I always wondered why a category of people (ladies especially) are singing in such a jarring voice. Are they born with such voices.Actually this is the type of voices that any unitiated amateurs would be tempted to imitate. the more shrill and ear piercing the more sweeter it is considered. Over a few decades this has becomes the household voices of India. If a singer tries ever to sing in here original voice she is looked down in the popular music category. but where did it all start from.. we have discussed this before . But, i got an interesting study on that voice culture and would like to share it here....
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The odd voice became t mainstream voice. but how?Interesting
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ganesh_mourthy
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arasi
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Re: The odd voice became t mainstream voice. but how?Interesting
Interesting discussion, g_m.
Noorjehan's voice as I remember it had a distinct quality, a dreaminess about it. That sweetness element which one finds in Lata's voice is not the same as the charm that Noorjehan's voice possessed. I don't think Noorjehan was a trendsetter. I would say it was Lata's voice which started the trend. Perhaps a 'young woman's voice' was meant to go with a young heroine (at least, storywise), and a tradition was established--LAta having sung hundreds of songs. Actually, Lata's earliest (?) venture into lending her voice to hindi films started with Raj kapoor's BarsAt. When she sang 'havA mEn uDtA jAye' and 'barsAt me hum se mile', you could hear her marAti accent and yes, a very young woman's voice to portray Nimmi as a young innocent village maiden. In CM today, I would equate it to the trend of young wannabes trying to emulate Sudha Ragunathan's singing--to them, a move to achieve success?
Noorjehan's voice as I remember it had a distinct quality, a dreaminess about it. That sweetness element which one finds in Lata's voice is not the same as the charm that Noorjehan's voice possessed. I don't think Noorjehan was a trendsetter. I would say it was Lata's voice which started the trend. Perhaps a 'young woman's voice' was meant to go with a young heroine (at least, storywise), and a tradition was established--LAta having sung hundreds of songs. Actually, Lata's earliest (?) venture into lending her voice to hindi films started with Raj kapoor's BarsAt. When she sang 'havA mEn uDtA jAye' and 'barsAt me hum se mile', you could hear her marAti accent and yes, a very young woman's voice to portray Nimmi as a young innocent village maiden. In CM today, I would equate it to the trend of young wannabes trying to emulate Sudha Ragunathan's singing--to them, a move to achieve success?
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ganesh_mourthy
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thanks Arasi, for some good inputs and comparison. do you know any link to the voice of noor jehan ? i would like to listen, and had never so far.
by the by your phrasing "" That sweetness element which one finds in Lata's voice is not the same as the charm that Noorjehan's voice possessed"".
I dont understand that. you are appreciative of both the voices equally????
by the by your phrasing "" That sweetness element which one finds in Lata's voice is not the same as the charm that Noorjehan's voice possessed"".
I dont understand that. you are appreciative of both the voices equally????
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arasi
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Re: The odd voice became t mainstream voice. but how?Interesting
Hope someone gives the link to one of Noorjehan's songs.
By 'sweetness' in Lata's voice, I mean the quality which has become a hallmark of sweetness in the past half a century and more. Which kind of sweetness is preferable? It is dependent on one's individual taste. Rasgulla or chum chum, ladoo or sohan papDi? All are sweets.
Noorjehan's voice was one of a kind, so was Suraiya's, though more robust. How about Geetha Dutts? All are sweet voices, of course...
By 'sweetness' in Lata's voice, I mean the quality which has become a hallmark of sweetness in the past half a century and more. Which kind of sweetness is preferable? It is dependent on one's individual taste. Rasgulla or chum chum, ladoo or sohan papDi? All are sweets.
Noorjehan's voice was one of a kind, so was Suraiya's, though more robust. How about Geetha Dutts? All are sweet voices, of course...
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Re: The odd voice became t mainstream voice. but how?Interesting
My theory... and it's about as basic as one can get... It is a young girl's voice and that's what the guys want to hear.
(I would have said, "me too", except that, at some age or other, in the past, I started to find it more irritating than attractive)
(I would have said, "me too", except that, at some age or other, in the past, I started to find it more irritating than attractive)
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but why is that we consider latajis, noor jehan, and geeta dutt as a parameter. Well, i prefer Janaki for her sweetness and modulation. she is a combination of lata and asha. I think that is the most sought after thing in light music, mould and adapt to all situations and charecters.
i dont know how many of you have heard these songs.
listen to chinna chinna vanna kuyil from mouna raagam
and chinna thaayaval from thalabathy. what a contrast in mood and accordingly the modulation.
i dont know how many of you have heard these songs.
listen to chinna chinna vanna kuyil from mouna raagam
and chinna thaayaval from thalabathy. what a contrast in mood and accordingly the modulation.