BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

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BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple(RA Puram) on Jan 01st,2012
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Vocal : BrindA manickavasagam (disciple of SugunA varadAchari)
Violin : kamalakiran Vinjamuri (disciple of A KanyAkumari)
Mrudangam : L subramanian(disciple of KS Kalidas)

Concert duration/Day : 2 hours /Sunday
Concert Type : Non Nirvana (04:30 to 06:30pm)
Sabha/Hall : RA Puram Bhakta Jana sabhA / Sringeri Temple(RA pruam)

1. gowri maNohara karunAkara (S) - gowrimaNohari - psivan
5 mins swaras
2. maravakavE O manasA(Raga sketch) - shyamA - patnam

3. idisammayamu brOva rAdhA (R S) - nAtakapriyA - MV
7 mins alapana and 4 mins violin return
swaras for 4 mins
4. shree mAthrubhUtam - kannada - MD
5. sudhA madhurya bhAshini - vandanadhArini - attributed to GNB

I wanted to hear mainly kamalakiran (kid who is a disciple of AK)and to an extent BrindA. I was pleased to also hear Subramanian who must be in the age in between brindA and Kamalakiran. BrindA has just finished her UG in Engg in chennai and from 2011 she is pursuing her masters in engg based out of east coast in US . One can say she has joined the brain drained musical wing of Trichy to toronto sankaran, salem shriram and sangeeta swaminathan. kamalakiran is based out of US. R subramanian is the disciple of KS Kalidas who is from PSP school and, he is based out of bangalore.

This is my fourth concert of Brinda spread may be in the last 4 years. She always has great manodharmam, takes a fairly great spread of krithis which are not popular in circuit and in general her concerts are always very gripping and does not sag in singing.

Her start was fantastic , we dont hear gowrimanohari papanasam sivan krithi often . I vaguely recollect this gowri manOhara by Balaji shankar rendering in recording and have just once heard few years back. The krithi has a pep touch and brinda rendered very well with a lot of confident sangathis in swaras. The violin was not that heard and it was adjusted in shyamA, her rendering and violin support blended with the roll of mrudangam.

The submain in natakapriyA was a rare one and the alapana was sung beautifully and played very well by kamalakiran. The rare natakapriya krithi had a rare song and brinda sang beautifully and there was really intense classical exchange from both brinda and kamalakiran.

It was time for one slow and one fast number, the slow was not the usually slow kriti but brinda sang mathrubootam quite well with lovely diction.The fast filler was GNB famous vandana dhaarini, and was well done.
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6A. vAnanai madisudiya (R T N S T) - keeravAni - appar(tevaram)
9 mins alapanai and 6 mins violin return
tAnam for 8 mins
neraval in "vIranai viDamuNDanai viNNavar dhIranait" for 5 mins
swaras for 11 mins
6B. tani for 9 mins

7. shree jagadeeshwari durgA mAtA - Ahirbhairav - LGJ
8. kannA katharul meghavarna kadaikaNN kamalakannA - madhyamAvati - psivan

9. ThillAnA (tom dru tAni - vaNNa malargaLaum ) - kAnadA - LGJ
10 thirrupugazh ending in perumAlE - ?? + ?? + shyamA + shuruTTi - AGN
11. nee nAma - sowrAshtram - Sadguru ThyagarAjA

THe main in keeravani was really aesthetic . Brinda does not believe in general squatting in sowkhyam. There is always a touch of vigour and intensity interlaced with nice brigas and it was demonstrated beautifully in main in keeravani. Before the krithi was sung , tAnam was requested and she indeed sang well . The krithi vAnanai is gripping and she sang the appar master piece woderfully the karadu moradana thamizh in general does not get in her way to produce music.

keeravani tAnam was gripping with kamalakiran kind of overtaking more, he has a look of a young lalgudi too .THe neraval in keeravani was very good but the best was her swaras where there was an excellent vocal-violin fast baton exchange , kudos especially to Kamalakiran who played a lot like his Guru A Kanyakumari.Returns and exchange were very fast and extremely impressive.

Tukkadas were mostly new and particularly liked Lalgudi's ahirbhairav rendition which was wonderul that instersected more with melody.I generally love LGJ thillana and this one had quite a laya vishayam to it. The ragamaliga was a concotion of undecipherable words ending with perumAle and I guess that is always a norm for tirruppugazh, cant blame brindA for it .

While "young" Brinda is indeed capable , to hear "younger" subramanain was wonderful too, one could see the influence of his PSP school with a nice roll embellishing rightly the krithi.The hall acoustics is very bad and mridangist in general are affected bit more .

The "youngest" kamalakiran play was overall neat, at times he gives a brief smile and his keeravani was really well done , that too the tanam was asked by some rasika who walked and went to the artist and he played wonderfully in cut bowing style the keeravani tAnam.

Few points to ponder for brinda
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#Brinda is bit finding difficult to hit higher notes and retain her shruti, especially I found in neraval in keeravani .

# There was lot of sahitya denseness in her tukkada, could have given bit more spacing with a slokham or viruththam and I certainly missed a thyagaraja krithi too .

One has to give it to her for overall briskness in singing, with no tapering towards bhajana sampradAya finish .Overall an excellent concert for 2 hours even packed with tAnam.

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I think the AhIrbhairav/cakravAham kRti is from Sri LJG's 'jaya jaya dEvi', from the segment on durgA.

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rshankar wrote:I think the AhIrbhairav/cakravAham kRti is from Sri LJG's 'jaya jaya dEvi', from the segment on durgA.
Ravi
Since Jaya Jaya devi is a dance opera ,I am assuming dance opera sangathis may be different than this rendition of shree jagadeeshwari which was like a krithi .May be you are right that this was a segment , Brinda who has written in this forum before can directly clarify.

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Rajesh, I believe Vinjamuri is a kid who lives in this area - DC ( Northern Virginia / Maryland). I heard him at a concert by a pair of sisters, Deepa and Divya, at the Siva Vishnu Temple and I was stunned to see how well he plays at such a tender age - imagination, playfulness, maturity, all of it.. I had the opportunity to run into him after the concert and give him my wishes. I see nice things for him in his future, if he maintains focus and he seems to have that awareness. If I do find my jottings from that kutcheri, I will share them here when I can. Like you, I was struck by his smiles, which came from playfulness, and from the great finishes to his swarams and the mature sancharas in his alapanas.

Thank you for that nice review.

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Love the sahityam in the tillana you mentioned:

Vanna Malargalum Vaanum Mathi yellam Kannan Vadivamaay Kannil Theriyuthe
Mann Adaintha Maayan Manathil Niraintha Pinn Unnavo Kann Urangavo Naan Ariyen

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Rajesh,
Yes, I made it a point to listen to her this year again since her singing is very appealing to me. I heard her at MFA where she sang SyAma sundarAnga in DhanyAsi (ages since I've heard that one!). I made it a point to be there also because Ram played the mrudangam for her. She sang a very good pURvi kalyANi (mINAkshi) and Ram's playing for it was excellent.

Ranganayaki,
It is maN aLainda (or aLanda) mAyan.

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arasi wrote:Ranganayaki: It is maN aLainda (or aLanda) mAyan.
Arasi, I was just thinking that maN aDainda mAyan would be in line with Sri HKMB's mUvASai konDa perumAn! :) Afterall, maN (bhUmi dEviyai) aDaindavanum, maN aLandavanum avanE!
The caraNa sAhitya of this tillAnA reminds me of mahAkavi's kAkkai SiraginilE....
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Oh.. Arasi.. I don't like that version that much.. but still thank you for the correction.

I might continue to sing it as Mann Adaintha Maayan... after all I only sing in my room. I had never heard the word ALAINTHA (I am certain it is not aLANTHA), so "adaintha" was the only perception I had. I assumed it meant the Maayan who descended to the earth and obtained form.. so MUCH nicer than a plain old anecdote from the stories, I feel. I'm a bit disappointed. I'd developed an attachment to just those words and now they turn out to be wrong. :(

I'm so ignorant of Tamil! At my level, I feel these words work - to give me the meaning I described. And they touch my heart.
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Here's an impromptu version of Vittal Ramamurthy singing those beautiful lines from the Lalgudi tillana in Kanada.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtzISbP1Ys (video courtesy of Mahesh3).

Ravi: In fact, when I first these words, I was reminded of the Mahakavi's poem as well.

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Thanks Mahavishnu and Mahesh3. Yes, kalakkal indeed. My guess is the final comment of appreciation is from Trivandrum Balaji.. Good guess?

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Ramesh, Listening to it, I felt rather shocked that it looked like I had the word Vaanum (Vaanam) wrong and the meaning all wrong too.. I don't think so, it is vaanum (vaanam) meaning sky, and not maayai as Vittal sings it. I have a version of L. Viji singing it and it is almost perfectly clear that it is vaanam. It makes sense too, as it is about beautiful things you can see which appear like Kannan vadivam. Maayai is not something you would put in that list.
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vasanthakokilam wrote:Thanks Mahavishnu and Mahesh3. Yes, kalakkal indeed. My guess is the final comment of appreciation is from Trivandrum Balaji.. Good guess?
Since this is abhifan who has uploaded it, I am guessing too that it was during their US tour this year?

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Ranganayaki wrote:I'm so ignorant of Tamil! At my level, I feel these words work - to give me the meaning I described. And they touch my heart.
Re-reading these words, I feel it makes me sound as though I am insisting they are right.. Is that how I come across?

I meant: I still like that version, even though it is wrong, and I feel it makes sense.

Arasi and Ravi, please tell me whether "Mann adaintha" would receive/give the meaning I described.
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Ranganayaki, your version makes sense. I will leave it to you and other resident language experts to parse it.
I am equally taken by the tune, so I had not paid attention to the words thus far. This tillana is a textbook example on the structure of Kanada ragam.

I am copying Lji's post from a while ago. Full thread here: http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4770 ... yrics.html

tom dru tAni. rAgA: kAnaDA. Adi tALA.

P: tom dru tAni tom dru tAni dhiranA taka dhIm tadAni
A: tana dhImta dhIm dhIm dhIm tadhIm takadhIm tajham jham jham tajham
tana dhImta dhIm tadhIm dhIm tadhIm takadhIm tajham tajham jham tajham
tana dhirana tadhIm dhIm tana dhirana taka dhIm dhIm tana dhirana takiTa
C: vaNNa malargaLaum vAnam mati ellAm kaNNan vaDivamE kaNNil teriyudE
maN aLanda mAyan manadil nirainda pin uNNavO kaN urangavO nAn ariyEn

tatana tatdhIm tanatatdhIm tanadhIm ma dha ni sa* ni pa ma ga ma ri sa
ri gA ma tadhImta tA ma dhA ni tajhamta tA ni sa* ri* tatOm tadhIm
tajjham takiTatAm tAm tAm ta tajjham takiTa
tOm tOm tOm tatajham takiTa dhIm dhIm dhIm


VK, yes it would be from their recent US tour. I just love how natural the music sounds in some random parking lot, somewhere in rural Pennsylvania. I even like the "seat belt not worn/door open" chime in the background.

So it would be a very reasonable guess to suppose that the person vociferously enjoying the piece is TVM Balaji. It could also be Abhishek himself. Mahesh could provide a first person account.

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Also, there was an extensive discussion about the extremely talented Kamalakiran Vinjamuri on this forum a few years ago.
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1088 ... layer.html

It is wonderful to see his progress on the mainstream concert platform.
Well done, Brinda, Kamalakiran and R Subramanian. It is heartwarming to hear about all this new talent.

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Ramesh, I'm LOL at my absolutely stupid mistake (of 20 years!!! :( ) with the sahityam and the explanation I asked for.. I feel really silly, so I have edited out my question before too many people see it :).
mahavishnu wrote:Ranganayaki, your version makes sense. I will leave it to you and other resident language experts to parse it.
I am equally taken by the tune, so I had not paid attention to the words thus far. This tillana is a textbook example on the structure of Kanada ragam. .


What!! Don't make me feel guilty for opening my mouth, Ramesh.. Resident language expert? The other two are, not me. I'm no expert at anything. I'm just not shy when it comes to exposing my ignorance.

I completely agree with you on "textbook example".. but aren't all of Lalgudi's pieces like that? Each and every one of them delineates the raga so well!!

Thank you for the sahitya.. I hope there are other pieces he has shared. No need for further parsing, is there? Since we have it from the horse's mouth?

Still, question for those who know words: alanda vs alaintha.. are the two words basically the same? are they interchangeable? L. Vijayalakshmi's version and Vittal Ramamurthy in that clip both clearly sing it as alainda. Lalgudi Mama has it written down as alanda.

C: vaNNa malargaLaum vAnam mati ellAm kaNNan vaDivamE kaNNil teriyudE
maN aLanda mAyan manadil nirainda pin uNNavO kaN urangavO nAn ariyEn

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Resident language expert?
vous êtes un expert français. n'est-ce pas?
I completely agree with you on "textbook example".. but aren't all of Lalgudi's pieces like that? Each and every one of them delineates the raga so well!!
Absolutely, but this and the behag tillana are in a league of their own. beyond compare.

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mahavishnu wrote:
vous êtes un expert français. n'est-ce pas?
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"Expert" - Bof! Je n'en sais rien.. :) Pas trop mauvaise, je dirais. :) - Mais merci, quand-meme.. c'est gentil.

C'est pas mal, ton francais!

Sorry everyone else, couldn't resist responding.

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Ranganayaki: I wish I could have taken French in high school :) but if I hadn't taken tamizh, I would not have been able to even follow this discussion. Non, je ne regrette rien, as Edith would say.

On the contrary, there is so only so much French one can learn while on sabbatical in France. J'ai beaucoup regrette.

Pardon the digression.

Back on topic.
Rajesh: As always, thanks for your diligent report. Reviews of up and coming artistes are rare and this was a very useful review for Brinda. Her song selection is excellent. Her manodharma is excellent. If she can smooth over some rough edges, I only see great things in her future. I take it that she is learning from the venerable NSG these days.

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Kamalakiran accompanied Sangeetha in her one of her concerts and was very impressive. For a 13 year old, his manodharma is excellent and he has a pleasant stage presence.

His parents are both violinists and he comes to India twice a year for tuition with AK.

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mahavishnu wrote:Ranganayaki: I wish I could have taken French in high school :) but if I hadn't taken tamizh, I would not have been able to even follow this discussion. Non, je ne regrette rien, as Edith would say.

On the contrary, there is so only so much French one can learn while on sabbatical in France. J'ai beaucoup regrette.
Ramesh,
You put it in a very interesting way! :) But I agree with you completely.

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Back to la langue of the forum ;) and to the words aLandavan and aLaindavan (one who measured the earth--and the one who played with mud).

vaNNa malargaLum (not malargaLaum)=beautiful flowers and...
kaNNan vaDivamAi=in the image of kaNNan

if we insert commas, it will be easy to understand.

vaNNa malargaLum, vAnam, madi ellAm
kaNNan vaDivamAik kaNNil theriyudE!
maN aLanda mAyan manadil niRainda pin,
uNNavO? kaN uRangavO? nAn aRiyEn!

Beautiful flowers, the sky and the moon--
When they all look like the image of KrishNA,
When the one who measured the earth fills my heart,
Do I need to eat, to sleep?
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arasi, krishna ate the dirt after he played with it. "aLainda" also makes sense then?

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Alainthavan means played with mud? The way you put it the first time you mentioned the two words, Arasi, I understood that they were very close in meaning. Now this is lovely. Mann alaintha maayan.. Very cute..

I was trying to sing it my wrong way, and I found I couldn't :), in spite of my intention.. not any more, now that the correct words are in my head...

Anyway, this sweet image is very appealing to me, much more than mann Alanda.. I hope you understand that I am talking about my personal reaction, and not fact.

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Mahavishnu
About a year back Brinda said she is learning only from Smt SugunA varadAchari and few years back she had learnt from shri NSG. Now with her movement to US(East coast), she is now in a university in DC or MaryLand(I think it is georgetown or something), perhaps right now her guru could be ranganAyaki sametham (just kidding...).

One correction to my first post , the mridangist L Subramanian(maniam or manian , i dont know i wish to correct it ,so that habit does not percolate to many of us) ,apart from Learning from shri KS KAlidAs ,his parents for the sake of mrudangam relocated from US to bangalore. That is very laudable too, we talk if it is ramakrishna murthy or Sandeep Narayanan, but when an accompanist does it we just dont seem to know (source of this info: lalitharam -gamakam). Best wishes to the mrudangist who is studying 11th standard, for that age the roll was very impressive .
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Ranganayaki,
Personal response is what makes verse and also makes rasikAs of us!

Enna_solven.
In one of my songs, both words occur next to each other!
maN aLaindE, aLandE, viN varai nEDindE...

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maN aLandAn = an allusion to VAmanA avatharam ( He measured the universe in thee steps
maN aLaindAn is an allusion to the dirt he swallowed and then when he opened his mouth his mother saw the universe in his mouth
viN varai nedinde is an allusion to the visvarupa darisanam
J'ai ete enchante par les phrases francaises qui m'avaient irresistiblement entraine ici.

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d'accord!

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très sophistiqués! Bienvenue à la discussion, l'honorable membre de Pondichéry.

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Ramesh,
He is not just any honorable member from Pondicherry: Sri Rajagopala Iyer (Ponbhairavi) taught french at JIPMER for many, many years!

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Ravi, thanks. Although I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Ponbhairavi at the rasikas meet last year, I did not know that about him. It is nice to have so many language experts on this forum.

I will watch my language henceforth :$ ;)

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Your 'language' is one of the finest here.
All the same, if Brinda happens to read this, she might wonder why her singing inspires this much of french-interchanges ;)

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rajeshnat wrote: About a year back Brinda said she is learning only from Smt SugunA varadAchari and few years back she had learnt from shri NSG. Now with her movement to US(East coast), she is now in a university in DC or MaryLand(I think it is georgetown or something), perhaps right now her guru could be ranganAyaki sametham (just kidding...).
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Did all the discussion distract us from Brinda Manickavachagam? I'm sorry if we did.. like Ponbhairavi, I couldn't resist the first response, and it went on from there.
mahavishnu wrote:Ravi, thanks. Although I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Ponbhairavi at the rasikas meet last year, I did not know that about him. It is nice to have so many language experts on this forum.

I will watch my language henceforth :$ ;)

Ponbhairavi, like Mahavishnu, welcome to the discussion. C'est bon de vous retrouver, ca fait un bon bout de temps.

Ramesh, you must take away those red faces.. first of all they belong to Nick :) (Hi, Nick!). Also, no good prof would be happy to see a good learner start being reticent. I'm sure Ponbhairavi would himself agree. Feel free, it's nice. Of course, let's not digress any more here and leave this for another day.

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Arasi- I have only paraphrased what you have aesthetically and cryptically enshrined in your verse
mahavishnu a votre service monsieur.
rshankar- it is very nice of you to still remember me though i was only a minor side dish in your medical curriculum
Ranganayaki merci de nous ramener a l'ordre du jour. I am amazed by your indefatigable zeal.You are found in every thread and at this rate it looks as though you will overtake Arasi in the number of posts

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by arasi »

Thanks, Ponbhairavi ;)

And, I'm nearly ready to retire! I mean, do they give a golden handshake and a watch at post# 10,000 and bid a rasikA goodbye?

Ranganayaki,
Whatever the case, you are most welcome to join the ranks of 'the big mouths' ;)

Thalaivarda
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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by Thalaivarda »

this mins thing is killing me, may be one can post it after mentioning the composer... just a suggestion

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

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I always wonder how you can keep tab on the time for every aspect of the kriti and each kriti i.e., raga alapana, violin, kriti, nereval, swars etc. If you keep tab on the time to record in the review how much can you concentrate on the music, your eyes will be perinially on the watch to just note down the time. Reviews need not be with the time to be so specific. also breaking the song list and review is quite annoying to read. Review should be much shorter and crisp.
Rajeshnat - If you could consider for a betterment in quality. Just a suggestion!!

cienu
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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by cienu »

fduddy wrote:I always wonder how you can keep tab on the time for every aspect of the kriti and each kriti i.e., raga alapana, violin, kriti, nereval, swars etc. If you keep tab on the time to record in the review how much can you concentrate on the music, your eyes will be perinially on the watch to just note down the time.
Rajesh has his own style of writing which reflects his passion for this art form . I see no great inconsistency in him being a time keeper and reviewer. It is akin to saying that one cannot be an umpire and a connoisseur of a cricket match at the same time.

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by mahavishnu »

I agree with Cienu completely.

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by Ranganayaki »

Me too.. It wouldn't be nice to cramp Rajesh's style. His reviews are informative and full of personal response. It isn't really that hard to filter out what you don't want. I didn't even notice the minute count this time!!
Ponbhairavi wrote:
Ranganayaki merci de nous ramener a l'ordre du jour. I am amazed by your indefatigable zeal.You are found in every thread and at this rate ...
Ponbhairavi, I'm a sporadic participant. If you see me in every thread, it's Maya :). Excusez-moi, je n'avais pas l'intention de vous "ramener a l'ordre du jour".. was just being considerate to the other participants and the OP, hope I didn't sound rude to you two.

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by sureshvv »

fduddy wrote:I always wonder how you can keep tab on the time for every aspect of the kriti and each kriti i.e., raga alapana, violin, kriti, nereval, swars etc.!
I agree with this for myself. It is very hard to make notes in a good concert for fear of missing out on a number of little finer things.
I have abandoned the note keeping a few times because I would rather not miss what was happening in the concert. May be i should use a dictaphone or something.

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by sureshvv »

Ranganayaki wrote:Oh.. Arasi.. I don't like that version that much.. but still thank you for the correction.

I might continue to sing it as Mann Adaintha Maayan... after all I only sing in my room.
Glad you didn't hear it as "Mann Adanja Vaayan" since that image will be very hard to get over :-)

arasi
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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by arasi »

sureshvv,
adanja is the corrupt form of aDainda ;)

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by Ponbhairavi »

Arasi, 10000 is not the final number and as mathematicians say the list of numbers is infinite. In any case when there is a Golden hand shake it would only be for celebration of a record achievement as in cricket and not a retirement.
ranganayaki: i was only envying your dynamism regretting at the same time that I do not have even a fraction of that.maN adaintha mAyan can also have an intrepretation. :viN Nai vittu maNNai (maNNulagai vandadaindha( that is the first meaning of avatharam) mAyan. Now you need not confine your singing to your room .By repeatedly thinking about this mAyan, may be I am under the spell of mAya as you have rightly said.

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by bilahari »

sureshvv wrote:I have abandoned the note keeping a few times because I would rather not miss what was happening in the concert.
+1.

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Re: BrindA manickavasagam@Sringeri Temple on Jan 01st,2012

Post by Ranganayaki »

Ponbhairavi, You make me feel good in a few ways. Thank you for taking my words in the spirit they were intended in :). Thank you also for answering my question about "mann adaintha maayan" and confirming the interpretation I offered a couple of days ago.


Ranganayaki wrote: I was trying to sing it my wrong way, and I found I couldn't :), in spite of my intention.. not any more, now that the correct words are in my head...
sureshvv wrote:
Glad you didn't hear it as "Mann Adanja Vaayan" since that image will be very hard to get over :-)
:D Suresh, don't play with my head!! :)

But coming to think of it, Mann Adanja Vaayan sounds awful, but isn't the image lovely! After all it inspired the line(s) "Tayeege Baayalli Jagavanne Torida Jagadoddharaka namma Udupi Sri Krishna.."

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