Idu Bhagya (V?)idu Bhagya - Req for Lyrics, Ragam, Talam...

[Sundar Krishnan]

Hello, [dt : 2nd May, 2010]

Could someone pl send me the complete, exact Lyrics, Ragam and Talam info of this song by PD.

When I listened to this song in :
Album of Kannada Songs by Balamurali Krishna : mio://play/183083 :
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/#/album ... ee_Vol_52/

I thought, I could hear Idu Bhagya, (V?)idu Bhagya - ie, the 2nd time, it sounded as if BMK pronounced it as (V?)idu ??
If true, could someone pl let me know the meaning of "(V?)idu". Thanks.

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If the Ragam for the above song is Kapi [ie, if atleast one of the Ragams that this song is often sung in, is Kapi], I would like to know if it is :
Dhana-kApi OR
HindhustAni kApi OR
KarnAtaka kApi

Also, pl confirm if the "default" Kapi - ie, when we say "Kapi Ragam" without any prefix, it is "HindhustAni kApi", that we are referring to ?? Thanks.

However, if there is any difference between Kapi and "HindhustAni kApi", pl let me know the Arohanam / Avarahonam difference (Ar / Av in short henceforth) between the 2 Ragams, and also any other special diffs. Thanks.

If this song can be sung in some other Ragam(s) / Talam(s) too, pl let me know the other Ragams as well. Thanks.

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[Lakshman]

idu bhAgyavidu. rAgA: kAmbhOji. jhampe tALA.

P: idu bhAgyavidu bhAgyavidu bhAgyavayya padumanAbhana pAda bhajane sukhavayya
C1: kallAgi irabEku kaThina bhavadoreyoLage billAgi irabEku ballavaroLu
mellane mAdhavana manadi meccisa bEku bellavAgira bEku bandhu janaroLage
2: buddiyali tanu manava tiddi koLLalu bEku muddAga bEku muniyOgigaLige
madhva matAbdhiyoLu mInAgiralu bEku suddhanAgira bEku karaNa trayagaLali
3: viSaya bhOgada trNake uriyAgiralu bEku nishi hagalu shrI hariya neneya bEku
vasudEsha purandara rAyana hasanAda dAsaranu sEvisalu bEku

[Sundar Krishnan]

[Dt : 8th May, 2010]

Based on Shri Lakshman's advice, I have posted the recorded Audio clip of this song in sendspace - the Link url is :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ua4ucn

I request music experts who may be interested to listen to this audio, and offer their opinion on the Ragam etc, to kindly download the song soon - because I will keep the above link active for download for say, another 2 - 3 days only.

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Shri Lakshman,

Thanks for the lyrics.

You have stated that the Ragam is Kambhoji.

However, I am not sure of the Ragam in the attached Audio clip (link url given above).

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If the Ragam in the above Audio Clip is Kapi ??, I would like to know if it is :

Dhana-kApi OR
HindhustAni kApi OR
KarnAtaka kApi

Also, pl confirm if in general, the "default" Kapi - ie, when we say "Kapi Ragam" without any prefix, it is "HindhustAni kApi ??", that we are referring to ?? Thanks.

However, if there is any difference between Kapi and "HindhustAni kApi", pl let me know the Arohanam / Avarahonam difference (Ar / Av in short henceforth) between the 2 Ragams, and also any other special diffs. Thanks.

If this song can be sung in some other Ragam(s) / Talam(s) too, pl let me know the other Ragams as well. Thanks.

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Shri Lakshman,

Yr Ragam and Talam names seem to "almost" coincide with :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3081149/Dasa-Sahitya
However, this link states the Ragam as Kambhoja.
Pl let me know if there is any diff betn Kambhoji and Kambhoja ??

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However, other urls state :

http://ego.randomwalk.in/blog/page/2/ :
... Next they sang Purandaradasa’s Idu Bhagya Idu Bhagya in Raga Poorya Dhanashri ?

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thsc ... 7/&prd=fr& :
He elaborated “Idu Bhagya Idu Bhagya” (Pantuvarali ??-Purandaradasa) with dedication, ...

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Further, In my past Old notes, I can now observe that I had remarked on this song thus :

... has sung this in Brindavani / Khanda Chapu ?? - seems rather odd now ! ? ; may be a wrong noting for another song ?

... Ragamalikai ?? : 1st in MalayaMarutham type ?? -> then Mohanam ?? -> finally Hindolam ??

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Thus, can some music expert list out ALL the possible Ragams & Taalams in which this song is sung by expert singers these days ?

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[Lakshman]

Purandaradasa's songs (as well as songs of other dasas) can be sung in any raga as tuned by the musician.

[Sundar Krishnan]

But, Shri Lakshman and other Musician Experts,

What is the Ragam in the Audio Clip that I uploaded in sendspace ? :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ua4ucn

I ask again :

Is it Kapi ?

If yes, which Kapi :

Dhana-kApi OR
HindhustAni kApi OR
KarnAtaka kApi ??

Also, pl confirm if in general, the "default" Kapi - ie, when we say "Kapi Ragam" without any prefix, it is "HindhustAni kApi ??", that we are referring to ?? Thanks.

However, if there is any difference between Kapi and "HindhustAni kApi", pl let me know the Arohanam / Avarahonam difference (Ar / Av in short henceforth) between the 2 Ragams, and also any other special diffs. Thanks.

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PS : I have a few Audio Clips where I would like help in identifying the Ragam (or Ragams as in a Ragamalika) ie, I would like singing Musician Experts (also) to have a look at them.

The query is NOT on lyrics - it is on identifying the Ragam(s) and the Taalam.

Should such Ragam-Identification-Requests queries be posted in this Thread on "Sahitya & Identification Requests" :
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=11
OR
in the other Thread on "Raaga and Alapana" :
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=7

I request the Admin / Moderator to either copy such Ragam-Identification-Requests in both the Threads, or move them to the more appropriate Thread.

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[aaaaabbbbb]

Sundar Krishnanji,There is a bit of kannada grammar in this pronounciation.Idu Bhaagya + Idu Bhaagya lets in a new letter,"vi'.so it is sung as 'Idu Bhaagyavidu Bhaagyavidu Bhaagyavayya'.It can be pronounced seperately as"Idu Bhaagya Idu Bhaagya Idu Bhaagyavayya' too But the words seem unconnected.

[Sundar Krishnan]

29/10/10

Thanks "aaaaabbbbb".
I should have noted this grammar myself !

I saw yr reply only today, hence the delay.

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But what about the exact Ragam name query ?
I repeat :
Is it Kapi ?
If yes, which Kapi :

Dhana-kApi OR
HindhustAni kApi OR
KarnAtaka kApi ??

Also, pl confirm if in general, the "default" Kapi - ie, when we say "Kapi Ragam" without any prefix, it is "HindhustAni kApi ??", that we are referring to ?? Thanks.

It should not matter even if the Audio is not present anymore in the sendspace site.

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[Lakshman]

The audio link you posted gives an error message.

[Sundar Krishnan]

29/10/10
Pl refer to Msg #3 of this thread : It was on 8th May 10 that I posted the Audio in sendspace.
After retaining it there for about a month, I deleted the file.

Like the above song, I posted around the same time, Audio recordings of so many other Songs / Ragamalikas !, for which I wanted confirmation of the correct Ragam, or the correct chronological sequence of Ragams - unfortunately, knowledgable people did not reply to most (almost 99 %) of them !

Now, even without the Audio (see Msg #7), I hope, it should still be possible to reply to :

a) in general, does the the "default" Kapi Ragam imply automatically, HindustAni kApi ?
ie, pl confirm if in general, the "default" Kapi is "HindhustAni kApi" - ie, when we say "Kapi Ragam" without any prefix, it is "HindhustAni kApi ??", that we are referring to ??

b) What is the Ragam of this same song in this link :
Album of Kannada Songs by Balamurali Krishna :
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/#/album ... ee_Vol_52/ -> [url]mio://play/183083[/url]

Thanks

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[Lakshman]

karuNAkara nI is in dhanyAsi rAgA.

[Sundar Krishnan]

30/10/10

Shri Lakshman,

We are discussing here only wrt Idu Bhagya Idu Bhagya ... song, even though the Album itself may be named "Karunakara Nee Vol 52" etc.

So, in the website :
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/#/album ... ee_Vol_52/,
you need to click on the link for Idu Bhagya Idu Bhagya ... song :
[url]command://play/Bc_Uk7HPh46[/url]

{the old MIO link for this song had the format : [url]mio://play/183083[/url] }

In addition to Ragam, I would like to know the Taalam details also pl.

Anyway, thanks for informing that karuNAkara nI is in dhanyAsi rAgA.

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[vasanthakokilam]

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/#/album ... ee_Vol_52/,
you need to click on the link for Idu Bhagya Idu Bhagya ... song :

raga: kalyani, thala: Kanda chapu

( can also be misra jampa, that also fist the laya structure but from how the mridangist is playing, they seem to be keeping the kanda chapu kriya for this rendition)

[Sundar Krishnan]

Thanks for Raagam and Taalam of this song.

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