TNS at Music academy

[kachapah]

TNS, VV ravi, TK Murthy, Vaik. Gopalakrishnan
List
1. Brief invocation in Thodi on Hayagreeva followed by Era Napai - Swarams
2. Ninnu Vina - Poorvikalyani - Misra Chapu, Shyama Shastry, Ragam, Neraval, Swaram
3. Maanavu Kavalanu talli - Sahana, rupaka,H. M. Bhagavathar Neraval and Swaram at parameshwari
4. Manasuloni - Varamu, Adi, swaram at pallavi - Sounded like Hindolam. Can someone tell me the difference.
5. Kamalambaal - Kalayani, Adi, Dikshitar. ragam (Sruti bhedam to suddha dhanyasi), Neraval swaram at Nithyakalyani Kaa thyayani
6. Mohanavalli - Maanji
7. Hari Guna Gaavata - Yamen kalyani
8. Virutam with ragams Kiravani, kalyani, ranjani, Madhyamavati

Mama is a true genius. His kalyani alapane was fantastic

[Ragjay]

Manasuloni was in Hindolam,and the ragamallika had Hamirkalyani and Sree ragas.Overall a good concert but his voice did not cooperate.Harguna was not in Yamunakalyani Ragjay

[kamavardhani]

There is the KING and then there are the pretenders! Today it was the King's darbar, in full regal splendor... enough said!

[Tharangam]

Hariguna was in Maru behag.

[rbharath]

slOkam - tODi
Era nApai
ninnuvinA - poorikalyani - viloma chapu (RNS)
maanamu kaavalenu talli - sahana - rupakam - HMB (RNS)
manasuloni - hindolam (sketch, S)
kamalambam bhajare (RNST)
mohanavalli - manji - misra chapu - Kavi kunjara bharathi
hariguna gaavatha - maru behag - meera bhajan
vande mataram - slokam in keeravani, hameer kalyani, ranjani, sri

[CRama]

Thanks kacfhapah for the review. I very much wanted to attend the concert. But I gave priority for Rasikas Meet. I will catch up with TNS today in NCA.

[grsastrigal]

I was in sahAna,Hindolam and kalyAni Alpana. Propably it was not a "good" concert of the season. TNS was out of sruti many times. Even Hindolam could not come out cleanly. For me, VV Ravi saved the concert by bringing out the beauty of sahAna.

[shyamala3091]

wonderful concert by the master ! the sruthi bedam he did in kalyani (sudha dhanyasi)was amazing. Slightly he had some trouble in his voice when he started the thodi varanam. The voice did wonders after the varnam till the end of the concert. True colours of manchi was brought out in 'Mohanavalli" . Yesterday only i got to know that manchi has a swaroopam for itself which is entirely different from bhairavi . only A genius like TNS has the capability to handle manchi in such a scholarly way. It could be said that he demonstrated the intricacies of that unique raga by presenting all the prayogas in a leisurely manner. The bhava he brought out was something inexplicable.

[Tharangam]

I was in sahAna,Hindolam and kalyAni Alpana. Propably it was not a "good" concert of the season. TNS was out of sruti many times. Even Hindolam could not come out cleanly. For me, VV Ravi saved the concert by bringing out the beauty of sahAna.

It was a very good concert inspite of his sore throat. When TNS voice opened up during the kalyani alapana, it was a live demonstration of how one should sing overcoming a sore throat.His vidwat needs no evaluation for he has been performing for more than 5 decades now.He is a musician's musician and his concert recordings available all over the world stand testimony to his greatness. It is not for the sastrigals and ganapadigals to give offhanded remarks.

V.V. Ravi was not in his usual form yesterday. His sahana alapana was indeed good, no doubt. But with respect to saving the concert, any knowledgable rasika and VV Ravi himself will understand who saved whom if they had listened to the swara kalpana in Ninnuvina. Iam not giving this info to degrade anybody. But when grsastrigal could give an irresponsible statement that Ravi saved the concert, I am forced to.

By posting this, sastrigal has given a fair demo of his talent

[GNB_LGJ_PR]

4. Manasuloni - Varamu, Adi, swaram at pallavi - Sounded like Hindolam. Can someone tell me the difference.

Varamu or Shuddha Hindolam takes D2(Chatthusruthi Dhaivatham) and Hindolam takes D1(Shuddha Dhaivatham)

[kachapah]

Thank you GNB_LGJ_PR garu !!!
BTW, I got this "garu" by attending way too many Malladi Brothers' concerts

[satyabalu]

* With due respects Manji was initially looking like Ahiri ....Punnagavarali before ultimately settling @Manji.-Having listened to his impeccable "Brovavamma" before it was quite unusual of him! No doubt he is a genius- If one can produce sruti bedam despite his vioce &sruti constraints ! It was an alapana of Suddha Dhanyasi nearly for say one minute or even more.
*Is Chitta swaram normally sung in kalyani navavarnan( not listened before). Who has made it ?

[rshankar]

Sri TNS routinely sings padams from kavi kunjara bhArati's azhagar kuravanji in his concerts (the mAnji padam in this concert) - I really do wish he would sing all of them - in a comercial release, perhaps? The ones I have heard are Oh so beautiful - both from the point of view of the music as well as the lyrics (hope that did not come out like the Hugh G and Drew B film!)

[purush]

The great man was certainly not in inspiring form except for a few moments in the Kalyani alapana where he created some magical moments.

[devan]

tns doesnot have to do any sruthibedham.his sruthi itself is bedham

[mahesh3]

Is not Hari guna in Dipali raga?

[shyamala3091]

Certainly this site has become prejudiced. Few members write reviews with preconceived opinion. Yesterday I had a chance of meeting a senior musician who has crossed his 80's.I would like to share what he said "Niraya rasikal ellam sangithathai karaichu kudicha madiri ellam therinja medhaigal madiri review ezhudha arambichuta sangitham urapatta madiri than & rasikas kutcheri pidichadhu pidikkala ithanai than pesalaam aanal authoriies madiri pesa arambichutale" |(

certainly Any rasika has the right to give his opinion about a concert but they have no authority to comment on the the intricacies of raga lakshana or on the technichal niceties of carnatic music.
I understand that grsastrigal attends TNS's concert frequently only with an intention to give a destructive criticism.

As tharangam mentioned the violinist commenced the korvai in a wrong place, TNS observed it and patched up the korvai with his extraordinary mathematical brain on the spot and saved the violinist. I do not know how many of the rasikas were aware of this fact.

what does member satyabalu tries to convey? 'sir do you mean that TNS's manji sounded like ahiri initially :^)"
It is obvious now that the member is uncertain regarding the identity of two ragas. Ahiri and manji are not allied ragas and has no similarity in any prayoga and hats off to the great musician who brought its identity with all its essence. If Mr.satyabalu is adept in ragalakshana kindly let him demonstrate the same.

Musicians like TNS is a veritable treasure to carntic music world, he is the only musician who performs with extraordinary manodharma and in today's situation where the music has become diluted in many ways he is a unique musician who performs with proficiency competency and extraordinary manodharma confining to traditio

[Tharangam]

I think Kalyanaraman sir sings it in Dipali. TNS sir sings in Maru behag only.

[Tharangam]

Chittaswaram is sung in the Tirunelveli (Kallidaikuruchi) tradition for Kamalambam. This particular type of chitaswaram is called vikatakavi chittaswaram. That is if you rearrange from left to right you get the same swara pattern.( ofcourse this is for people who are not familiar with it)
Have heard from reliable sources that Sri .TNS has learnt quite a few Dikshitar krithis from the great Ramalinga Bhagavathar.

[narayan]

Is Chitta swaram normally sung in kalyani navavarna (not listened before). Who has made it ?

Appears to be the original composer himself. It is there in the Sangita Sampradaya Pradarsini
http://www.ibiblio.org/guruguha/ssp.htm
in volume three, and also in A Sundaram Iyer's book as Tharangam has mentioned.

The cittaswarm is
srgmdn - rgpd - mdnGSR | nRG nSn RS | n, nd, dp, ||
p,d - d,nn, - SRnS - nGR - n | RS - gnd - mdp | grnd - mgrs ||
correcting a small typo in Sundaram Iyer's book.

It is indeed palindromic - the SSP mentions it as anuloma viloma (palindromic) pattern. There are some differences in the two notations (whether the swara is to be sung in the lower or upper octave), and it seems tough to sing. It is worth trying. TNS has shown us the way, and it is out there for people to work on and get it right.

[harimau]

I think Kalyanaraman sir sings it in Dipali. TNS sir sings in Maru behag only.

Didn't Sri Kalyanaraman sing in Gavathi? "Hariguna gavathu".

[Enna_Solven]

In one recording, SKR specifically says, "This ragam is called Deepali."

[rshankar]

E_S, as always, I think one should take harimau with a pinch of salt!

[Enna_Solven]

I thought he was asking seriously...

[satyabalu]

"what does member satyabalu tries to convey? 'sir do you mean that TNS's manji sounded like ahiri initially :^)"
It is obvious now that the member is uncertain regarding the identity of two ragas. Ahiri and manji are not allied ragas and has no similarity in any prayoga and hats off to the great musician who brought its identity with all its essence. If Mr.satyabalu is adept in ragalakshana kindly let him demonstrate the same."--Shyamala wrote.
* Any rasika (adept or not)/ discerning listener can tell that the Raga does not resemble/sound like the one that is intended by the artist.
* Have we not heard of ARI being approached by a rasika when his Nayaki according to him was looking Darbar or the other way round!
* I confirmed with yet another forum member (for Ahiri) &one SKA who repeated when I asked him again mentioning the Kriti (for Punnagavarali) soon after the concert -
*Why have I not noticed any deviation from Manji when I had listened to Brovavamma earlier?
* I was fully convinced with his Manji once he settled down.At that point in time my wife murmered"varugalamo Iyya".
* Views are my own .

[kssr]

Was TNS given a morning slot this year at MA?

[devan]

yes.if you are not a crowd puller you will be pushed to morning slot.that is why tvs tns ost neyveli sang in that slot which is popularly known as vrs slot or crs slot.

[ramalakshmi18]

yes.if you are not a crowd puller you will be pushed to morning slot.that is why tvs tns ost neyveli sang in that slot which is popularly known as vrs slot or crs slot.

is it your personnel opinion devan? I attended the concerts of all the three in many places , OST and neyveli had reasonable crowd and I think TNS is still a crowd puller, MFAC was full Parthasarathy sabha was almost full Karthik fine arts at valliammal was jampacked Brahma gana sabha and BVB was almost full. Many of them were ticketed.

I attended the concerts of mambalam sisters gayathri girish who performed in the evening slots of Academy, the hall was almost empty on what basis you say that academy gives evening slots only for crowd pullers. I attended two to three evening concerts at Music Academy very sorry to say that except 7-8 top rated artists other experienced poor crowd ;(

[kssr]

What is vrs / crs?

[sureshvv]

VRS could be "Voluntary Retirement Service"

Then CRS should be "Compulsory Retirement Service"

Just guessing! Can you tell I am jobless ?