time-to-say-good-bye...

[venkatakailasam]

Thank you friends...for being with you all along...

Now, there is an end to the night…..
Oh! It is beginning of the day…..
The glorious morning hours…….
There is no more darkness…..
Brightness everywhere….

Pair of sparrows sitting on the sill
Clattering with open wings……
Was it a thousand times?
A piece of music…is it sahana?

I have time to ponder …
In the chillness of the cool air….
Wisdom has born!!

venkat k

[Ranganayaki]

Please let us know what this means.. If you have been offended by others, please let it go - like water off a duck's back. Your contributions are valued by many. The time to ponder is always , without the need for a good bye.

[Nick H]

Time to say good-bye?

I hope you do not mean it. I'm sure there are areas where we have considerable differences, but that's life, and there areas where we do not, and I value and respect your fellow membership a lot.

[Ranganayaki]

I think this is a wonderful forum where these virtual relationships seem so real as we bond with each other with our common cement of Carnatic music. Many of us even even get to meet others and form friendships in real life. But our conflicts too seem all too real and so I think there is something to be said for decorum and restraint in our relationships here. We don't know what is going on in the lives of those we interact with and how fragile they may be. We don't tell each other off, that is just not done. The first thing I noticed about Rasikas is - wow, some people have a very high standard of discourse. The next thing I noticed after I signed up was that it is very important to some of us to set others straight and start squabbles. We all come here with our personalities, we can't leave it at the door. So we all need to remind ourselves that we are here for an art form, there is no universal truth. Every style, every approach has its place, and so does every Rasika. It is too difficult to regulate behaviour, but it will be nice if each one of us thought a little about the value of respectful disagreement and also remember to stay on topic and not get personal.

[VK RAMAN]

ईशा वास्यमिदं सर्वं - IshA vAsyamidam sarvam (IshOpaniSad)
न हि ज्ञानेन सदृशं पवित्रमिह विद्यते - na hi jnAnEna sadrsham pavitramiha vidyatE (Bhagawadgita)
वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम् - vasudhaiva kuTumbakam (mahOpaniSad)

[arasi]

Ranganayaki, Nick and VKR,

Yes, we are one family here, a global village, where we come together to share our experiences with music and other things. We have made friends without seeing each other, and in some instances friends we have met and whom we cherish.

Yes, there are differences in opinions and there are arguments at times--but we are better than a regular family in that we are not restricted by the circumstances of a related by blood family. The very freedom we have here which makes us disagree, is also carried through in our not being burdened with them to take them to heart. We move on...

Dear VKailasam,

Why this poem? You are too valuable a member on Rasikas.org anyone would be willing to say goodbye to. We all have benefited no end by your large-hearted sharing--and think of all the work that goes into it! True, many a bounty in this world is taken for granted, but that shouldn't deter a trooper like you. Let me stop now, because I do not know what made you write this poem...

[Ranganayaki]

I remember a time when vk was quite annoyed by the lack of response to his assiduous task of putting up a new concert each day. He was right, and I am guilty of having frequently enjoyed it silently, without overtly giving him my thanks. Let us just take the time to thank others for their kindness that we enjoy here.. just occasionally. I really know that we all lead busy lives and we put the music on and get on with our day. So just occasionally a word of appreciation for the greatest contributors here will be something we can plan to do, not necessarily every single time. I hope VK understands that he is appreciated even if we are at fault for not expressing our appreciation in words that reach can reach him.

[arasi]

PBala,
Thanks. We also see CML's post there. He is taking a hiatus now. Some of us are keeping in touch with him, but I haven't come across any post (correct me if I am wrong) asking about his absence. I am sure many are thinking about him. So, taking our rasika family for granted is something we all do, it seems

[Rsachi]

Are we reading too much in that poem?

[Pratyaksham Bala]

arasi:
Nice, you noticed !
That came in handy just to show that even when great efforts are made to provide the information sought, many a time they go without even an acknowledgement.

[thanjavooran]

Shri VK Avl,
Let me pray like this
" Naattamai ! Theerppai Matri Ezhudhu "
with sincere regards
Thanjavooran
05 10 2014

[venkatakailasam]

I think it is time for me to be open…Too many friends have asked me as to why it is so….

On 4th oct. 2014, I logged in as usual to post two songs of
Shri TNS at vidwans and vidushies in the early morning
Without any problem…When I tried to post the links to the songs…
Got a message that my IPO has been blacklisted and blocked.. It was a shock..
Then I tried my other accounts with FB, 4 shared, Mediafire, ..G Mail, Yahoo Mail,Twitter, and a few others..
There was absolutely no problem in opening the accounts with them..and in postings..
I thought that there may be a mistake and tried again..Same result..

Then I thought That I should take up with Shri vasanthakokilam..
He sent me a casual reply …I don't know why that would be. Looping in srkris…
Allowed it as it was..
After a few hours I found that the blockage was removed…
And I posted the songs..

After which I reflected the matter..When an IP number is blocked,
I will not be able to open any of my accounts..It has happened only here..
I leave it to you to guess..

I just started my 80th year on the first of September..
Sai and Maha Periava had shown me the way to have some leisure…
Well…It is as it is..Rather as it should be..
Thank you all for your inquiries over telephone and mostly by mail..
Best wishes to you all..

[Ranganayaki]

Sri Venkatakailasam, "blacklisted?" I do understand that you would be hurt. It doesn't look nice, I'm sure it didn't feel nice. Could it have been a mistake? May be Vasanthakokilam or Srkris will let us all know what happened.

I'm thinking that an ip being blocked will restrict the blocking to a particular computer, so you would still have access from other devices? Am I wrong? But of course, you wouldn't want that, not after seeing "blacklisted!"

Didn't you get an apology? I do believe one would have been in order even if it had been a slip-up.

This is so sad. I'm so sorry.

[Ranganayaki]

PBala,
Thanks. We also see CML's post there. He is taking a hiatus now. Some of us are keeping in touch with him, but I haven't come across any post (correct me if I am wrong) asking about his absence. I am sure many are thinking about him. So, taking our rasika family for granted is something we all do, it seems

Arasi, yes.. that is what I said, we all do that, including me. I have myself stayed away from rasikas for all this time, very very occasional visits till just a few weeks ago. I didn't know CML was missing here, which is MY explanation for not asking about him. I hope CML is well, please do let us know.

My posts here were general, mostly about the hurtful things that happen here sometimes, we do see those. I was upset that VK was saying bye. I just wanted to also express appreciation to VK just in case he was hurt by some interaction in the postings.

[Nick H]

Then I thought That I should take up with Shri vasanthakokilam..
He sent me a casual reply …I don't know why that would be. Looping in srkris…
Allowed it as it was..
After a few hours I found that the blockage was removed…
And I posted the songs..

After which I reflected the matter..When an IP number is blocked,
I will not be able to open any of my accounts..It has happened only here..
I leave it to you to guess..

I strongly recommend you to give the benefit of the doubt. If VK says he doesn't know, I feel sure it is true that he doesn't know.

I may be wrong, but I have the impression that all the behind-the-scenes work here is, at the moment, done by VK and srkris, but they are younger working guys that necessarily have to prioritise their careers. They also live (I think) on different continents, in different time zones, and communication is not necessarily going to be instant.

They are also both IT-industry guys. They will understand very well that most of the IP addresses here in India are "dynamic:" that is you get a new one every time you connect. If they want to ban or suspend a member, they would use the forum facilities to block that member ID, not the IP address that they last connected from.

I can't speak for others, obviously --- so I am speculating here. But I am speculating on the basis of quite a lot of experience of helping to run another forum. and on the basis of a little experience of both srkris and VK over the years.

I don't post much on rasikas these days. it doesn't mean that I am not here: I visit the site at least a couple of times every day.

I wish you many happy memories of your 80th birthday, and many more to come.

[Ranganayaki]

They are also both IT-industry guys. They will understand very well that most of the IP addresses here in India are "dynamic:" that is you get a new one every time you connect. If they want to ban or suspend a member, they would use the forum facilities to block that member ID, not the IP address that they last connected from.

just an opportunity for me to ask this: I thought the ip address also allows websites to recognize your computer and your location. So you get warnings or added identity questions when you login from a different computer or a different country. So even though it is dynamic is there some feature that helps recognition?? Please disregard if you feel this is off-topic.

[arasi]

A Happy special birthday to you, VKailasam! Peace, contentment and good health in years to come

[Rsachi]

My own take on this:
If anyone gets a warning or a message that they have been blocked (IP address, MAC address=computer identity etc.) they should screen print that message and email to SRKris that screenshot asking for a clarification.

I don't think the moderators are blocking anyone these days. I do believe it happened sometime to someone who got too aggressive or abusive perhaps. Sri Venkatakailasam is hardly that kind of person. Even if someone had objected to his sharing certain music files, it would not have resulted in a block such as this.

Was there a virus threat that was detected and blocked? A number of possibilities indeed! All merely conjecture on my part.
Happy 81st year to the gentleman of golden years!

[vasanthakokilam]

Then I thought That I should take up with Shri vasanthakokilam..
He sent me a casual reply …I don't know why that would be. Looping in srkris…

That is all true. I did not realize that Sri. Venkatakailasam took it the wrong way and perceived it as a casual reply and thought I did not care. As Nick wrote earlier, I meant exactly what I wrote and nothing more. I could not think of a reason why your IP address would be blocked by us. I did not do it and I wanted srkris to check it out.

I typically err on the side of verbosity but in this case I saw your email on my smart phone when I was busy with something else and I sent that quick reply from the smartphone itself for some possible immediate action. May be if I had written a few more sentences, it would not have given the impression that it was a casual reply.

Venkatakailasam, I am glad you could login again. I still do not understand why you got the blocking notification and how it got removed. If I find anything I will write to you by email and if it is of general interest I will post in the forum itself.

Sorry for the trouble and misunderstanding this has caused. Please resume your normal participation.

Belated Happy Birthday!

[Nick H]

just an opportunity for me to ask this: I thought the ip address also allows websites to recognize your computer and your location. So you get warnings or added identity questions when you login from a different computer or a different country. So even though it is dynamic is there some feature that helps recognition?? Please disregard if you feel this is off-topic.

Yes, I guess it is off-topic, so I won't dwell on it, but... there are fixed IP addresses as well, but it is more economic for ISPs to use dynamic addresses. they then need less than one address for every customer; they only need one address for every online customer.

I'm not at all a web design or web technology guy, but I suspect that cookies are the things that do what I mention. I could easily be completely wrong!

[maduraimini]

Sri VKailasam,

Just saw the news you were leaving Rasikas and was sorry to hear that. You have been posting so many songs, both old and new, that I have been listening to. I hope VK's reply explains all and you will be back with us with your inexhaustible collection of songs for us to enjoy.


May God Bless you with many, many more birthdays !

[arasi]

Ranganayaki,
This is in answer to the question under the topic of 'taking people for granted'!

CML is doing well--the one who has been here from day one and has posted nearly as much as I have--only that he has contributed much more to Rasikas.org with his knowledge and wit. He's extremely busy with some commitments, that's all.

Spring cuckoo,
Your contributions and hard work, and that of the 'where is he?' but very much there administrator of Rasikas.org with the minimum of vowels in his id, are the ones who are taken for granted mostly.

We have a special day for every kind of people and occasion. Should have one for those who are taken for granted too

[srkris]

I got an email from VK saying that Sri Venkata Kailasam finds his IP blocked.

I've suggested to Sri Venkata Kailasam to restart his modem (so it would reset the IP address to a new one) or call his internet service provider if it's a fixed IP. My hunch is that the spamhaus project has flagged his IP as a potential source of spam, it being blocked by spamhaus has nothing to do with this site. We have no reason to block either him or his IP.

But if he really wants to quit for some other reason, we'd be sad to see him go.

[Ramasubramanian M.K]

Time for this "digital neanderthal" to pitch in.

Dear VK: I am one of those who enjoy your postings of concerts--you are rendering yeoman service to all of us Rasikas--including "old foggies" like myself who "strut" about thinking that "we have heard it all" only to find a gem from YOU that tells me"Hey MKR You ain't seen nothing yet" the "BEST" is yet to come".

I do not understand the IT mumbo jumbo that may have caused your discomfiture.Apparently some "signals' may have crossed badly.
In anycase please favor an old man and pray continue your postings!!

[ganesh_mourthy]

The computers and internet, in what started off as a boon to the mankind is not so anymore always. Leave your PC to the hands of not so savvy friend for a couple of hours and you would find your computer behaving stranger than your life partner. Everything from installation , to creating email IDs have become so complex, especially at a time when all customer and public relations of banks and even govt agencies have gone online.

I used to get this block message whenever I tried logging in from my house in Velacherry through Airtel Dongle. And then when I travel to Pdy , the same Dongle works fine for the Rasikas website. This had happen to me a few times at least. It is just that anything that my PC says, I dont take it seriously. So , there is not even that "benefit of doubt " as Nick said, but I put the blame on the technologie right away and that relieves me. Having used this technologie for almost 20 years regularly , I could not even log out of my email ID when I borrowed my friend's tablet PC for a few minutes to check emails. He was leaving in a hurry and I had to give him back and later come home and change Password. Definitely my friend is not going to do an investigation on my emails, but the internet world may spread my messages all over without the knowledge of my friend through some " google key chains or whatever". Oh there are so many of it to flabbergast you than helping you.

We were clearing off all the old stuffs from my home and there were hundreds of LP tapes that had to be thrown out and I had this fear for a second " What if some super big technological crisis were to happen and all the digital materials become non-readable??
Oh ok! In the following seconds all the N plants around the world would also explode , and the flying flights would fall right on your confused head, so there is not much to worry.

Never agree with technology completely

[arasi]

ganesh_mourthy,
Loved your post! It speaks of the complexities of the internet which neanderthals like MKR and I don't have a clue about but you do make us understand the problems by giving examples! VKailasam is an exception to the 'golden' rule, of course--not forgetting CML...

I loved your humorous take too. Hope your partner in life does not get to see this

Srkris,
Thanks for chiming in, a man of few words

[vasanthakokilam]

Leave your PC to the hands of not so savvy friend for a couple of hours and you would find your computer behaving stranger than your life partner.

It is just that anything that my PC says, I dont take it seriously.

Oh ok! In the following seconds all the N plants around the world would also explode , and the flying flights would fall right on your confused head, so there is not much to worry.

Never agree with technology completely

ganesh_mourthy: That is quite funny. So many great lines.

It is interesting that you have gotten that blocked message before

Just for the information of others, the message Sri. Venkatakailasam got was
"IP address <his ip> has been blocked..The message is from SPAMHAUS".

Here is the wikipedia entry for SPAMHAUS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spamhaus_Project
"SPAMHAU is an international organization, based in both London and Geneva, founded in 1998 by Steve Linford to track email spammers and spam-related activity. The name spamhaus, a pseudo-German expression, was coined by Linford for an Internet service provider, or other firm, which spams or knowingly provides service to spammers."

if you read the page, you will see while it did some good in keeping spammers away, it detects many false positives as well like the one that had happened to venkatakailasam and many others.

There are still some missing pieces of info as to how V'kailasam can go to other sites without SPAMHAUS blocking it. On the other hand, the reason he could login later is probably because the ISP provided a different dynamic IP which SPAMHAUS did not block. I am just speculating.

(btw, regarding dynamic and static IPs, my experience is dynamic IPs are much more prevalent in India than U.S. Ranganayaki, what Nick said is correct. Banks and others use cookies to find out if you are coming from a new computer or not. Those are not IP based )

[Ranganayaki]

Leave your PC to the hands of not so savvy friend for a couple of hours and you would find your computer behaving stranger than your life partner.

That's the funniest line I've read in a while . Great post, ganesh_mourthy, all of it .

Thanks to Nick and VKm for taking the time to tell me stuff . Yes cookies.. Now I remember.

Happy birthday to Sri VK.

I hope we can say all's well that ends well? I"m saying VK will be back tomorrow to give us all a broad smile..

[ganesh_mourthy]

Yes, I know for sure that VKailasam will come back and cheer us all up with his music inputs and I have no qualms about it.

This Techie matters are indeed bewildering sometimes, even to the techsavvy users. Often when you create an email ID ( gmail especially) you often get blocked and get the message that " For some reasons GMail has found some unusual activities with this email ID and has to block it". The problem is GMail will not say what the unusual activity and leaves you totally perplexed , especially when this is just your first use of the email id. You will often find that all that sleazy mails coming to your inboxes , and important communications from the Banks and IT Dept going to spam mails as the server blacklists them. I happened to see the mail very late reminding me that my IT return form was not received by post. Bravo to the spam monitoring system and community.

Vkailasam like person definitely are an asset to this forum and they add empirical support to their agruments lending their personal experiences alongside. My Grandpa with 12 children at 90 was calm and untroubled reading his usual spiritual books a midst the commotion and confusion in the family when one of his grand daughters showed symtoms of Dengue and was rushed to the hospital. One of my uncless was slightly irked and directly affronted my Grandpa " What is worng with you Pa, especially at this time of confusion".

And my GP gave an unfazed reply " Look , she is not even confirmed of any Dengue or anything yet and I cannot panic for an illusion. Having seen hundreds of happiness, anguishes and losses you cannot expect one to get distressed and agitated every time something happens. You would understand when you are 90. Smile.

That was one life lesson for me and the saying goes " This will pass too".

But , I am not surprised that to even such people the new communication age could be frustrating. My neighbour Uncle and Aunt , both 85 + get worried every time their cooking gas runs out as you have to do telephone booking and there is no physical address to go in person and do the booking, which even I find it easier sometimes. My neighbours' lament now ' I have a Domestic help now and with all these online bookings and things I think we might need an IT qualified Help too"

So..Vkailasam sir, this is the complex world that even we youngsters live. Please come back quickly.

[Rsachi]

Guys, two stories to make you folks feel better.
36 yrs ago, when PCs/computers were a novelty in India, and offices had started off buying computers to do some accounting and reports, my CEO allowed his son (IIT JEE 1st ranker) to come and play with the office computer during his final year vacation when he was dutifully waiting to go away to America. The wonder kid did something and next day the computer was a completely wiped clean slate with no company data at all.

Very recently, a neighbour kid whom I have known from his birth, and is a final year IITM student travelling worldwide presenting papers on computer tech, and waiting for joining the best Ph D program in US of A, bought a cheap portable hard disk, transferred all his computer data including his programs, papers, reports and Carnatic music (he learnt from RKS) to that portable disk, and reformatted the PC. (I don't know why).The portable hard disk unfortunately for him gave a blank stare afterwards. The new disk is unusable and he threw away the purchase invoice so there's no warranty either.
I am guiding him to recover whatever data using services of folks who help government sleuths go after IT fraud. They promise between 4-40% data recovery.

Moral of the story: don't trust computer messages, whether they bump off your IP or award you a Nobel. Computers are worse than anything else man has invented. They are unreliable.
Remember Bill Gates and Steve Jobs have eaten humble pie. From issues on their own computers.
Period.

[ganesh_mourthy]

I have read somewhere that when Bill Gates and his Colleagues in their demo of win 98 for the first time to all the bigwigs in that circle, the OS did not even respond and there was a dark screen not responding for a few min. That phenomenon was called as Dark Screen or something I don't remember. So , for all of us who pat ourselves on having the most precious collection of music it is time to rethink . I have it in my PC and the back up in a hard disk. But, from what Rsachi mentions here , my music files are not in the safest place yet.

[Nick H]

ganesh_mourthy, you are talking about the famous Windows BSOD: [/i]The Blue Screen of Death![/i] And yes, there was a famous demo when it happened to Gates and the world laughed. The truth is that, for all MS's marketing nonsense, Windows was not even very stable or reliable, at least until W2000. But that's another story.Mr Gates may be paying back now with his philanthropic work, and I do appreciate it --- but the way he made his fortune was by dodgy business practices and selling sub-standard goods. Grrr.

It is a sad fact that the internet is full of garbage, ranging from unwanted marketing spam mails, through attempts at extortion and scams, to the down-right disgusting and evil. There are organisations that try to make some small fight against this, but sometimes the innocent get affected.

This morning, something similar happened to me on another forum, but, very strangely, only on one page. I let their admins know.

There are countries in the world that have a bad name for spam, spreading malware, etc, etc, etc. Sadly, India is one of them. IP addresses are bought in blocks by the ISPs, so they give a fairly good idea of where in the world the PC is. Some sites just block all Indian IPs. It happens.

[Rsachi]

How to save your music files, well, almost :
1. IDTag each track by artiste, song, album, category. (genre/composer/whatever makes sense for you) - THIS IS THE TOUGHEST STEP avoided by most CM rasikas. Result: total frustration to go back to old files.
2. burn data on DVDs say 1 to n and number each disk with an index file on each
DVD.
3. Save it on at least two hard disks - online and offline
4. Save it in the cloud.
I have tried to do this as much as feasible and can't say I miss any file unless I have goofed up in any of these four steps.

Every time technology migrates or you change your hardware, you need to ensure migration of legacy files.
Best of luck!

[Rsachi]

Bill Gates, Windows 98, Blue Screen of Death: http://youtu.be/IW7Rqwwth84

[ganesh_mourthy]

Thanks and it was very educative , Rsachi. For the internet and clouding our internet speeds are less than the speed of the world average and with a very limited allowance for a very high price. I am paying 2K per month yet it is not satisfactory . But I will persevere with the cloud upload.

Nick , your posts says a lot that you have been loyal to you or rather otherwise. I find windows to be more supporting when it comes to app variety , be it music or otherwise, or at least for my kind of stuffs as I have both. Tell me that you will educate me and I will come running to you with my Macbook Air that I only open, charge and shelve it back . And now the android in my phone and Chrome thingy to make my life more miserable.

I read somewhere

Life was much easier to live when Blackberries and Apples were just fruits.

[venkatakailasam]

TREE OF Family and LIFE...

Thank you all....srikris,Vasanthakokilam,Ranganayaki, arasi,nick ganesh_mourthy
and all for enlightening me and for the kind words here and at mail...

[VK RAMAN]

Welcome back Venkatakailasam and helping us to enrich our knowledge in your own way. I like to submit the following select lines of Poet Poonthanam:

Krishna Krishna Mukunda Janaaradana - njnanappana – poontaanam ( Shorter version)

Krishna Krishna Mukunda Janaaradana
Krishna Govinda Naaraayana Hare
Achyuthaananda Govinda Maadhava
Sachithaananda Naarayana hare

Gurunaadhan thuna cheyka santhatham
Thirunaamangal naavinmeleppozhum
Piriyaatheyirikkanam nammude
Nara janmam saphalamaakkeduvaan

Innaleyolam enthenn arinjeela
Ini naaleyum enthenn arinjeela
Innikkanda thadikku vinaasavu-
Minna neram ennethumarinjeela

Kandukandangirikkum janangale
Kandillennu varuthunnathum bhavaan
Randu naalu dinam kondoruthane
Thandiletti nadathunnathum bhavaan

Aamodam kondu choolluvin naamangal
Aanandam poondu brahmathil cheruvan
Mathiyundenkilokke mathiyithu
Thiru naamathin maahathmayamaamithu

[Sundara Rajan]

Now that the controversy is hopefully resolved with all the clarifications, it is now time for me, as one two years older, to wish you the best of health and happiness and also welcome you back to the forum. Many of us have enjoyed listening to the music recordings you post and in my case more so by reading about Kanchi Mahaperiyava.

[cmlover]

A warm Welcome Back to you Vkailasam!
That was the shortest hiatus on record at Rasikas.
Mine may last a bit longer since I have to complete the project I have undertaken!

No one ever quits Rasikas Family though some get banned for nefarious activities!
(even they try to get back using alternate IDs)
Further, you may try to quit Rasikas but the Rasikas never quit you!

Welcome to 'Sahasrachandra darshanam' and even more!!

warm regards....
CML

[Ramasubramanian M.K]

WELCOME BACK VK SIR-- casting aside my normal vaunted humility(!!),I am glad that my Post(#24) helped "cajole" you back into the Rasikas Forum realm.

Seriously though please get bck to your posts of concerts!!

I read somewhere in one of the IBM Manuals issued in the 60's when IBM 360(now young forumites please don't ask me what is 360?--I am ancient I admit it!!).

The Quote:

WE LIVE IN AN AGE WHEN WE ARE PROUD OF MACHINES THAT DON'T THINK BUT SUSPICIOUS OF PEOPLE WHO DO!!!

[thanjavooran]

Shri Venkata Kailasam Avl,
A warm Welcome Back to you. Wishing you very many more happy returns too.
With warm regards
Thanjavooran
06 10 2014

[VK RAMAN]

Welcome back cmlover. We miss your postings too. Namaskarams

[Ranganayaki]

Thanks for becoming cheerful again, Sri VK , touched by your picture.

Welcome back, cml, we heard you were away. Good luck with the project you have undertaken, hope it is successful.

[CRama]

VK Sir, Thanks for continuing with us. Kindly accept my namaskarams on your SATHABHISHEKAM.

[cmlover]

My project is Heavy
It will change the lives of the obese US veterans

[Nick H]

Nick , your posts says a lot that you have been loyal to you or rather otherwise. I find windows to be more supporting when it comes to app variety , be it music or otherwise, or at least for my kind of stuffs as I have both. Tell me that you will educate me and I will come running to you with my Macbook Air that I only open, charge and shelve it back . And now the android in my phone and Chrome thingy to make my life more miserable.

I know nothing ofApple, except the fruits. I liked to work with Unix, I had to work with Windows, and for quite a long time inertia caused me to use it at home. Now I live with Linux. With, not for: I retired from being a techie!

[mahavishnu]

In the spirit of things, here is some good (British) humour to put an end to this saga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI

[ganesh_mourthy]

While we are discussing the frustrations with the tech stuffs ( thought without it we we will not be communicating now as a family ), this article in in Hindu sent down chills down my spine as I was trying to savvy the caution message in it. Where are are leading ourselves to ? Some Death Trap?

When Arasi was claiming innocent of the IT stuffs and placed me in a Pundit podium , I was actually flying for a moment. But , not any more after reading these stuffs.

Arasi, in fact I am ignoramus too when it comes to these stuffs. Yesterday , I wanted to delete a blank page from MS word and I was sitting blank not able to do it for half an hour and my 8 th Grade nephew came to my rescue.

GM

[arasi]

You would surely do better than I do, by spouting a few of your choicest technical terms around him to impress the youngster.

My grandson has a quizzical look on his face when I do my idiot part and then gets busy with putting things right--but his simple ways are far too complicated for me

Ramesh,
Thanks for bringing at least one of the two Ronnies. They were a lark!

[ganesh_mourthy]

Arasi

I have 2 stupid questions. Just to substantiate my stupidity, or rather innocence I would say for political correctness.

Who is Ramesh?
And what do you mean by " Thanks for bringing at least one of the two Ronnies. They were a lark!"

See, it is not only the Techno Age I have problem with , but basically the language. The language has also become more complicated. I see a sudden surge in voCabulary level of people these days. Did you notice? And the borrowed words from other languages.

I think it is time to regularize and standardize the Karnatic Music terms before it gets torn apart fancifully. Rasikawiki is yet to be take its shape I suppose.