Sri TMK in NJ (CMANA), October 11, 2014

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Sri TMK in NJ (CMANA), October 11, 2014

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October 11, 2014
Vocal: Sri T. M. Krishna (TMK)
Violin: Sri R. K. Sriram Kumar (RKSP)
mRdangam: Sri Arun Prakash (AP)
Venue: Edisopn HS, Edison, NJ
Organizers: CMANA


When I read VK’s report of the previous day’s concert in Chicago, I knew I had to attend the one in NJ. So I made some hasty changes to my plans for the day and got to the venue just as the introductory speech was done and the artists began the evening without much further ado.

At the very outset, Sri TMK made an announcement that this is his first trip to the US in 3.5 years during which time his music has evolved and what he will be presenting will not adhere to the traditional concert format. But he assured us that everything that will be presented would be a very sincere expression of their musical thoughts (or words to that effect). I have not listened to Sri TMK live in many, many years, but I have been following his evolution and people’s reactions to it through the many reviews on this forum. So, I knew what to expect, and went to understand and experience it.

But before I start with my views on the experience (note: it is not a review, and it was not a concert), I just wanted to provide some context for them: IMO (and just mine, and I may be completely wrong), there are at least three classes of performing musicians (these are not absolutes, but rather a general framework) – 1) a group of artists that believe that it is their sacred duty to use music as a means of salvation, not just for themselves, but also for the listeners. They believe that each note is a prayer, and they need to serve as the medium to present the prayer that is inherent in each composition as well as they can, to both God and the audience, sort of like a priest. Their attempt is to invoke the divine subject of the compositions they sing, using music as the means (‘advaita siddhiki amaratva labdhiki gAnamE sOpAnamu’ – music is the staircase that leads to the realization of adviatic principles and attainment of the divine); 2) a group that believes that music is solely for the purposes of entertainment with no other lofty means to fulfil; and 3) a group that believes music is not merely a means to divinity, but divinity itself, where the compositions are just means to realize the music and the divinity therein (here, I think ‘advaita siddhi and amaratva labdhi’ = music). A prime example of the first group is Smt. MSS, who succeeded brilliantly in invoking the divine subjects of the compositions each and every time she sang, and there are many others who achieve varying degrees of success using this approach. Thankfully, there are not too many in the second group that I am aware of. I think Sri TMK may belong to the last category, and with this rather simplistic explanation, the whole experience made perfect sense to me. (I suspect he is a much more complex person with more profund and convoluted reasons for what and why he does what he does!).

As VK says, the experience cannot be captured through lists. One point is that in yesterday’s concert, TMK and Sri RKSK used the vocalist-violinist approach in each segment. Another aspect that became clear is that what was happening on stage was a musical conversation on stage, with the main ‘dialogue’ if you will, occurring between Sri TMK and Sri RKSK, and Sri AP joining in at the right moments, with perfect anticipation and responsiveness. In this context, I think the experience will be heightened if the audience was privy to the ‘dialogue’ on stage (it is possible that I am not sufficiently versed with music to have understood what was happening).

The team began the evening with madhyamAvati – Sri TMK presented a brief outline, Sri RKSK and a short return, and Sri TMK launched into pAlincu kAmAkshi of Sri Syama Sastry. Very slow rendition savoring every musical moment. To people who exclaim –‘but that is usually sung at the end’, I just want to say that to me it was no different from the vazhuvUr school beginning their dance presentations with a tODaymangaLam! It was a very beautiful presentation.

Sri TMK then launched into yadukula kAmbhOdi (he announced the rAgam after allowing people sufficient time to identify it on their own) – very serene, very beautiful, with a lovelier (if possible) response from Sri RKSK. Just when I was anticipating ‘kAlai tUkki ninRADum deivamE’, he chose the vAra kRti of Sri Muttusvamy Diskshitar, divAkara tanujam – again, rendered at a very slow tempo – simply beautiful and soul stirring.

After that rather languorous beginning, Sri TMK sang an outline of a rAga – identified it as pUrNacandrika, and very quickly launched into one of the most beautiful tAnams I have heard in a while, with fantastic replies from Sri RKSK. I did not want it to end, but it did in a very unexpected way – at a signal from Sri TMK, Sri AP readied his mRdangam, and the team seamlessly launched into a very high-energy presentation of Puchi Sri Sinivasa Ieyangar’stillAna (?) – while people may quibble about the positioning of the tillAna, IMO, it was simply brilliant in concept and execution. I am surprised more dancers don’t use this approach, with a metered tAnam of course. Sri TMK and the team showed that they were capable of handling snagatis at jet-speed as well.
After that brief change of pace, Sri TMK sang an AlApana of kannaDagauLa (he announced it), and following a response from Sri RKSK, he launched into sArangA (I was sure it was sArangA, and he confirmed it) that was very well done both by him and Sri RKSK, after which he began one of the most exquisite mukhAri AlApanas I have ever heard (out of this world, IMO), and I kept thinking that too bad VK was missing it! After being drenched in the honeyed phrases of mukhAri, when Sri TMK began ‘entani nE varNintunu SabarI bhAgyam’, it was really a bit of an anti-climax. Nothing against the presentation at all, but the AlApana had scaled heights that would have been difficult to re-ascend.

After this, Sri TMK took up one of my favorite kRtis, the rather difficult, but beautiful caturdaSa rAgamAlika of Sri Dikshitar – once again presented in his trademark, slow tempo, savoring each note. Sri AP presented his tani – again, like VK said, I am sure it had so many hidden nuances, but being a bigger ignoramus in the area of laya, it was not evident to me. The way the tani ended, and Sri TMK sang the pallavi again was also very interesting a well-done.

This was followed by the bEgaDA padam, yArukkAgilum bhayamA of Vaidisvaran Koil Subbarama Iyer – in this composition, I think the ultra-slow pace, while conveying the essence of bEgaDa, was inimical to delivering the ‘devil-may-care, gossip-mongers be damned’ message of the nAyika. Suresh will be delighted to know that he sang ‘yarukkAhilum’! :)

Somewhere around this time, Sri TMK was deluged by a number of chits with requests from the audience. When he could not read what was on one of the chits provided a brief moment of levity.
He then sang kunitta puruvamum – (kharaharapriya?) – it was the least impactful piece of the concert for me, and followed it with a song that was totally new to me – Sri jAnaki patE in kharaharapriya (composer ?).

He then ‘played’ with the English note – singing the notes flat sometimes, and sometimes with gamakams – it was almost hindustAni-ish to me. The audience seemed to enjoy it immensely.

He then took up bhAgESri (brief outline) followed by Sri MDR’s sAgara Sayana vibhO (I think it was one of the requests) in a pace that was even slower than Sri MDR’s (if that is possible). At the end of this kRti, he seamlessly finished the concert with the SlOkam, mangalam kOsalEndrAya, in bhAgESri. And with that 3+ hours of serene music, and a blissful experience came to an end. To me it was 3+ hours when the artists provided sincere music (Sri TMK delivered on his promise) and took obvious pleasure in every step of their combined journeys.

As I have already mentioned, Sri RKSK was brilliant, whether following Sri TMK, or his own presentations, and in the ‘dialogue’ on stage.

I can’t say enough about Sri AP – his style (or perhaps the style he employs when accompanying Sri TMK) was just right with enough pauses, enough soft playing, and when needed, energetic support – he certainly elevated the experience. Another thing that was impressive to me was that Sri AP did not come off as the proverbial ‘wOh’ [1] when Sri TMK and Sri RKSK were having one of their dialogues; instead, he knew exactly when to step in and how. And I came away with one regret that Sri MDR did not have the opportunity of signing to the accompaniment of a mRdangam artist like Sri AP.

I do want to say that while the presentation may have been unorthodox, the AlApanas, and kRtis were rendered in the most orthodox of manners (IMO).

And, despite all the controversies, and the two schools of thought regarding Sri TMK's music, if the standing ovation the team received at the end is any indication, then, the audience in NJ can say that we enjoyed the experience, and like the nAyika in the padam he sang, we proclaim this, and say, ‘yArukkAgilum bhayama, idu enna rahasiyamA?’!

[1] I am dating myself – but the reference is from the title of an old movie ‘pati patni aur wOh’ – where the wOh is the unwanted third, the mistress

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Ravi, wonderful write up. I enjoyed reading it very much. You are right, I am quite envious that he chose Mukhari for the NJ concert! When I read 'devil-may-care..', I figured that line speaks to TMK's approach and you may use it later. And you did for a very good effect!

Interesting to see he is staying away from scalar ragas as we discussed in the other thread.

In addition to the readily apparent format differences, I thought he is eschewing the concert feature of singing a kOrvai at the end of kalpanaswaras ( the 3-3 pattern repeated 3 times ). That was the case in Chicago, did you happen to notice it one way or the other?

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Road untraveled where others do not dare is TMK approach. I like it.

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rshankar wrote: He then sang kunitta puruvamum – (kharaharapriya?) – it was the least impactful piece of the concert for me, and followed it with a song that was totally new to me – Sri jAnaki patE in kharaharapriya (composer ?).
Ravi
Janaiki pathE in kharaharapriya is a papanAsam sivan composition . This song was popularized by Radha jayalakshmi and also DKJ in the historic past . Now many musicians sing.

Thank you for your review . You and VK are great assets in writing with such passion , keep them coming . (*)
In jest I feel like saying to VK and you - Lemontla fuse Pochu ,edison la kooda fuse thirumbi varala. ;)

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Thanks, Ravi for a wonderful report. I too feel sad that VK missed the mukhAri. It is some consolation that he didn't sing elAvatAra :)
And the poornachandrika tillAnA by Poochi is such a work of art. I can only imagine what it must have been like preceded by a spectacular tAnam.

Now, I can't wait for his SF bay area concert in a couple of weeks!

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Thank you! After all, everything we share (this one included) is in the spirit of 'yAm peTRa inbam.....'!
Ramesh, I cannot wait for your review, which I am sure will be in a league of its own. :)

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It is some consolation that he didn't sing elAvatAra :)
:) Image

As the next best thing, I checked Spottify whose elAvatAra they have. Guess what, they have an hour long one by TMK! (from his dasavataram album from 2009. I was not aware of that till now)
This also reminded me of the rain check I have from Shashikiran and Ganesh. At a 'chits only' concert, they sang Mukhari but not elAvatAra. Shashikiran said they know the song and will sing it next time.

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Ravi,
Thanks for your detailed and descriptive input. Have to mull over the kinds of musicians you have classified :) TMK seems to put even rasikAs to work as as he does with his fellow musicians on stage! I am glad he also put the rasikAs in the mood to appreciate his style of singing even more by announcing at the beginning of the concert what to expect :)

MukhAri somehow got to be labeled an azhugai (sob) rAgA at some point of time :( If well sung, it IS a 'move you to tears' rAgA. Emotively, one of the best.

Every time I hear a good mukhAri, like you folks, I think of our spring cuckoo not being there. I am yet to hear ElAvathAra these days, which would make me miss him even more!

Rajesh,
See how your detailed minutes for each song and its components have no room in TMK's concert reviews. Understandable, because they reflect the format of the presentation...;)
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Just read in Badari's review that Ra & gA in their Bengaluru concert had taken up mukhAri as the main (AlApana,N S) with KshINamai!

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Few days back RV sang an exquisite mukhari. It's on parivadini

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As one who was at this "musical event" (not a kutcheri), I agree with the general sentiment that the music we heard was honest and, in my assessment, extraordinary. I am of the opinion (and this is my opinion) that Carnatic music as delivered to the rasikas in a sabha might have turned a corner if what we witnessed spreads among the upcoming talented people. Since I had not heard Vidwan TMK live in the last 2 or 3 years, the change was obvious, refreshing and evidence of a serious artist exploring new experiences within the grammar and tradition of our great heritage, like a scientist. I think (my feeling again) that this is work in progress. I also wish for fellow "musician-scientists" joining the research. Ultimately, good music, whatever form it takes, will endure.

On a non-musical subject, I am surprised, unless I missed it, that no one commented on the seating of the artists on the dais. Vidwans Shriramkumar and Arun Prakash were not sitting on either side of the main artist, facing each other as has been the custom in these musical events. They were facing the audience. Am I reading too much into this or is it an effort at democratization of the platform. It appears the musical event was not conceived around the idea of the "main artist" (TMK) singing, accompanied/assisted by RKS and AP. No, it was a musical collaboration among equals. A noble idea long overdue on the musical stage!

Ramaprasad

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Ramaprasad: I noticed that seating arrangement in the Chicago concert which I wondered about in the review thread of that concert ( where I posted the picture showing that arrangement ).

Actually I was going to ask Ravi if that was the case at NJ as well. Now that you have confirmed it, I guess it is a thing and done intentionally. My speculation about the reasoning behind that is same as yours.

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Sorry, Vasanthakokilam, I missed your observation in the Chicago event review. I am glad I am not alone in this interpretation of the seating on the stage

Ramaprasad

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rshankar wrote:October 11, 2014
Vocal: Sri T. M. Krishna (TMK)
Violin: Sri R. K. Sriram Kumar (RKSP)
mRdangam: Sri Arun Prakash (AP)
Venue: Edisopn HS, Edison, NJ
Organizers: CMANA



IMO (and just mine, and I may be completely wrong), there are at least three classes of performing musicians (these are not absolutes, but rather a general framework) – 1) a group of artists that believe that it is their sacred duty to use music as a means of salvation, not just for themselves, but also for the listeners. They believe that each note is a prayer, and they need to serve as the medium to present the prayer that is inherent in each composition as well as they can, to both God and the audience, sort of like a priest. Their attempt is to invoke the divine subject of the compositions they sing, using music as the means (‘advaita siddhiki amaratva labdhiki gAnamE sOpAnamu’ – music is the staircase that leads to the realization of adviatic principles and attainment of the divine); 2) a group that believes that music is solely for the purposes of entertainment with no other lofty means to fulfil; and 3) a group that believes music is not merely a means to divinity, but divinity itself, where the compositions are just means to realize the music and the divinity therein (here, I think ‘advaita siddhi and amaratva labdhi’ = music). A prime example of the first group is Smt. MSS, who succeeded brilliantly in invoking the divine subjects of the compositions each and every time she sang, and there are many others who achieve varying degrees of success using this approach. Thankfully, there are not too many in the second group that I am aware of. I think Sri TMK may belong to the last category, and with this rather simplistic explanation, the whole experience made perfect sense to me. (I suspect he is a much more complex person with more profund and convoluted reasons for what and why he does
T M Krishna is on record saying that he can sing about Coca-Cola and bring out the raga bhava.

That being the case, I put him in Category 2 among the three categories of musicians you have listed.

May I suggest that you send in a request for him to sing the Coke commercial "I would like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony"? Then you can truly say that "It's the real thing". X(

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Ramaprasad wrote:
On a non-musical subject, I am surprised, unless I missed it, that no one commented on the seating of the artists on the dais. Vidwans Shriramkumar and Arun Prakash were not sitting on either side of the main artist, facing each other as has been the custom in these musical events.

Ramaprasad
Well, you missed the hilarity when T M K last sang during the December Season at the Music Academy. The main item was "Nagalingam Bhajeham" in Sankarabharanam. Sriram Kumar was seated conventionally and every time TMK waved his left hand at him while singing "Nagalingam", Sriram Kumar instinctively drew back from TMK's outstretched hand.

What a pity that the Music Academy bans photography and videography. I was at the perfect angle to witness this and am sorry that the episode is lost to posterity!

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Command performance, come hand performance?
The Academy prevailed then?

Kidding, just kidding. Couldn't resist the pun, folks :(
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A beautiful narrative that makes me wistful that I wasn't there!
Ravi,
I have heard the Purnachandrika tillana from TMK in Sydney years ago. This is one of my favourites and KVN also brought much pep into it. And TMK with AP is very good in that.

TMK and RKSK have researched MD and SSP. In fact I want to get hold of their compilation of the entire MD repertoire.

RKSK gave a full concert length lecdem on the chaturdasha ragamalika sometime back. I know enough about that song to know how expertly they render it.

The fully vibrant, big range, clear voice and profound manodharma of TMK makes him a master of mukhAri, shahAnA, bAgEshri and such ragas. Enough evidence in "Margazhi Raga" movie!

I have that ElAvatAra CD!

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For a jam session, why at all a mangalam is required.

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It appears the musical event was not conceived around the idea of the "main artist" (TMK) singing, accompanied/assisted by RKS and AP. No, it was a musical collaboration among equals.
It is still being billed as a TMK vocal concert with accompanists. It is not a band like Beatles or Shakthi. TMK is only ordering RKSK to play something. It would be nice if AP also joined and said "Sankeerna nadai pallavi paadu" or something like that :))

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Fat chance :-) I have heard TMK exclaim loudly "edam ellam pakkadhe" when doing ragamalika swaras.

Splendid Elavatara as part of a terrific concert here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... iKiWEK3OQG

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rshankar Sir
You said "And I came away with one regret that Sri MDR did not have the opportunity of signing to the accompaniment of a mRdangam artist like Sri AP." Please listen to Sri Ummayalapuram Sivaraman Sir's accompaniment to Sri MDR and also read about how he got the training to play ati(atyanta ati) vilambakaalam and check your observation and the statement.

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rshankar wrote:Sri MDR did not have the opportunity of signing to the accompaniment of a mRdangam artist like Sri AP...
8-| :-@ :(( :-Q thank god for small mercies!

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Amritha Murali's parivadini upload has a v good ElAvatAra (SAFE Oct 14)

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Thanks, sankark--and I like the young lady's singing too...

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@munirao2001:

He is wondering how idly would taste with gongura chutney & you are recommending milagai podi

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sureshvv wrote:@munirao2001:

He is wondering how idly would taste with gongura chutney & you are recommending milagai podi
:) Thank you for saying it with a culinary example!

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One thing that was very obvious was that Sri TMK really traverses the octaves with ease - not for him the problems of some who have to struggle in the lower octaves (rather like keeping a marshmallow under water), or others whose voice thins out, or breaks in the upper.

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Ravi,
"Keeping a marshmallow under water"--nice imagery!
To go with "tangerine trees and marmalade skies" :)

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Arasi, trust you to come up with a psychedelic Beatles reference to go with that imagery. I have often wondered how you might refer to the girl with kaleidoscope eyes... KanchadaLAyadAkshi?

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Ramesh,
See how we (me, for sure) fall prey for any puns and prAsams?
This is how my mind worked in this instance, I think:

1: marshmallow, marmalade (tangerine too)--all are edibles but the first two rhyme.

kaleidoscope and kanjadala--now, your turn!

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Arasi: Jest aside, many CM compositions use very similar imagery as being "in the sky with diamonds".

See for example: "ramA bhAratI nayanAM rAjIva candra vadanAM"or "hEma ratnAbharaNa dhAriNi" or "bhramAtmaka viSva jananIm". Fortunately, no one has sung of plasticine porters or looking glass ties :)

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When I first heard the Beatles sing of Lucy, I thought of BhArathi's KaNNammA with cuTTum vizhich chuDar, where the midnight sky looked like a deep blue sari studded with diamonds--paTTuk karu nIlap puDavai pathitha nalvayiaram, naTTa naDu niSiyil theriyum naTchathirangaL!

In a kaleidoscope, patterns blossom, like the lotus petals bloom...:)

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sureshvv
He was desiring for the sugar for iddly and I tried to counsel him to yearn for the cocanut chutney. You love serving the molagai podi, instead. :|
Sometimes, put up with odd old man in young groups ;)

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mahavishnu wrote:I have often wondered how you might refer to the girl with kaleidoscope eyes... KanchadaLAyadAkshi?
Since the kaleidoscope imagery changes constantly, how about hanUmAn's description of sItA's eyes - sphurat indIvarEkshaNa (quivering, lotus/nIlOtpalam-like eyes)? Or just cancalAkshI?

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rshankar wrote:One thing that was very obvious was that Sri TMK really traverses the octaves with ease - not for him the problems of some who have to struggle in the lower octaves (rather like keeping a marshmallow under water), or others whose voice thins out, or breaks in the upper.
Or yet others who have to increase their volume steadily as they climb to the upper register until it sounds like they are bellowing the notes out at the top.

The fact is that Shri TMK has a marvelous head voice that he uses to great effect in the upper register while using his chest voice for the lower reaches. All the other ways of singing in the upper register will eventually cause the vocal chords to wear out, thereby limiting the "sweetness" career of the person's voice. But there are not things that one normally discusses in the context of Carnatic singing. :-(

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I often feel concerned about the abuse of the voice among Carnatic artists, especially some great singers of today. So many of them have been suffering a loss of ability at a very young age - 45-50. It seems sad and unnecessary.

I suppose there is a real need for true voice training among our musicians. This could make a huge difference in the popularity of CM.

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