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some news about pain killer and rAga
Music Therapy
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sunayanaa
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Let us make everyone's life simple. here it is:
ANANDA BHAIRAVI AS PAIN KILLER
Coimbatore, Sept. 25 (NMG)- It is a proven fact that music can bring rains, make flowers bloom and calm down human beings and animals. Now it can also reduce pain.
A hospital here is planning to prove this by scientific research. Music is being used here as an additional treatment procedure.
The Medical College Hospital here is playing music for its patients. Speakers are installed in every ward and music is played from 6 pm everyday. The music is being controlled from a room in the hospital.
Violin recital is being played at the beginning of the session everyday. According to doctors, the patients used to become angry in the beginning when music was channelled to their rooms, but now they will be angry if it is stopped. This shows the power of music, they opine.
Raag Ananda Bhairavi and Karnatak music are being played and the results are said to be amazing. It is said, patients who were listening to music while undergoing surgery needed less anaesthesia and after the surgery they were said to have experienced less pain.
ANANDA BHAIRAVI AS PAIN KILLER
Coimbatore, Sept. 25 (NMG)- It is a proven fact that music can bring rains, make flowers bloom and calm down human beings and animals. Now it can also reduce pain.
A hospital here is planning to prove this by scientific research. Music is being used here as an additional treatment procedure.
The Medical College Hospital here is playing music for its patients. Speakers are installed in every ward and music is played from 6 pm everyday. The music is being controlled from a room in the hospital.
Violin recital is being played at the beginning of the session everyday. According to doctors, the patients used to become angry in the beginning when music was channelled to their rooms, but now they will be angry if it is stopped. This shows the power of music, they opine.
Raag Ananda Bhairavi and Karnatak music are being played and the results are said to be amazing. It is said, patients who were listening to music while undergoing surgery needed less anaesthesia and after the surgery they were said to have experienced less pain.
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sunayanaa
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A related article:
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Music may be the best medication
Tuesday September 26 2006 20:46 IST
ANI
WASHINGTON: Anaesthesia may help to numb the area so that a patient can’t feel the surgeon’s knife, but it seems that music is the medication that can help them relax when faced with painful invasive procedures such as colonoscopy.
A new double-blind study by doctors at Temple University in Philadelphia has found that patients who plug into their favourite tunes during a colonoscopy procedure may be able to relax enough to require less sedation, without sacrificing comfort.
The findings support other research that has shown music reduces anxiety before surgical procedures.
Taking part in the study were 44 female and 29 male volunteers who either brought music from home or choose from a selection of available CDs.
Before the procedure, ear buds were taped to all of the participants' ears and volume set to be audible to only the patient.
The researchers found that those patients who listened to music required less sedation, yet comfort levels did not suffer when they reported the levels as those receiving the higher amounts of sedation.
Benjamin Krevsky, M.D., M.P.H., the lead author of the study and director of gastrointestinal endoscopy at Temple University Hospital said that offering music to patients "makes sense"
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Music may be the best medication
Tuesday September 26 2006 20:46 IST
ANI
WASHINGTON: Anaesthesia may help to numb the area so that a patient can’t feel the surgeon’s knife, but it seems that music is the medication that can help them relax when faced with painful invasive procedures such as colonoscopy.
A new double-blind study by doctors at Temple University in Philadelphia has found that patients who plug into their favourite tunes during a colonoscopy procedure may be able to relax enough to require less sedation, without sacrificing comfort.
The findings support other research that has shown music reduces anxiety before surgical procedures.
Taking part in the study were 44 female and 29 male volunteers who either brought music from home or choose from a selection of available CDs.
Before the procedure, ear buds were taped to all of the participants' ears and volume set to be audible to only the patient.
The researchers found that those patients who listened to music required less sedation, yet comfort levels did not suffer when they reported the levels as those receiving the higher amounts of sedation.
Benjamin Krevsky, M.D., M.P.H., the lead author of the study and director of gastrointestinal endoscopy at Temple University Hospital said that offering music to patients "makes sense"
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cmlover
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Such studies have very little value! Here is one showing a negative (Null) effect
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15183429
asti cEt asti, nAsti cEt nAsti|
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15183429
The results depend on the psychological makeup of the individual patient !Conclusions: Music has little influence on patients' experience of gastrointestinal endoscopy.
asti cEt asti, nAsti cEt nAsti|
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vasanthakokilam
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cmlover
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VK
I meant 'No effect' since the word 'NULL' has to be understood in the statistical context. The paper does not report the 'power' but the sample size is not bad! I did once a 'meta anlysis' on placebo effects in the context of 'psychiatric medications for depression' and found that it is a whopping 30%. In my view music falls in that category! For many of us 'Indians' stotras or meditation would produce almost an equivalent effect. I have heard that Bhagavan Ramana underwent surgery without any anaesthetic just saying 'idam na mama' (this body is not me).
I meant 'No effect' since the word 'NULL' has to be understood in the statistical context. The paper does not report the 'power' but the sample size is not bad! I did once a 'meta anlysis' on placebo effects in the context of 'psychiatric medications for depression' and found that it is a whopping 30%. In my view music falls in that category! For many of us 'Indians' stotras or meditation would produce almost an equivalent effect. I have heard that Bhagavan Ramana underwent surgery without any anaesthetic just saying 'idam na mama' (this body is not me).
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jayaram
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Interesting stuff on music therapy...
http://www.the-south-asian.com/Aug2002/ ... herapy.htm
Excerpts:
Healing Ragas
Practitioners of Carnatic and Hindustani music were fully aware of the power and influence of the ragas as a balm for the mind. " Some ragas such as Darbari-Kanhara, Khamaj and Pooriya were strongly recommended by ancient vaids for defusing tension of the mind, particularly during episodes of hysteria" says Sairam.
Hypertension is another health ailment that responds positively to music. Ragas such as Ahirbhairav and Todi have been recommended for patients with high blood pressure. On the other hand, low blood pressure is healed with the feminine Raga Malkauns, believed to have supernatural energy.
Control over anger and inner violence, according to Sairam, can be attained with the use of Carnatic ragas such Punnagavarali and Sahana. Even stomach-related disorders can be settled through ragas from the Hindustani system---Raga Deepak for acidity, Gunakali and Jaunpuri for constipation, Mian ki Malhar and Darbari Kanada for Chronic asthma, Bhairavi for Sinusitis, Todi and Poorvi for Headache and anxiety, and Kafi and Khamaj for Sleep disorders are tested Raga therapies.
High fevers, says Sairam, such as malaria have been arrested through Hindol and Marva ragas. Headaches can be banished by any of the three ragas--Darbari-Kanhara, Jayjaywanti or Sohan. Insomniacs will be lulled to sleep by Bageshri and Darbari ragas.
Sairam’s 10-Point Music Therapy
1. Listen with your heart and not just your mind.
2. Enjoy music. Don’t analyze it.
3. Listen to good music for about 15 minutes four times a day.
4. Make driving, eating, bathing or cooking more enjoyable with music.
5. Never listen to music on an empty stomach.
6. Actual singing or playing a raga is preferable to passive listening.
7. Learn to play a musical instrument.
8. Get children into the habit of listening to music.
9. Always have gentle, soothing music playing around a sick person.
10. Have a good music library at home.
Points 2 and 6 above may be of special interest to this group!
http://www.the-south-asian.com/Aug2002/ ... herapy.htm
Excerpts:
Healing Ragas
Practitioners of Carnatic and Hindustani music were fully aware of the power and influence of the ragas as a balm for the mind. " Some ragas such as Darbari-Kanhara, Khamaj and Pooriya were strongly recommended by ancient vaids for defusing tension of the mind, particularly during episodes of hysteria" says Sairam.
Hypertension is another health ailment that responds positively to music. Ragas such as Ahirbhairav and Todi have been recommended for patients with high blood pressure. On the other hand, low blood pressure is healed with the feminine Raga Malkauns, believed to have supernatural energy.
Control over anger and inner violence, according to Sairam, can be attained with the use of Carnatic ragas such Punnagavarali and Sahana. Even stomach-related disorders can be settled through ragas from the Hindustani system---Raga Deepak for acidity, Gunakali and Jaunpuri for constipation, Mian ki Malhar and Darbari Kanada for Chronic asthma, Bhairavi for Sinusitis, Todi and Poorvi for Headache and anxiety, and Kafi and Khamaj for Sleep disorders are tested Raga therapies.
High fevers, says Sairam, such as malaria have been arrested through Hindol and Marva ragas. Headaches can be banished by any of the three ragas--Darbari-Kanhara, Jayjaywanti or Sohan. Insomniacs will be lulled to sleep by Bageshri and Darbari ragas.
Sairam’s 10-Point Music Therapy
1. Listen with your heart and not just your mind.
2. Enjoy music. Don’t analyze it.
3. Listen to good music for about 15 minutes four times a day.
4. Make driving, eating, bathing or cooking more enjoyable with music.
5. Never listen to music on an empty stomach.
6. Actual singing or playing a raga is preferable to passive listening.
7. Learn to play a musical instrument.
8. Get children into the habit of listening to music.
9. Always have gentle, soothing music playing around a sick person.
10. Have a good music library at home.
Points 2 and 6 above may be of special interest to this group!
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ramakriya
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What about the enjoyment one gets by analyzing?jayaram wrote:1. Listen with your heart and not just your mind.
2. Enjoy music. Don’t analyze it.
3. Listen to good music for about 15 minutes four times a day.
4. Make driving, eating, bathing or cooking more enjoyable with music.
5. Never listen to music on an empty stomach.
6. Actual singing or playing a raga is preferable to passive listening.
7. Learn to play a musical instrument.
8. Get children into the habit of listening to music.
9. Always have gentle, soothing music playing around a sick person.
10. Have a good music library at home.
Points 2 and 6 above may be of special interest to this group!
-Ramakriya
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rajajisrinivasan
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Check out konnakol by Lori @ http://loricotler.com/
Lori's lifelong interest in the psychology of music led her to pursue graduate studies at New York University, where she earned a Masters Degree and Certification in Music Therapy. She has worked extensively as a certified music therapist in hospitals and clinics with such populations as adolescent/adult psychiatry, autism/aspergers, AIDS, brain injured, cerebral palsy, learning disabled and at-risk teens.
Lori's lifelong interest in the psychology of music led her to pursue graduate studies at New York University, where she earned a Masters Degree and Certification in Music Therapy. She has worked extensively as a certified music therapist in hospitals and clinics with such populations as adolescent/adult psychiatry, autism/aspergers, AIDS, brain injured, cerebral palsy, learning disabled and at-risk teens.
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rshankar
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http://www.kutcheribuzz.com/news/200610 ... hmusic.asp
Now, if only this was done in a controlled, and a (single) blinded fashion: with either white noise or another rAgam piped into the patient's head phones with the doctor being unaware of what the patient is listening to, and then comparing results at the end would have made the study much more powerful. Anyway, this is a great step away from anecdotal medicine, and may form the preliminary data for a more 'controlled' later study.
Ravi
Now, if only this was done in a controlled, and a (single) blinded fashion: with either white noise or another rAgam piped into the patient's head phones with the doctor being unaware of what the patient is listening to, and then comparing results at the end would have made the study much more powerful. Anyway, this is a great step away from anecdotal medicine, and may form the preliminary data for a more 'controlled' later study.
Ravi
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jayaram
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I believe there's another way in which music (and CM in particular) is a big healer. I am always amazed by the number of kritis CM musicians can master and remember. (I can't even remember my home tel number! 
) I believe this ability keeps them in good stead in their old age. I found Manakkal's mind to be razor sharp when he was recently here in London - and he is 83. So perhaps a good way to prevent the onset of Alzheimer's etc. is to learn lots of CM kritis - and keep singing them!
) I believe this ability keeps them in good stead in their old age. I found Manakkal's mind to be razor sharp when he was recently here in London - and he is 83. So perhaps a good way to prevent the onset of Alzheimer's etc. is to learn lots of CM kritis - and keep singing them!-
jayaram
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http://www.carnaticindia.com/therapy.html
This site mentions the following:
This site mentions the following:
Anyone has more info on this?The Appolo hospital group, the largest of its kind in Asia is now having a Medical Music Therapy course and obviously, it is the first of its kind in asia.
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ragam-talam
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Interesting article:
http://www.iicdelhi.nic.in/program/prog ... 7&CatgId=1
"Of the two hemispheres of the brain, the left half is supposed to engage in analysis and the right one in emotional states of being. Both are equally important. Indian music ideally seeks to bring about a synthesis of the two modes. The mridangam, for example, can denote a mathematical range of 108 talas in myriad combinations and permutations, thus applying to the left hemispherical calculations of the brain. Ragas can be conducive to the right hemisphere. The two halves get naturally harmonized, like trapeze artists in a fine synchronization of thinking and feeling, as was the desired objective of ancient Indian yoga systems."
Also: "‘Feminine’ ragas played with ‘Masculine’ instruments, have a positive effect on the mind."
http://www.iicdelhi.nic.in/program/prog ... 7&CatgId=1
"Of the two hemispheres of the brain, the left half is supposed to engage in analysis and the right one in emotional states of being. Both are equally important. Indian music ideally seeks to bring about a synthesis of the two modes. The mridangam, for example, can denote a mathematical range of 108 talas in myriad combinations and permutations, thus applying to the left hemispherical calculations of the brain. Ragas can be conducive to the right hemisphere. The two halves get naturally harmonized, like trapeze artists in a fine synchronization of thinking and feeling, as was the desired objective of ancient Indian yoga systems."
Also: "‘Feminine’ ragas played with ‘Masculine’ instruments, have a positive effect on the mind."
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venkatakailasam
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Re: Music Therapy
The therapeutic effect of music is widely discussed. Violin exponent Kunnakkudi Vaidyanathan highlights the qualities of a few ragas. at this link:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2 ... 360600.htm
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2 ... 360600.htm
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venkatakailasam
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Re: Music Therapy
Providing musical notations for sounds of human body
Ramya Kannan
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/27/stories ... 571000.htm
venkatakailasam
Ramya Kannan
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/27/stories ... 571000.htm
venkatakailasam
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vasanthakokilam
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Re: Music Therapy
Thanks venkatakailasam.
"..Once the sounds of the heart have been written down in the language of Carnatic music, the researchers will proceed downwards to respiratory and gastrointestinal systems...."
So he wants to document body sounds using CM notation.. Both melody and rhythm? CM is really not that good with notations though
I was intrigued by Ramya Krishnan writing that these human body sounds have been notated using western notation. I briefly searched for any references to it but could not find it. I wish Hindu publishes the email id of their correspondents ( Ramya Krishnan in this case ) in the article itself, so we can ask these questions. I have not searched the main Hindu site.
"..Once the sounds of the heart have been written down in the language of Carnatic music, the researchers will proceed downwards to respiratory and gastrointestinal systems...."
So he wants to document body sounds using CM notation.. Both melody and rhythm? CM is really not that good with notations though
I was intrigued by Ramya Krishnan writing that these human body sounds have been notated using western notation. I briefly searched for any references to it but could not find it. I wish Hindu publishes the email id of their correspondents ( Ramya Krishnan in this case ) in the article itself, so we can ask these questions. I have not searched the main Hindu site.
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venkatakailasam
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Re: Music Therapy
Shri vk: It is Ramya kannan not krishnan
You can try at:
http://www.yacm.in/ec.html
She is the treasure of The Youth association for classical music.
She has contributed to The Hindu on various topics. she seems to be a student of Smt. Sugantha kalamegam.
e mail address provided there in.
This may be useful for people who are technically sound like you at notation system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_no ... onventions
and also http://wn.com/Music_notation-Video explanation
venkatakailasam
You can try at:
http://www.yacm.in/ec.html
She is the treasure of The Youth association for classical music.
She has contributed to The Hindu on various topics. she seems to be a student of Smt. Sugantha kalamegam.
e mail address provided there in.
This may be useful for people who are technically sound like you at notation system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_no ... onventions
and also http://wn.com/Music_notation-Video explanation
venkatakailasam
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sramesh
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Re: Music Therapy
nowadays children seems to be more depressed because of lack of patience and weaker mind due to the quality of diet or diet habits, in almost all the schools they are advised to listen healthy music, yoga and healthy diet, but it is indeed that if we could listen vocal concert of MS Madam or film song by Shri K. J. Jesudas like Ammavendrazhaikkada we felt immersed and forget the whole world so I trust definitely some positive power in good Music and the negetive power in some love songs of modern film too.
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munirao2001
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Re: Music Therapy
Coolkarni
I would like to share my experiments with Facts(not truths!). I have only one Child-Apeksha(the desired one), who is differently abled -afflicted with Cerebral Palsy(85% degree) and Arthrogyphosis.
Music effects on the Brain. Harvard Medical School/University with Keating Hospital, in the US of A, had researched and published about the effects of Church/Religious Music on the Brain. The results shown that Dopamine is generated by the listening, creating the pleasure, akin to the effects of meditation/spiritual feelings. Classical Music is proven to accelerate the destressing and calming effects. In afflicted persons, the challenge is to keep them interested in listening activity. All the other effects are purely placebo effects and mythical.
My father, late Sandhyavandanam Srinivasa Rao, a doyen of music, had advised me that all claims of miracles are untruths. Face the challenge with knowledge of the Brahman-the Reality, with equanimity and do dharmic actions for the Jiva, to live, with least discomfort or suffering-physical and psychological.
This is in brevity. When we meet, we can go in to details. Deep Love to your Son
I would like to share my experiments with Facts(not truths!). I have only one Child-Apeksha(the desired one), who is differently abled -afflicted with Cerebral Palsy(85% degree) and Arthrogyphosis.
Music effects on the Brain. Harvard Medical School/University with Keating Hospital, in the US of A, had researched and published about the effects of Church/Religious Music on the Brain. The results shown that Dopamine is generated by the listening, creating the pleasure, akin to the effects of meditation/spiritual feelings. Classical Music is proven to accelerate the destressing and calming effects. In afflicted persons, the challenge is to keep them interested in listening activity. All the other effects are purely placebo effects and mythical.
My father, late Sandhyavandanam Srinivasa Rao, a doyen of music, had advised me that all claims of miracles are untruths. Face the challenge with knowledge of the Brahman-the Reality, with equanimity and do dharmic actions for the Jiva, to live, with least discomfort or suffering-physical and psychological.
This is in brevity. When we meet, we can go in to details. Deep Love to your Son
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msakella
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Re: Music Therapy
In this respect I also would like to bring out the following interesting details about which I came across very recently.
One of my friends, Mr. B.E.Kamalkumar, Jayanagar, Bangalore (080-26584905, M-9448431603) is used to teach many of my rhythmical exercises (furnished in 287th post of the AMS Easy Methods-2007-Teaching/Learning Methods of the main thread ‘Music School’) to his disciples at Bangalore. He had one student, Varshini of 7 years old, being the daughter of Sri Reddaiah Naidu and Smt.Hemalatha (9901949890 & 9880647181) and her right hand had become inactive due to some physical stroke when she was even a baby. Recently, when Kamalkumar had started initiating her to render the different rhythmical exercises with both her hands, surprisingly, her right-hand had also become active gradually to the long cherished relief of both the aspirant and her parents. This incident obviously reveals the therapeutic value of these rhythmical exercises to the aspirants of music. amsharma
One of my friends, Mr. B.E.Kamalkumar, Jayanagar, Bangalore (080-26584905, M-9448431603) is used to teach many of my rhythmical exercises (furnished in 287th post of the AMS Easy Methods-2007-Teaching/Learning Methods of the main thread ‘Music School’) to his disciples at Bangalore. He had one student, Varshini of 7 years old, being the daughter of Sri Reddaiah Naidu and Smt.Hemalatha (9901949890 & 9880647181) and her right hand had become inactive due to some physical stroke when she was even a baby. Recently, when Kamalkumar had started initiating her to render the different rhythmical exercises with both her hands, surprisingly, her right-hand had also become active gradually to the long cherished relief of both the aspirant and her parents. This incident obviously reveals the therapeutic value of these rhythmical exercises to the aspirants of music. amsharma
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vasanthakokilam
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Re: Music Therapy
Akellaji: This is big. We need to follow up!
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VK RAMAN
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Re: Music Therapy
I feel the same way as vasanthakokilam. Thank you akellaji.
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Pratyaksham Bala
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Re: Music Therapy
For several years, I had suffered from frequent attacks of severe migraine. During those periods Sri MMI came to my rescue! I could not tolerate any sound - except Sri MMI's songs. For me, his voice was a soothing agent providing relief from the torturous migraine.
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msakella
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Re: Music Therapy
Dear brother-members, vasanthakokilam & VK RAMAN, In the first week of May I am planning to stay in Chennai for a week. Then we shall meet and plan to make the experiments. Even in the meantime if you want to try something in this respect you are welcome to discuss with me face to face on Skype ID ‘msakella2002’ between 7 & 8 am or pm on any day. amsharma