Title of Rasika Siromani
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kssr
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Title of Rasika Siromani
Sometime back, I had started a string on history of rasikas.org and the future. There were many enlightening posts. There were many touching tales. There was information of invaluable contributions from some of the members to the cause of CM. Also, there was a recent post of how mankuthimma's and his father's contribution was left unrecognised by a Mumbai sabha. I then got a tiny idea.
Why can we not evolve a system within rasikas.org to honour great contributors by a title of Rasika Siromani (also the way the Lord is addressed by Vaggeyakkaaraas) to one person per year. May be a plaque or citation to be given on one eminent rasika- no money. It can be handed over during a get together of rasikas (probably like the one presently being organised in Chennai). The moderators of rasikas.org will make the final decision about the candidate. Although there will definitely be many candidates in the beginning, we accept the decision of the mods graciously. Of course rasikas can post their preference through this or another exclusive thread. But it shall not be based on voting, as the real value/ contribution of a given rasikas (I guess) will be known to the mods better than anyone else.
I am personally not against voluntary contributions by members towards the expenses which can preferably be held at a neutral venue.
I invite all to express their reactions.
Why can we not evolve a system within rasikas.org to honour great contributors by a title of Rasika Siromani (also the way the Lord is addressed by Vaggeyakkaaraas) to one person per year. May be a plaque or citation to be given on one eminent rasika- no money. It can be handed over during a get together of rasikas (probably like the one presently being organised in Chennai). The moderators of rasikas.org will make the final decision about the candidate. Although there will definitely be many candidates in the beginning, we accept the decision of the mods graciously. Of course rasikas can post their preference through this or another exclusive thread. But it shall not be based on voting, as the real value/ contribution of a given rasikas (I guess) will be known to the mods better than anyone else.
I am personally not against voluntary contributions by members towards the expenses which can preferably be held at a neutral venue.
I invite all to express their reactions.
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hariniraghavan
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kssr, the idea is good but then here also there will be lot of differences of opinion just as in the case of Sagita Kalanidhi.
Harini.
Harini.
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carnaticlaw
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kssr,
great idea. I am 'ilaya thalapathi'.
great idea. I am 'ilaya thalapathi'.
I am ok with the idea, but as a non hindu, I want another name for the title. how about 'isai sooravali'? or 'isai singam'? 'isai Tsunami' or 'mettukudi isai thalaivar'?Rasika Siromani (also the way the Lord is addressed by Vaggeyakkaaraas)
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kssr
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In order to introduce the name Rasika Siromani, as a familiar one because of its being used in CM, I mentioned it. Isai something will then be objected by non-tamilians. It could quite simply be "Carnatic Music Lover of the year" or any other name which can be chosen once again by Rasikas.org.
As some sort of a non-profit oriented, cultural group, I thought it fit for us to come together and "recognise" the contribution of some of the distinguished rasikas. But mostly everyone is quiet. Maybe they consider themselves a likely candidate and it is immodest to comment!!!
As some sort of a non-profit oriented, cultural group, I thought it fit for us to come together and "recognise" the contribution of some of the distinguished rasikas. But mostly everyone is quiet. Maybe they consider themselves a likely candidate and it is immodest to comment!!!
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Nick H
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I'm quiet because Harini has said it for me. It's a lovely idea, but in practice there is human nature.
There is more than enough bickering and needling from some of our members: this would be a wonderful fuel to some.
There is more than enough bickering and needling from some of our members: this would be a wonderful fuel to some.
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mankuthimma
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You are right KSSR
The last time I made my choice for a SK , I proposed a statue for THE UNKOWN RECORDER on Marina Beach or within the Academy Premises - as a tribute to that unkown person who had spent time and money to preserve so many concerts on tape . Tapes which are the basis of our knowledge of what the music was like in the Golden Era.
And people came out with daggers complimenting me for proposing my own name for SK - such a silly and improbable thought .
Good Luck . But I think the best way to honor is not honor with titles ( they have become meaningless ) or medals but by keeping up a tradition of intelligent , reciprocally graceful interactions , knowing well that whether it is Mudra or Sangeethapriya or Mohan or Rasikas.org ... everyone is striving in their own way to beautify our worlds.
I would personally expand the scope for an award , if ever there was one :
To the likes of Mudra , to start with .Then the brain behind Sangeethapriya . Mohan is one of my personal favourites to show what internet community can do for CM, Srkris for sticking it out with this addictive site . Saraswathi Vaggeyakras Trust's Srinivasan , Nadopasana Srinivasan , Ananya Raghavendra .This is quick list . There are so many people out there to whom we owe so much .....
The last time I made my choice for a SK , I proposed a statue for THE UNKOWN RECORDER on Marina Beach or within the Academy Premises - as a tribute to that unkown person who had spent time and money to preserve so many concerts on tape . Tapes which are the basis of our knowledge of what the music was like in the Golden Era.
And people came out with daggers complimenting me for proposing my own name for SK - such a silly and improbable thought .
Good Luck . But I think the best way to honor is not honor with titles ( they have become meaningless ) or medals but by keeping up a tradition of intelligent , reciprocally graceful interactions , knowing well that whether it is Mudra or Sangeethapriya or Mohan or Rasikas.org ... everyone is striving in their own way to beautify our worlds.
I would personally expand the scope for an award , if ever there was one :
To the likes of Mudra , to start with .Then the brain behind Sangeethapriya . Mohan is one of my personal favourites to show what internet community can do for CM, Srkris for sticking it out with this addictive site . Saraswathi Vaggeyakras Trust's Srinivasan , Nadopasana Srinivasan , Ananya Raghavendra .This is quick list . There are so many people out there to whom we owe so much .....
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kssr
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A small difference in perception here. I would like to exclude "organisers" from this imaginary award. Otherwise once again we may have to start with the president of MA, Shanmukhananda, Gayana Samaja and so on... Stick to just good rasikas who help each other personally and thro' blogs, etc.,
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mankuthimma
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Moving away from the subject of awards , I have had the benefit of interacting with the following fine gentlemen .. in the process of acquiring - giving ...
Laxmi Subramaniam , Raju Asokan, Tharak Ramachandran of US ( who first taught me the basics of conversion ) , Tharak who now lives in Dubai , Delhi Muthukmar ,Krishna Prasad from Bnagalore, Pavan ( now in Ahmedabad) Pitchai Adilingam ( Grandson of TNR and Son In Law of Kariakurchi Arunachalam - I met him at the Veenotsav today and he promised to give me his latest find - a 9 minute Video of Karaikurchi playing the raga neelamani ) , Padren - again from Dubai , HMG Murthy , aravind of Shimoga , Meena with some great links ,Raghavan , Bheema Sastri from the US , Saquib Javed of Sadarang.com, one Narayanswamy from Adyar , Late Mudenur Sangannanavar ,Late Sampath Iyengar of Hubli ,Sridhar Seshagiri from the US ( I still need volunteers to convert more than a 1000 tapes which are still new to stuff in circulation - ones who can buy a philips recorder and keep converting to mp3 on a pen drive) ........ and so many more fine souls.
These are just the big names . There many many more .Making it a very elaborate network.
Much of the effort is now codified at Sangeethapriya in a manner that looks like standing the test of time.
So in a way , the awarding mechanism at Sangeethapriya should suffice , as far as kssr's specs go.
The title they give is equivalent to what kssr calls as the Shiromani.
A pure "By the rasika , for the rasika , of the rasika effort".
Laxmi Subramaniam , Raju Asokan, Tharak Ramachandran of US ( who first taught me the basics of conversion ) , Tharak who now lives in Dubai , Delhi Muthukmar ,Krishna Prasad from Bnagalore, Pavan ( now in Ahmedabad) Pitchai Adilingam ( Grandson of TNR and Son In Law of Kariakurchi Arunachalam - I met him at the Veenotsav today and he promised to give me his latest find - a 9 minute Video of Karaikurchi playing the raga neelamani ) , Padren - again from Dubai , HMG Murthy , aravind of Shimoga , Meena with some great links ,Raghavan , Bheema Sastri from the US , Saquib Javed of Sadarang.com, one Narayanswamy from Adyar , Late Mudenur Sangannanavar ,Late Sampath Iyengar of Hubli ,Sridhar Seshagiri from the US ( I still need volunteers to convert more than a 1000 tapes which are still new to stuff in circulation - ones who can buy a philips recorder and keep converting to mp3 on a pen drive) ........ and so many more fine souls.
These are just the big names . There many many more .Making it a very elaborate network.
Much of the effort is now codified at Sangeethapriya in a manner that looks like standing the test of time.
So in a way , the awarding mechanism at Sangeethapriya should suffice , as far as kssr's specs go.
The title they give is equivalent to what kssr calls as the Shiromani.
A pure "By the rasika , for the rasika , of the rasika effort".
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kssr
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I have also contributed my squirrel seva in the network,( You, of course, do not know me) by splitting full concerts into individual songs and naming them, etc., In case you need any help, I will definitely do my best.mankuthimma wrote: So in a way , the awarding mechanism at Sangeethapriya should suffice , as far as kssr's specs go.
What is the awarding mechanism? I am not aware of much of the activities in that site. I know that they have a good collection of concerts. I haven't used it so far.
The title they give is equivalent to what kssr calls as the Shiromani.
A pure "By the rasika , for the rasika , of the rasika effort".
What is the title?
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vasanthakokilam
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kssr
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Very interesting indeed. 2007 had the second awardee in Sri.Lakshman. Who are the awardees from 2006,08,09 (10?)vasanthakokilam wrote:rasikapriya ( http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4021 )
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vasanthakokilam
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Found the info by searching around.
2006: Dr. Shrikaanth, 2007: Lakshman, 2008: S. Ramasundaram and T.V.Gopalakrishnan, 2009: HMG Murthy and Dr Manjunath, 2010: not yet announced, usually towards the end of the year.
2006: Dr. Shrikaanth, 2007: Lakshman, 2008: S. Ramasundaram and T.V.Gopalakrishnan, 2009: HMG Murthy and Dr Manjunath, 2010: not yet announced, usually towards the end of the year.
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mahakavi
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T V Gopalakrishnan ( not the musician) and Ramasundaram
Dr. Shrikant Murthy
Dr. Manjunath and H M G Murthy
Dr. Shrikant Murthy
Dr. Manjunath and H M G Murthy
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musicfan_4201
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Music collection has been taken as a hobby by many music lovers and have been collected over the years out of sheer passion. However, amongst these a few have made it is a business in order to recover their cost of investment in gadgets, tapes etc and also make a small profit. Some have made big money too or rather make a living out of it (I am not complaining here).
But sharing this lovely music WITHOUT any expectation or benefit whatsoever was initiated by the Kulkarnis, Raju Asokans and Tharak (TO NAME A FEW) and whom I know well. Kudos to them for the efforts put in to archive in the best possible manner.
During the days I was hunting for the music of Kalyanaraman and TRS, Tharak whom I knew only for a couple of days then gave me his entire folder to copy. Kulkarni offered me his full set of TRS CDs
But sharing this lovely music WITHOUT any expectation or benefit whatsoever was initiated by the Kulkarnis, Raju Asokans and Tharak (TO NAME A FEW) and whom I know well. Kudos to them for the efforts put in to archive in the best possible manner.
During the days I was hunting for the music of Kalyanaraman and TRS, Tharak whom I knew only for a couple of days then gave me his entire folder to copy. Kulkarni offered me his full set of TRS CDs
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mankuthimma
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A few more names that I forgot in my rush ( quite upardonable )
Ravi Joshi of SIFA.
Cleveland Sundaram who converted ( for Tharak-Nageswaran and Myself) over a 1000 tapes and 100 spools - at no cost to us - Not even the cost of the media. CS did not even choose to compress to mp3 before handing over our stuff .He could have saved a lot on Media cost, if had cosen to. Instead he gave it all back to us in CD format . Explains a great deal , the length to which people with passion can go, for preserving this art.
kssr
There is always a backlog of cutting unindexed concerts to tracks with the names of Krithis .Will get in touch with you.
Ravi Joshi of SIFA.
Cleveland Sundaram who converted ( for Tharak-Nageswaran and Myself) over a 1000 tapes and 100 spools - at no cost to us - Not even the cost of the media. CS did not even choose to compress to mp3 before handing over our stuff .He could have saved a lot on Media cost, if had cosen to. Instead he gave it all back to us in CD format . Explains a great deal , the length to which people with passion can go, for preserving this art.
kssr
There is always a backlog of cutting unindexed concerts to tracks with the names of Krithis .Will get in touch with you.
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radha bhaskar
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If forumites could really arrive at a genuine nomination for the title of "Rasika Sironmani" then we could even organise a small function in Mudhra to confer this award during the December Music Fest! After all, without rasikas the art and artises cannot survive and so it would be apt to recognise this clan as well! Of course, you have to make sure that that person will be able to make it to the award function if he is a candidate from outside Chennai!
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hariniraghavan
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First of all we should decide what would be the criteria to select a person for the award.
Harini.
Harini.
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kssr
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It is a good turn. From talking in generalities to talking in specifics.radha bhaskar wrote:If forumites could really arrive at a genuine nomination for the title of "Rasika Sironmani" then we could even organise a small function in Mudhra to confer this award during the December Music Fest! After all, without rasikas the art and artises cannot survive and so it would be apt to recognise this clan as well! Of course, you have to make sure that that person will be able to make it to the award function if he is a candidate from outside Chennai!
First, it should not be a posthumous award. Only for a living person. Should not be a performing artist. One who attends many concerts and all the obvious things. Importantly one who "contributes" in some way to CM. Names do pop up in the mind. But better leave it to the mods of rasikas.org. or a selection committee created for the purpose.
Thanks Smt.Radha for offering to take this forward under Mudhra. You are already doing some very good creative and useful work and this task, I am sure can be taken up successfully by you.
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bilahari
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How would this award be distinct from the Sangeethapriya award? Isn't Sangeethapriya's annual award sufficient and with the same goal of honouring rasikas?
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kssr
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Perspectives of different organisations are different. Why are different music sabhas having different honours and titles.Why do different universities bestow honorary doctorates for the same specialisation. As long as we do not have a centralised rasika organisation, we cannot unify the recognition procedure as well. Only Central and state governments can give awards without duplication of purpose.
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kssr
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Going back to the Title itself, my original suggestion of Rasika Siromani , is religion neutral. It just means something like "Great Rasika" (Sanskriters pls help!). You should not have any objection to it.carnaticlaw wrote:kssr,
Rasika Siromani (also the way the Lord is addressed by Vaggeyakkaaraas)
I am ok with the idea, but as a non hindu, I want another name for the title.
Secondly, even taking the meaning of our composers, it just implies that GOD is a rasika, irrespective of which God. Definitely Hindu. Also Christian, from the Choirs held in churches and Muslim, by the musical worship in mosques. If you are something still different, you can check back with your relatives. Music and divinity (godliness) are always intertwined.
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squims
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The term 'Siromani' indicates excellence or gives the meaning of 'of the highest quality' in Sanskrit.
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ragam-talam
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Siras = head, maNi = jewel; thus SirOmaNi just means something like 'jewel on the head'.
Quite appropriate term to describe someone who excels in what he/she does.

Quite appropriate term to describe someone who excels in what he/she does.
In fact, it may be better to keep it only posthumous! This way we can minimise controversies, heated debates, wranglings, etc. etc.First, it should not be a posthumous award.
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mahakavi
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Will you be able to mail the award (to the person selected) to the proper destination--with acknowledgement due from the recipient? 
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i_worship_srkris&vk
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MK,
it will be sent to them physically, because they will be reborn ( I am not sure if in a human form
). But, rest assured, it will go to them. I threw a bone to a dog yesterday (a great yesteryear musician)
it will be sent to them physically, because they will be reborn ( I am not sure if in a human form
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i_worship_srkris&vk
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kssr,it just implies that GOD is a rasika, irrespective of which God. Definitely Hindu. Also Christian, from the Choirs held in churches and Muslim, by the musical worship in mosques.
i totally welcome your idea. but I do not belong to any of the religions you mentioned and I don't believe in God. I just love music ..thats why I suggested "isai singam' for the title. I changed my avatar just to show my humble respects for people I love.
thanks
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kssr
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Then it becomes much more easier to justify the suggested title for the imaginary award. Rasika Siromani just means Great Rasika and that is what the award is all about.
I am reminded of bertrand russell's story. He was once jailed for his revolutionary ideas. When he entered the jail, the warden asked what his religion was. BR said he was an agnostic. The warden patronisingly said - Never mind. Although there are many religions, all of them lead to the same God! That according to Russell kept him amused for the rest of the jail term. Read "BR's BEST"- a wonderful collection.
I am reminded of bertrand russell's story. He was once jailed for his revolutionary ideas. When he entered the jail, the warden asked what his religion was. BR said he was an agnostic. The warden patronisingly said - Never mind. Although there are many religions, all of them lead to the same God! That according to Russell kept him amused for the rest of the jail term. Read "BR's BEST"- a wonderful collection.
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csuresh
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There is one Ms.Kasturi Mambalam who is taking great efforts in recording concerts in bangalore and also editing with noise reduction etc and uploading in sangeetham share.She is deserved to be awarded this Rasika Sironmani
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radha bhaskar
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I think a person who attends the maximum number of concerts all through the year should be considered for this award. It is indeed a great effort to consistently come to a concert, sit through and also offer a few words of appreciation to the artist. I think the forum has got stuck in its selection process. If you could speed up with this, we could include this also in the December programme schedule of mudhra as a recognition for the great rasikas without whom we are nowhere!
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kssr
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Great! We, at rasikas.org hereby authorise you to make the selection of Rasika Siromani 2010.
Seriously, I would appreciate it if the moderators, administrators and senior contributors of rasikas confirm acceptance so that it can be taken forward. I suggest Mudhra to talk to rasikas and take a decision. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Wish you good luck. Kindly communicate the decision through the forum. Thanks for everyone to have even taken my humble suggetsion this far.
kssr.
Seriously, I would appreciate it if the moderators, administrators and senior contributors of rasikas confirm acceptance so that it can be taken forward. I suggest Mudhra to talk to rasikas and take a decision. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Wish you good luck. Kindly communicate the decision through the forum. Thanks for everyone to have even taken my humble suggetsion this far.
kssr.
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radha bhaskar
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Oh no! I said Mudhra could host the function.It is upto the forum members to decide on the right candidate. And I wish all members of rasigas.org who are chennai then make it a point to attend the function and express their solidarity and unity. We could have it prior to a concert on some day of teh fest and maybe a small high tea for members of rasigas.org as well!
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kssr
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Once again I request Smt.Radha Bhaskar to talk to the main administrative group at rasikas and arrive at a candidate. Everyone will understand that it cannot be put to vote in the forum and hope to arrive at a consensus.
Although I am relatively pretty new to the forum, from what I have read in the History of Rasikas string and from other friends who know persons in the forum personally and are more familiar with the background, and also to set the ball rolling, May I suggest the name of ..... ............................................... scroll down !!!
Sri.Mankuthimma alias Sri.Coolji alias Sri. KuXXXXXi as my nominee!
Although I am relatively pretty new to the forum, from what I have read in the History of Rasikas string and from other friends who know persons in the forum personally and are more familiar with the background, and also to set the ball rolling, May I suggest the name of ..... ............................................... scroll down !!!
Sri.Mankuthimma alias Sri.Coolji alias Sri. KuXXXXXi as my nominee!
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radha bhaskar
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This idea seems to have got stuck -no repsonse from forumites! I thought it a great idea indeed.
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vasanthakokilam
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Mankuthimma is a great choice indeed.
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radha bhaskar
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since most of you do not use your original names, I am totally confused at times! Anyway you can give some brief detailsof the person you vote for so that forumites know his credentials for the title!
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vasanthakokilam
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BTW, This thread was started by kssr to brainstorm the idea. It is good to see it morphing into some action. I do not think the admin and mods of this site are going to choose, though kssr wants it that way rather than voting.
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kssr
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I based my choice of Sri.Mankuthimma based on many posts by many eminent forum members in another thread on the History of rasikas.org.
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic. ... 00#p174000
I am quite sure that this thread along with other considerations would lead us to a decision on the correct choice for the title of Rasika Siromani which can be given away at the Mudhra festival in December 2010. There will obviously be many contenders for this title, as we are just starting this experiment. This being the first year, we can just come to a quick conclusion and get the matter moving. It would be interesting to have Sri.Mankuthimma's views on this as well. Veterans like Arasi, VK,MK, Rajesh, Nick, srkris, VKV, Nageswaran and others should kindly give their views as well. All of them are also likely candidates
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic. ... 00#p174000
I am quite sure that this thread along with other considerations would lead us to a decision on the correct choice for the title of Rasika Siromani which can be given away at the Mudhra festival in December 2010. There will obviously be many contenders for this title, as we are just starting this experiment. This being the first year, we can just come to a quick conclusion and get the matter moving. It would be interesting to have Sri.Mankuthimma's views on this as well. Veterans like Arasi, VK,MK, Rajesh, Nick, srkris, VKV, Nageswaran and others should kindly give their views as well. All of them are also likely candidates
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ragam-talam
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If this criterion is used, member rajeshnat should win hands down. Plus, he has been providing this forum with valuable reviews of the concerts he attends.I think a person who attends the maximum number of concerts all through the year should be considered for this award.
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ragam-talam
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A question: are you considering just members of this forum, or others who are outside of it also?
I am sure there are several rasikas who are not forum members (or not so active here) who would be excellent candidates for the award.
E.g. Dr PP Narayanaswami who, along with Vidya, has brought out the English translation of SSP. He has also worked on several other excellent CM projects.
I am sure there are several rasikas who are not forum members (or not so active here) who would be excellent candidates for the award.
E.g. Dr PP Narayanaswami who, along with Vidya, has brought out the English translation of SSP. He has also worked on several other excellent CM projects.
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Nick H
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I'd like to second r-t's vote for rajeshnat, but I would add to it rbharath. Both of them are such regular concert attenders and music lovers and write wonderful reports for us.
It's a good point that, whilst the world of rasikas may be small, the world of rasikas.org is even smaller.
There is another dimension too, maybe it fits in this category, maybe it is separate. I am thinking of the musicians, especially seniors, who are to be found supporting other musicians
It's a good point that, whilst the world of rasikas may be small, the world of rasikas.org is even smaller.
There is another dimension too, maybe it fits in this category, maybe it is separate. I am thinking of the musicians, especially seniors, who are to be found supporting other musicians
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mankuthimma
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
Good , that I got a chance quite early to state my position . No Thanks . I do not consider myself worthy of awards or titles and so I am not a candidate . Either now or in the future .It would be interesting to have Sri.Mankuthimma's views on this as well.
My work has not been a selfless one either . I have improved a immensely in the process . Today , the more I give , More is what I get .
Having said this much I will vote for somebody , if it comes to that .
How I wish I could vote for a motion that would call DRS, Meena , Badri and take us back to that glorious period !!
I should guess that it will take only one mail from the admin to them with their new passwords - to make them change their minds.
kssr - I may not know you .But Thanks for all your words . I can only pay you back by hosting you at the nearest pub in Blore or offer my palms to you for a good reading , in the company of b'lore rasikaorgites- Whichever suits you.
Internet , music and rasikas.org has been a fascinating tool for understanding / preserving this heritage .
Personally , this work has helped me avoid going down under the crushing burden caused by loss due to Cancer , Pain , Disability and a few dimensions to wretchednessof today's value systems.
Needless to say , the friends that I still entertain today , are only the ones involved with Music
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arasi
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
I don't want to name names for the title because all the names mentioned so far merit the award in one way or the other, and there are more who in many ways desreve the recognition too. What I am trying to say is this: the contributions of many rasikAs makes this forum tick. To choose one from among them is a mighty task. The contributors are so different in their make up too, let alone their contributions. It is the combined force of many members which makes the forum what it is.
What is it that each rasikA looks for mostly in this forum? He or she would vote for the one who provides it. Will it cover the other vital features the rest of the rasikAs look for? Let's suppose this award is going to be an annual affair. Even then,only a handful among the many worthy rasikAs can be honored this way.
One thing I can say for sure is that I am clearly not a candidate for it! If the number of posts (however inane sometimes) count, I may qualify (which I don't particularly wish to).
I feel that contributors (who share knowledge and music), reviewers, performers who share their thoughts and reviews of concerts with us, and those silent forces (and actively participating members as well) are the components of this wonderful forum. As far as I am concerned, all the names mentioned would be my choices too, and more! It's like asking me to choose my best friend among my good friends! I still hold that it is the combined contributions of many members--from teenagers to those of us in our twilight years that make thiis forum what it is.
Very nice of Mudhra to offer to host this event. Again, another proof that even organizers are interested in what rasikAs have to say--which reminds me: no one mentioned the name of the man who makes it all possible for us to meet here and to carry on as if this forum is part of our own lives?
Lakshman and DRS have been given the Rasikapriya award which is a similar award to recognize super rasikAs. They are two very different individuals (this emphasizes my point about the different forces that maks RasikAs strong)--DRS's scholarship and creative force, to name a few of his qualities. Lakshman fwith his tireless, long years of collecting, and sharing lyrics merely for the asking, may it be a vidvan, a teen age newbie or rasikAs like us.
Waiting to hear from others
What is it that each rasikA looks for mostly in this forum? He or she would vote for the one who provides it. Will it cover the other vital features the rest of the rasikAs look for? Let's suppose this award is going to be an annual affair. Even then,only a handful among the many worthy rasikAs can be honored this way.
One thing I can say for sure is that I am clearly not a candidate for it! If the number of posts (however inane sometimes) count, I may qualify (which I don't particularly wish to).
I feel that contributors (who share knowledge and music), reviewers, performers who share their thoughts and reviews of concerts with us, and those silent forces (and actively participating members as well) are the components of this wonderful forum. As far as I am concerned, all the names mentioned would be my choices too, and more! It's like asking me to choose my best friend among my good friends! I still hold that it is the combined contributions of many members--from teenagers to those of us in our twilight years that make thiis forum what it is.
Very nice of Mudhra to offer to host this event. Again, another proof that even organizers are interested in what rasikAs have to say--which reminds me: no one mentioned the name of the man who makes it all possible for us to meet here and to carry on as if this forum is part of our own lives?
Lakshman and DRS have been given the Rasikapriya award which is a similar award to recognize super rasikAs. They are two very different individuals (this emphasizes my point about the different forces that maks RasikAs strong)--DRS's scholarship and creative force, to name a few of his qualities. Lakshman fwith his tireless, long years of collecting, and sharing lyrics merely for the asking, may it be a vidvan, a teen age newbie or rasikAs like us.
Waiting to hear from others
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kssr
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
Saar, I have a doubt saar. Can we get Thayir saadam theremankuthimma wrote: I can only pay you back by hosting you at the nearest pub in Blore .
There are already four suggested names. Good beginning. Can Mankuthimma talk to the admin and try to get them to activate the dormant good old rasikas? Ours is not a great ideological platform. It is just a hobby club. No one need to keep away for any reason for long periods. Hope everyone comes back and participate.
Should we announce a rejoining award!!
Are the mods/admin of rasikas opposed to the idea of an award for the best among the forumites. If so they can mention it. No harm. (Yes. I would prefer it to be kept among the forumites. Otherwise I feel it becomes very unwieldy to handle. Alternatively if the admin is opposed to the idea, we should choose some kind of a subset of the rasika community to make it reasonably viable.).
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kssr
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
I was waiting for arasi's view of it. Very interesting point. Indeed , as it does not involve much of a cost, we can have a few categories- Rasika Siromani 2010- music knowledge, Rasika Siromani 2010- No. of reviews, RS- No. of posts, RS- support in propagation of CM( like Sri.Mankuthimma) (or RS- Age
) and so on. A bouquet each and a place where we meet and exchange notes and get to know personally others who have contributed to CM through the forum. Yes. Why not?
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vasanthakokilam
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
kssr, I do not think you need the blessing of the mods/admins or you need them to coordinate this.. If this is worked out among the members, that will be ideal. The mods/admins, the janitorial section of this orchestra, can also pitch in their ideas as regular members of the forum. (There may be some strawman issues of whether this is officially from rasikas.org or not but that is not worth much.). If other mods/admin have different point of view, please feel free to express it here.
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arasi
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
Spoken like a dutiful Jan 
kssr,
Yes, the award after all is for the forum!
The special Tea itself will be a treat for those who are able to attend, representing the forum.
kssr,
Yes, the award after all is for the forum!
The special Tea itself will be a treat for those who are able to attend, representing the forum.
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kssr
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
The problem obviously is "Who is to taken the final decision about the candidate?" There cannot be a decision taken by hundreds of members as many of the forumites may not even be reading this thread. May I now suggest that a group consisting of vasanthakokilam, arasi, rajeshnat and radha bhaskar to take a decision and we will accept it. They can take in a few more into the core decision making group, if necessary. What says you?
If mankuthimma is not accepting it this year, my forceful suggestion is srkris without whom we will not be discussing this in this forum. Pls. comment.
If mankuthimma is not accepting it this year, my forceful suggestion is srkris without whom we will not be discussing this in this forum. Pls. comment.
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ragam-talam
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
Kind of like 'Who will bell the cat?' perhaps...The problem obviously is "Who is to taken the final decision about the candidate?"
Why don't we have 2 siromanis for the inaugural year? A he- and a she- siromani would be good.
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cmlover
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Re: Title of Rasika Siromani
While I appreciate your enthusiasm and the outpouring of support I have a few reservations.
IMHO for us at the adminstration all of you are Rasika Siromanis. There are no preferred customers; nor should our administration propose or endorse any particular candidate. We respect and appreciate all your contributions big or small since each of you are helping this Forum maintain its excellence; except for a few blacksheeep who turn up from time to time to disrupt and distract our progress and to the best of our ability (with youd kind cooperation) we weed them out.
If you decide to honour anybody it has to be a private affair and should not appear to have been done by Rasikas.org. Further there will never be unanimity among our membership and we will not permit any schism among our Forum membership. Again already there is the mechanism called 'Sangitapriya award' to which most of our members too belong and the nominations and recognitions can be performed through that mechanism. In fact our DRS and Lakshman ji were recognized and honoured through that mechanism which is still vibrant (note that the latest Manjunath is equally a valuable Forum member). Again you do not know the valuable contributions of our older members some of whom are now dormant. Also note that most of our valuable contributers do so selflessly without seeking any recognition or awards (Thimma is a glorious example!). The best way of showing your gratitude is to thank them as and when you like and try to contribute your best for our Forum Community.
Service is its own Reward
IMHO for us at the adminstration all of you are Rasika Siromanis. There are no preferred customers; nor should our administration propose or endorse any particular candidate. We respect and appreciate all your contributions big or small since each of you are helping this Forum maintain its excellence; except for a few blacksheeep who turn up from time to time to disrupt and distract our progress and to the best of our ability (with youd kind cooperation) we weed them out.
If you decide to honour anybody it has to be a private affair and should not appear to have been done by Rasikas.org. Further there will never be unanimity among our membership and we will not permit any schism among our Forum membership. Again already there is the mechanism called 'Sangitapriya award' to which most of our members too belong and the nominations and recognitions can be performed through that mechanism. In fact our DRS and Lakshman ji were recognized and honoured through that mechanism which is still vibrant (note that the latest Manjunath is equally a valuable Forum member). Again you do not know the valuable contributions of our older members some of whom are now dormant. Also note that most of our valuable contributers do so selflessly without seeking any recognition or awards (Thimma is a glorious example!). The best way of showing your gratitude is to thank them as and when you like and try to contribute your best for our Forum Community.
Service is its own Reward