Sri Subramanian would be the automatic choice. He is probably the most famous of his generation and seniormost amongst those available with us today.

It is my personal opinion that Sri Subramanian is defly a deserving person.
The connection of N. Murali of Hindu with Maran family and thus DMK govt is clear. So, there is an influence of CM on Music Academy and Hindu. I have stopped reading Hindu as a newspaper due to its supposedly "secular" leanings.

Meccademy made a big deal of Musiri centennial and the influence of CV Narasimhan was evident that year. There were SKs, who were able to pull strings here and there and exceptions to the rule were made.

This year happens to be GNB centennial and it is a pity, Trichur Ramachandran is not given the award. Seniority is also not an issue, TNS and TVS are younger to Trichur Ramachandran and they have been SK already.

As I mentioned in another thread, SK award to a Tavil artist is very nice. First, I am not convinced that Valayappati is the right person. Secondly, I think this year, GNB centennial should have been Trichur Ramachandran.
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balu
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Post by balu »

going by the trend next year wecan expect drums sivamani to be awarded the sk.or mr zakir hussain the tabla wizard to get .long live cm.

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Post by sivachinta1965 »

dear annamalaiji

Great news. You have stopped reading the Hindu. We should call that paper as A"hindu"

Sivaprasad

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Post by Anaconda »

Congratulations to Sri Valayapatti....

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Is this official or yet another joke!
What happens to the little bird who whispered to Nick :)

raghavt
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Post by raghavt »

So Mr, Nick.... the award goes to.............. any way thanks to you for starting this thread... :D

108talas
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Post by 108talas »

Valayapatti is close to Trichy only... Great CM performers have to still wait.

Like calmed wave
Like lion in cave
Face further with brave
Lastly, his(S)tory will crave...

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vpadmana
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Post by vpadmana »

Lalgudi was offered and declined the SK several times in the past. He will not accept it while he is alive.

Rasika911
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Post by Rasika911 »

Whats the difference between Sangeetha kalanidhi and Sangeetha Acharya?
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karthikbala
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Post by karthikbala »

Rasika911 wrote:Whats the difference between Sangeetha kalanidhi and Sangeetha Acharya?
My understanding is that Nidhi is for performers and Acharya is for teachers (as opposed to on-stage talent). However if you study the list of awardees over the years you will see many a switch. Sangita Kalacharya Sandyavandanam Srinivasa Rao for instance was a quality performer if ever there was one, with his superb voice culture in evidence even in his advanced years. On the other hand there are some Kalanidhi awardees whose vidhwath and pedantry probably exceeded their performing skills (not meant in any pejorative sense!). Kalacharya is also awarded I guess as a consolation prize to great performers who do not have the clout to get the more sought after title. Bottom line I guess is, the definition or difference probably is a function of the voting members of the time, the claimants and perhaps a least-squares fitting process etc. to minimise heartburn or some other metric.

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Post by diogeneb »

My vote is for Shri T.V. Gopalakrishnan. Not only is TVG an outstanding mridangam player, who charted out his own style, but a versatile vocalist as well, both in the Carnatic and Hindustani idioms. To top it, he also has to his credit a book (books?) on voice culture, and has been a voice culture coach for many prominent musicians. Ever an underrated musician, IMHO.
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Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

What are we voting for now, next year already? :lol:

But, I couldn't agree more about TVG both as a mridangist and a vocalist.

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Post by Svaapana »

It is time MA started looking at the younger generation of musicians, say in the age group of 40 - 50 for the SK title. Will it not be nice to see someone at their peak getting the award? MA need not bother using magnifying glass to search for artistes past their best and even stopped performing!

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Post by mohan »

Svaapana wrote:It is time MA started looking at the younger generation of musicians, say in the age group of 40 - 50 for the SK title.
Why? Are there not enough senior musicians worthy of the title but who have not been recognised in the past?

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

It is a simple fact of the finite nature of life that young musicians have decades of chances ahead of them, whilst older persons do not.

Svaapana
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Post by Svaapana »

Mohan,
It is heartening to note that the tamil isai sangham has chosen a relatively young and an active performing musician for this year's award.

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Post by lahari »

Couldnt agree with Mr. Annamalai more.

The Daily could stop calling themselves, "The Hindu" and instead find an appropriate one based on its
"secular" and leftist leanings.

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Post by bhavarasa »

I didn't realize "secular" was bad - particularly for a media organization.

Also, back in the 90s, there was an editorial from "The Hindu" clarifying their name. The essence was that though it started out as a predominantly Hindu newspaper, it had since morphed into a more secular newspaper and while the original name did signify religious affiliation, the present-day version was not aligned with any one particular religion. But, it said, it would not be prudent to effect a name change since there was a broader brand recognition based on that name.

A mainstream newspaper (or any mainstream news organization) should be secular. Anything other than that would be detrimental to democracy.

In any case, I'd rather attach the word "multi-cultural" than secular to The Hindu.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Right. Hindu is like the Christian Science Monitor. Despite what the name may suggest, CSM is not a religious-themed paper. And like the Hindu, a religious article appears in every issue.

A mainstream paper may have/will have political leanings which sometimes overlap with religious matters but that should be the extent of the association with religion.

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