Rama Ravi, Nada Inbam

[rbharath]

Rama Ravi, Nanditha Ravi - R K Shriram Kumar - K Arun Prakash

Nada Inbam
Dilip Veeraraghavan birthday rememberence
6 Oct 2012. 6 :15 pm

varNam - kAmavardhani - Adi
vinatA suta vAhana - jayanta sEnA
divAkara tanujam - yadukula kAmbhOji - Ekam - MD (sketch)
nIkEla dayarAdu - sarasAngi (sketch S)
vanajAsana vinutA - shrI rAgam - rUpakam -Subbaraya Sastri
mAyammA - nATTaikuranji - Adi - SS (RS)
tiruvaDi tanai maravAdhE - rItigauLa - Adi - Muthukumara Swamy
mAmava raghurAmA - sArangA - rUpakam - T (S)
gajavadanA sammOdita - tODi - Adi - Kumara Ettendra (RNST)
smara sundarAnguni - paras - Adi - DS
nAraImaNi kainadirA - khamAs - Adi - DS
rAma rAma prANa sakhi - bhairavi - Adi - K
enthaTi kulukE - kalyANi - rUpakam
uruvAi aruvAi - madhyamAvati - kaNDa cApu - Thiruppugazh

[Lakshman]

nIkEla dayarAdu-Ramasami Shivan.

[archa]

For a few years I thought Rama Ravi had shunned her weeping gurus and taken to bright classical music. She also started getting popular. She had realised that weeping was the way to keep away rasikas from her concert door. For a few years now, she had concentrated on giving to the rasikas what they wanted, what she had learnt from DKJ and her concerts had begun to sparkle. In the said concert I could see she had gone back to her old ways, gajavadanA, the javalis, the bhairavi oppari padam etc. We expect Rama to go back to her good music with songs learnt from DKJ. Otherwise she'll again face empty halls as her gurus did.

[srikant1987]

Smt Rama Ravi has had the double-fortune of tutelage both from the DKJ and Brindamma schools. Many of Naada Inbam's regular audiences and Prof Veeraraghavan himself are (was) very fond of Brinda-Mukta music, so it was wise of Smt Rama Ravi to showcase her tutelage in that school in this concert.

Were she to be called to perform before DKJ fans (such as yourself and so many others) or on an occasion remembering him, she may choose his favourite compositions instead!

So what's all the fuss and bitterness about?

[vasanthakokilam]

archa, you are now habitually trolling every thread where there is a connection to your one-trick-pony topic which is, let me not mince any words, anti-B & M . It is now very clear that you are intent on casting everything in that one mold you have. It is getting very tiring. It is hard to take you seriously any more and engage in any discussion on the merits of the topic. And I suggest others do not feed the troll

[GNB_LGJ_PR]

For a few years I thought Rama Ravi had shunned her weeping gurus and taken to bright classical music. ........ I could see she had gone back to her old ways, gajavadanA, the javalis, the bhairavi oppari padam etc. We expect Rama to go back to her good music with songs learnt from DKJ. Otherwise she'll again face empty halls as her gurus did.

vk et al - I couldn't stop responding to this one - kindly excuse me

Why this Kola veri, Kola veri (di)?

Any personal vendetta with B&M?

[RaviSri]

It was indeed very gracious on Rama's part to have given a recital in remembrance of Dileep Veeraraghavan. And she has sung many of Dileep's favourite songs, the bhairavi paam, javalis in paras, kalyANi (he was mad after this javali). He never tired of asking me to sing gajavadanA, whenever I met him, he was very fond of its chittaswaram. mAmava raghurAma in sArangA was another favourite of Dileep's.

Rama visited him at his home in K.K.Nagar when he was ailing, and sang for him, a few days before I met him which was the last meeting. Such a beautiful and useful life snatched away in its prime by cruel fate. They don't make the likes of Dileep anymore. My loss is as much as his students' and IIT's.

[devan]

archa, what you are writing is not tiring at all.on the contrary it is very earthy unlike some shaekspear and poets here.keep up the good show

[archa]

devan, these people don't want balanced opinions. They, including the administrators like cm lover, vasantakokilam are all afraid of healthy, though strong, criticism. Most people here have weak stomachs, not able to digest strong stuff. The admin people threaten to throw me out, ban my posts, et al, but treat with kid gloves those who are really going over the top, like a person who called me a vandal or venkatakailasam who asked me to get out or the person who said I had kolaveri or the philosopher varsha who herself/himself does not understand what she/he writes. Here's giving a title to varsha. Henceforth you will be known by the title Swamini Varashanandi Yogini or Swami Varshananda Yogi as your gender may be.

I stand by my views and I have nothing personal against B-M, no vendetta as some have alleged. Only against their kind of music. As such I have the same opinion about the music of many others including Musiri, Mani Krishnaswami, and others like them who were also fond of weeping. Musiri is supposed to have made his rasikas also weep, thereby obviating the necessity for sabha authorities to clean up the auditorium. The equivalent of Musiri, B-M etc., in Hindustani music was Omkarnath Thakur and Kumar Gandharva. It is today fashionable to say that I am B-M's staunch rasika, or I am Musiri's rasika or I love Kumar Gandharva etc. Such statements born out of a new found love or a necessity, compulsion to sound right and mingle with the so-called elite, have no meaning.

In short people here need to test their stomachs and take vitamins, medicines etc., to strengthen that part of their body.

[sureshvv]

I am the one who called you vandal when you resorted to calling them names in a thread that was celebrating their music.

I understand you don't like their music and your stated reasons for it. Move on. We will be happy to read about what you liked and why.

[varsha]

Henceforth you will be known by the title Swamini Varashanandi Yogini or Swami Varshananda Yogi as your gender may be.

Thanks for the compliment .Also for including Musri , Mani Krishnaswamy , Omkarnath Thakur and Kumar Gandharv into your hall of infamy .
btw you can confirm your post about my gender .. it should be -- Swamini Varashanandi Yogini .
I dont want others to keep asking me the same question . I am a shy type.

[devan]

i got very simple question.when people are praised to sky level, like vijayalashmi subramaniam by somebody the moderator never threatend the person to stop.but when somebody is criticised musically not personaly the moderator issue a warning that the thread will be closed. the law should apply bothways .

[vasanthakokilam]

devan: I did not want to prolong this side discussion in this thread but you do raise an interesting question. Let me answer briefly here.

Though what you state may be the ideal, that is not how it works in real life and that is reflected here. We do get some smirky/snarky/raised eye-brow/sarcastic replies through the email channel when someone is highly praised in a one side fashion but that is an order of magnitude less when an artist is heavily criticized, especially in a targeted fashion. You can call it hypocritical, unfair, unjust or whatever, that is how it is.

But let us not be naive or play coy here. In this particular case the ideal equivalence and symmetry you state does not even hold. Why? Read on..

As I wrote somewhere else in this forum a while back, forum 'cred' matters a lot on how one's posts are preceived. This is true in any online social network. Other members know you only through your views expressed in posts. So the 'cred' is the gestalt that results from the complex sum of your views expressed here. It is hard to describe it beyond that, but we all know what it is. So, if someone comes on new and in a targeted fashion expresses their extreme dislike for a particular artist's music or school/bANi in an incessant manner in many threads based on some remote connection to their pet-peeve, and take on aggressively other members who may express a very strong liking for the same music, you should expect this kind of a negative reaction. This kind of drive-by trolling would not cut it. At this point, no one is in the mood to discuss the topic, we discuss the troll. If one wants to have a meaningful presence here for the long term then establish the cred over time and then others may engage you in a healthy discussion. This is not some 'great revelation', I am just stating the mundane and obvious.

Let us move on and let us not prolong this line of discussion in this thread.

[gardabha_gana]

Such a beautiful and useful life snatched away in its prime by cruel fate. They don't make the likes of Dileep anymore. My loss is as much as his students' and IIT's.

True indeed! I kept in touch with him for only an year - when I took his class and cherish those debates whether on politics, music or cricket. Truly a multi faceted individual. He burst out into Bhavayami opposite Divya Cafe one morning! My bad that I didn't keep in touch with him after I moved to the US. He is a true inspiration - for many including me.

[rshankar]

Devan - I can tell you that those reviews you allude to do not do the artist any favors. In fact, the irritation with the reviews may spread to the artist (unfortunately). So, whether a moderator restrains those is, IMO immaterial.
On the other hand, the negative 'critique' of the artists' in question doesn't sound dispassionate, and is not very tempered. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if these negative comments were prefaced by - IMO, the music is not appealing to me, because 1)...2)...3)...etc., the same comments would have been much more acceptable. But presented as they are, they do come across a tirade, and that is what is being moderated.

[sureshvv]

Devan.. Let me share a little secret.

If you praise someone sky high, nobody will take offense. They may think you are nuts, but they will smile at you and ignore you.

On the other hand if you attack someone, even bystanders will take offense and try to stop you. Even if they don't particularly like the person being attacked.

Such is life. It doesn't apply both ways.

[annamalai]

Back to the original topic, Rama Ravi is a great musician no doubt about that.

[archa]

Yogini Varshanandiji, It is great to know that I belong to the same gender as you. Self-realised souls are shy for sure. So you are in good company.

[gardabha_gana]

Dilip liked a tough honest debate - not the kind that is happening on this thread. Wonder what he will be thinking upstairs....