Repeated logical lapse in the Lec-dem by Sangita Kalacharya Smt. Seeta Rajan on 26-12-2014 in the Music Academy, Chennai

[msakella]

I have gone through the audio recording of the above and felt very disappointed and very sad of the very poor proceedings.

Even the Lec-dem held on 21-12-2014 at the same place itself proved that many of the musicians are more of performer’s perspective and very less of teacher’s perspective thus doing much harm than help to the poor and ignorant aspirants. Now, the same has again been confirmed by this present Lec-dem. By this, many may come out to condemn my statement but nobody comes out to know the bitter facts of it by arranging an open discussion in this respect.

For example, in the examinations of the medical students, while the examiner of the MBBS students must know what an MBBS student knows the examiner of the MS students must know what the MS student doesn’t know. In the same manner, while all the general musicians can, now, tell what she elaborated in her Lec-dem a musician with higher calibre of teacher’s perspective can only tell what she could not do. There lies the difference.

Like in the last year’s panel discussion, even though the true well-wisher of music, Dr. Pappu Venugopalrao, being the Secretary of the prestigious Music Academy, again brought out my controversial reference the speaker simply beat around the bush but could not give a justifiable answer as she doesn’t know or understand even the alphabets of my novel and logical methods in learning our music. This is the very sad state of affairs of our country. amsharma

[hnbhagavan]

I could not understand your point and perhaps you can elaborate a little more on the questions raised by you and the response from the speaker.

[msakella]

Dear brother-member, hnbhagavan,

At this fag end of my life my main aim is to truly help the poor aspirant to the maximum as his/her umpteen problems in learning music have never been solved in his/her favour. Mainly aiming at this only I have been writing all my posts in this forum. If you go through all my posts in this forum you can very easily understand this. But, as all our professional musicians are well aware of these facts, none of them readily comes out to participate in any such open discussion in this respect lest it helps only to spill out his/her own beans. Being a professional performer and teacher (cheater or teaser for much of my life) as I am also well aware of this fact, I always insist upon an open discussion in which way any of these musicians always try to avoid.

If such an open discussion is held mainly keeping the welfare of the aspirants in view and if all the participants take an oath to sincerely and honestly strive hard in fulfilling this aim I shall certainly attend it and do the needful.

But, my past experience in this respect reveals that all these music-teachers unanimously boycott to attend such a discussion in saving their own skin. As my main aim itself is to truly and truthfully serve the aspirant I never hesitate to attend such a meeting and to do the needful. amsharma

[pperumal]

dear msakella-ji,

if you dont mind - can you please add more substance to what you intend to say?
honestly, to my untrained brain, i could not understand your insinuations at smt seeta rajan.

- PP.

[hnbhagavan]

The main point Sri Msakella seems to inform us is about the methods of teaching adopted traditionally which in his opinion takes number of years and is more dependent on the student rather than the teacher.Most of the people are good performers and not good teachers.He has devised a new method of teaching and has successfully produced a number of students in a short span of time.Even though many learned persons such as Sri ravikiran ji have acknowledged his contribution,he is yet to be heard at Chennai Music academy.

[msakella]

Dear brother-member, pperumal,

As written by our brother-member, hnbhagavan, if you go through all my posts in the threads, AMS Easy Methods-2007-Teaching & Learning Methods, Teaching/Learning Karnataka Violin under the main thread, Music School and other threads you can very easily understand my point.

However, while elaborating it a little more, I would like to make it clear that all our poor and ignorant aspirants have all along been cheated deliberately under the guise of music-teaching. In my extensive research this has undoubtedly been proved. But, very sadly, all our musicians want to deliberately turn a deaf ear on this crucial issue and to continue their harmful and suicidal acts perennially.

To put it very simply, by learning music for only one year that too at the rate of only two classes per week and with the minimum dependency upon the teacher while several kids are able to efficiently learn the system of notation, to sing intricate Swarakalpana and Ragalapana, is it not cheating or teasing if the music-teachers wantonly elongate the process of learning music for many years. Can any musician on earth justifiably answer my question?

However, I want to communicate with all our brothers and sisters of our music-field in bringing the un-known problems of our poor aspirants to their notice in turn to make them help our poor aspirants very efficiently. As my two CDs uploaded to ‘http://www.sangeethamshare.org/chandra/ ... hods-2007/’ and all my 700+ videos uploaded to ‘youtube.com/user/msakella’ speak volumes of my contribution to our music I never crave to speak in the Music Academy as I cannot speak fluently in English like in my mother tongue Telugu and also as I am misfit to speak in that institution. amsharma

[venkatakailasam]

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[msakella]

Venkatakailasam sir, Thanks a lot. amsharma

[RSNandakumar]

Pranams to the great AMSharma garu,
I have been one of the beneficiaries of the method Vidwan AMSharma has propounded. I have also been a very avid follower of the threads about his methods and the consequent reactions.
I too had been a little resistant in adopting his methods in the past. but now, after having gone through the method and acclimatizing myself and my students to the system, I now find that AMSharma's method is very good and usable. The traditional method as is mentioned in these threads and debated upon by some is the method that a music teacher or the student has already been into for some time (indeed, for a very long time in the case of a music teacher) and hence the resistance to adopt or even enquire into the 'radical' system that AMS proposes is understandable.
Is it not true that all music teachers, students and their wards want Sangita vidya to be promoted, perpetuated and learned as soon as possible ? the answer is always a big 'yes'. While this is the case, the question is how and by whom. if one looks into the art history of our country, Learning of music or any of its jnatishastras, especially Karnataka Music, has always had two streams (traditional and so-called 'Radical') that co-existed but eventually merged into one to be carried forward. Art historians would perhaps agree with me that what was once a tradition eventually transformed, transfused or even transmigrated to become a seemingly different, fresh, plausible and Stabler new evolution that was hitherto called as radical. this traversal is indeed been very beneficial. the new system, if it is good and accepted by the music fraternity of the times, survives and goes into the future for further evolution.
AMSharma's method indeed deserves to be accorded this respect. Some of us in Karnataka have gratefully accepted and adopted this method.
under my guidance, One of my students who is studying MA in Music, is now writing a dissertation based on an interdisciplinary study between an enquiry into an innovative Sama learning in tandem with its 'derivative' Karnataka music with reference to AMSharma's method. It is an enquiry inspired by my father Mahamahopadhyaya Dr. R.Sathyanarayana.
I thank all who have enlivened and enlightened through these threads in 'Rasikas'. I offer my humble pranams to Sharma garu.
nandakumar

[munirao2001]

RSNandakumar Sir,
I am extremely happy to know that none other than the great maestro Sri R.Sathyanarayana Sir is also guiding the dissertation with reference to great maestro Sri AMSharma garu's very innovative 'AMS Easy Methods'. I have realized its efficacy in meeting the aspiration of many talented students, who can not afford longer terms of music education and also are hard pressed for the time pursuing music education along with other professional and academic education. My attempts for a serious review and discussions for the evaluation of 'AMS Easy Methods' and its adaptation in academic music education systems among the music fraternity in Bengaluru has not been successful till date. There is nil response from leading and popular practitioners and institutions in Bengaluru.
I am fully aware of the reputation of yourself, revered RASA Sir and RAVI Sir, who command high respect in the Karnatic Music fraternity. I am requesting you to talk to the event managers in Bengaluru and Mysuru for organizing a Meet on 'AMS Easy Methods'-Lecture and Demonstration; select students performance; Q & A session;panel discussion. The meet's objective will not be to criticize the other systems and its practitioners, but to determine and recommend, on merits.
Please feel free to communicate with me.
munirao2001

Sandhyavandanam Madhva Muni Rao
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[msakella]

Interested persons can go through the following url. amsharma
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... 22#p276422