COMMIT AND DONATE FOR AMS EASY METHODS LEC-DEMO-CHENNAI

[munirao2001]

Dr.Prasanna Mantraratnam garu and V.V.Saraswathi garu,

Thanks for joining this noble cause and making pledges. Total pledges received are INR 9,000/-. Need additional pledges for INR 41,000/- . If the response continues to be abysmally poor, I intend to withdraw the appeal in Rasikas.org., but continue the efforts, in private.

munirao2001

[vichu1947]

...........each and every Tom and Dick is coming out to find fault with me only but not with the real culprits. What do you think of me? What is wrong with it if I call a thief ‘thief’? Let him/her prove himself/herself not a thief. Until such time I shall certainly call him ‘thief’.

Respected Akella ji,
namaskarams

you are entitled to your views that the music teachers today are 'culprits' and 'thiefs' but before that, are you sure they are ? Lack of knowledge of a technique does not make one a culprit, right ? Let me elaborate.

When you speak with so much conviction that your new method is very effective and will accelerate learning, I am sure it will. But were you not teaching the old method for so many decades. Does that mean during those days, you were also a 'culprit' and a 'thief' ??

To give you an analogy, in those days knee surgeries were done as 'open surgeries' which lead to longer recovery time , more complications. Then came orthroscopic surgery by which surgery is done (for some conditions) through a few key holes (minimally invasive). The recovery time by this method became very short. Even today, many surgeons are doing open surgery only, because they don't know orthroscopy . That does not mean they are 'culprits' and 'thiefs' ?

Adoption of any new technique will always take time and may face resistance as human being have inertia towards any change. The proof of pudding is always in eating. Instead of repeatedly saying that your new approach is more effective and the practitioners of old approach are all 'culprits' and 'thiefs' , please bring up couple of students who can come to public platform very fast using your technique. Let them get on the stage in say , 2 years (or whatever that short duration is) , thanks to AMS approach. There will be some media coverage. Then parents and teachers will start making a note of this approach.

Till then, it will be considered as a 'çlaim' only. By calling other teachers and musicians names, you are jeopardising any chances of AMS taking off in the near future.

My 2 cents ....

- Vishy

[vvssaraswathi]

Namaste to all members of Rasikas.org

Sri Vishy garu, we have seen Sri Akella garu calling himself as culprit for many decades before coming up with new approach. In his reviews, he himself says that he has wasted many students' time for 40 years in teaching with olden methods. As you rightly said, any change needs some time to accept and digest . as I understand, Sri AMS garu's thirst is to get this to small children so that the process can be fastened, with no blame against specific music teachers.

But to get this to small children, I think it has to be communicated / elaborated in work shops to music teachers so that these can be analyzed better. Targeting children is good, but through teachers, it may reach more children as well. The aim should not be to pin point the teachers, but to share the techniques and methods.

The current generation children are running with jet speed , entering into multiple areas. So, this kind of time bound music education may benefit the students in short span of time, while they can continue with their studies as well.

If a group of music teachers can meet and openly discuss the consequences , pros and cons of existing methods Vs new methods, this may serve the purpose of serving children in lesser time.

Regards
Saraswathi

[msakella]

vichu1947 dear,

Who does harmful things to little kids are certainly culprits or rogues or cheaters – what not? Without the proper knowledge a person must have done such harmful things to the little kids. But, as the harm has already been done by this culprit’s or rogue’s or cheater’s inefficiency and the kid has also been suffering accordingly this culprit or rogue or cheater cannot and should not miss calling his/her culprit or rogue or cheater etc. This is but natural.

The same thing happened even in my case for more than 40 years and thus, certainly I was also a culprit or rogue or cheater etc., etc. However, later, only by the grace of the Almighty, having become realized and having entirely given up the lucrative artistic field, strived hard for days and nights for nearly 20 years, found these easy methods in learning our music and uploaded 800 videos to ‘youtube’ and two audio CDs to ‘sangeethamshare’ which are available free of cost to all the aspirants all over the globe. And, as vvssaraswathi also rightly wrote in her post, I wrote the same in my several posts in several threads of this forum. But, without going through all these posts or even questioning the present real culprits you are asking me several questions. Then, who is the real culprit, tell me dear?

In the same manner, without going through all the videos of our very efficient kids being uploaded to ‘youtube’ since many years, now, you are asking me to produce our talented kids. Then, who is the real culprit, tell me dear?

In the same manner, even though I have been writing hundreds of articles in this respect and in this forum to properly discuss at length and very truly and honestly help our poor aspirants very fast none of these professional-musicians or the professional-teachers are coming out to find out ways and means in helping them but are enjoying the fun as spectators or readers or even anonymous readers sometimes questioning me only but not the real culprits at all, instead of doing something constructive. Then, who is the real culprit, tell me dear? amsharma.

[vichu1947]

dear msakella gaaru,

vichu1947 dear,
....... uploaded 800 videos to ‘youtube’ and two audio CDs to ‘sangeethamshare’ which are available free of cost to all the aspirants all over the globe. And, as vvssaraswathi also rightly wrote in her post, I wrote the same in my several posts in several threads of this forum.

Please explore a Lecdem slot in Music Academy during upcoming music season. Or explore a Friday review coverage of your techniques. Uploading in sangeethamshare, writing in rasikas.org are great but is not going to give you / your techniques any prominence / credibility.

In the same manner, without going through all the videos of our very efficient kids being uploaded to ‘youtube’ since many years, now, you are asking me to produce our talented kids. Then, who is the real culprit, tell me dear?

If any student of yours has got graded in AIR or if any student of yours has sung in Music Academy during music season , please list them. There are a million videos in youtube of kids of all sizes singing. One can not be going through all of them to say , Yes AMS works better than normal methods.

In the same manner, even though I have been writing hundreds of articles in this respect and in this forum to properly discuss at length and very truly and honestly help our poor aspirants very fast none of these professional-musicians or the professional-teachers are coming out to find out ways and means in helping them but are enjoying the fun as spectators or readers or even anonymous readers sometimes questioning me only but not the real culprits at all, instead of doing something constructive. Then, who is the real culprit, tell me dear? amsharma.

Your intention may be noble but your approach is not correct. As long as you call them as thieves, culprits , rogues , cheaters , no one will come to your support. They are teaching what they know, and if you technique is better , you have to approach them courteously.

If you are thnking of a big bang approach where all music teachers will assemble in Music Academy and you will defeat them in a Q&A session and walk out gloriously while all teachers prostate before you, sorry such things can happen in dream only. Slow and steady is the only way to make a change.

My response may appear blunt, but I am suggesting this as a well wisher . Please explore some music schools such as Brhaddhvani or organisations such as Gaanapriya foundation, who may be open to listen to you and may be able to host lecdems of you.

[pmantra]

Sri vichu1947 ji
The following are the links of down trodden society kids who were novice to music and were trained to this extraordinary level in just a week days summer music camp.They never happened to listen to classical music even. Just Sri. AMS ji trained them with combinatorics system in a very planned manner from MAY 1st to MAY 10th 2015. A very recent achievement. Its indeed a gaint plunge. As you asked to refer, I , being witnessed such a grand progress, am pasting these links.
This teaching method is the most helpful method for this generation for sure.

https://youtu.be/pL10Yqm0p5E
https://youtu.be/wEIGy5a8y4M
https://youtu.be/yh7PcjS6-t8
https://youtu.be/Nbf-rsEf6fk
http://youtu.be/dya7e8q7QP4
https://youtu.be/eD-Nx_uek_4
https://youtu.be/_huk81eGSmM

Dr. Prasanna Mantraratnam.
Music Teacher
TSWREIS .

[pmantra]

AMS-Kids' singing or playing Varnas & Kritis: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBBE5956CF6D69AC3

These are a few more
Who adopted AMS methodologies.

[pmantra]

AMS-Kids' rendering Jatis & Svaras: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9F2A697417E07C09

[msakella]

vichu1947 dear,
I truly appreciate your enthusiasm and frankness. Fortunately, we have very few true enthusiasts like you, Sri Munirao, Sri Vasanthakokilam etc.,etc., who are non-professionals and are truthfully interested in the welfare of the kids and our music without any biased reservations like conservative or egoistic or regional or any other harmful temperaments. That is why, even baring with my harshness, you all are coming out very kindly and affectionately suggesting things to soften the atmosphere and to get the things done amicably.

As you are non-professionals you can never understand our professional-musicians and there lies the problem. You all think that we all are the incarnations of Tyagaraja, Dikshitar, Shyamasastry, Ramadas, Purandaradas etc., etc., and you never even imagine that we all are just opposite at one time or the other. That is why, since my entrance into Rasikas, even though I have very honestly been appealing time and again to all the music community to do the needful in saving the invaluable time, energy and money of the kids in learning our music none of them ever came out and acted positively. No professional-musician, except under exceptional pressure, ever comes out to do so in this respect. This, I, with all my past experience as a professional-violin-accompanist having successfully managed with hundreds of main-artists and also as a professional-music-teacher having already ruined many kids un-knowingly and, now, amazingly shaping them with unbelievable talents, am very well aware of them. With the same experience, I, now, try to answer your questions, dear.

With all my past experience as I am very well aware that the Music academy, Chennai is mostly dominated by the musicians with conservative,, egoistic and regional temperaments, I never crave either to demonstrate any thing in that institution or to educate them as it has already been proved that they all are of performer’s perspective, nil of teacher’s perspective and always do anything and everything for their own self-aggrandisement only. I never crave even for any kind of publicity.

As there are no teachers, but performers who always strive hard for their own self-aggradisement but not at all to efficiently and honestly serve our society, the Music Academy, Chennai, in my view, has no credibility at all. That is why, at the first instance, I, then and there, have blatantly refused to receive the TTK Award. But, on the pursuance of Dr. Pappu only, I have received it.

Singing in the Music Academy, Chennai or getting grade in AIR is not at all the criteria for a true artist who truly works hard for the art sake.

The honest people very well know the value of AMS methods and such people only bring their kids to me. In the same manner, I have trained the 11 years old kid, Chi. Shreenidhi, grand-daughter of our brother-member, Sri Nageshwaran, weekly twice on Skype for one year and made her sing a knowledgeable mini-concert in one of the Rasikas meet in Chennai. Again, in the same manner, I have also trained the 7 years old kid, Chi. Rishabh Ranganadhan, Chicago, weekly twice on Skype for two years and made him play a knowledgeable mini-violin-concert at Sri Parthasarathy Swamy Sabha, Chennai.

This is God blessed technique and HE does everything and I never bother to approach any of the teachers as I am very well aware of them and more over as I need the aspirants only but not this teachers. I need the support of honest gentlemen only.

However, I never intend to defeat any of our musicians as we all are bothers and sisters of the same Mother Music. We may have differences of opinions but not enmity or hatred.

It is really unbearable and very severely heartrending to see any musician prostrate before another musician.

I know many organizations as you have suggested. But, as I already wrote above, as I am very well aware of their covertly acts, I never like to approach them. As you very clearly wrote, it takes its own slow and steady course of action as destined by the Almighty.

Shirdi Ke Saibaba very kindly and affectionately blessed me with his Darshan in my dream, with the unsolved topic ‘Talaprastara’ and with the present un-known qualitative methods in learning our music in which, unbelievably to all, the teacher should not and need not sing Sa or Pa even once in any of the classes.

I am extremely grateful to you for all your kind suggestions. Thanks a lot for your kind attention in this respect. amsharma

[eesha]

Sri AM Sharma garu,

namaste. I am Sridharan,managing trustee of Gaanapriya Foundation ( http://www.gaanapriya.in/ )

Please provide your contact number, I will explore with you how Gaanapriya foundation can partner with you and take AMS teaching methods to more students

- SS

[pmantra]

Thats wowwwable sridharanji.
Great people dont do different things rather they do things differently.
thats a great idea sirjiii.
Dr. Prasanna Mantraratnam.

[msakella]

Dear Shri Shridharan,

Namaste. Very nice to receive your kind invitation to work together in serving our people efficiently and honestly. My phone numbers are - Land: 040-27054232 & Mobile: 9908822992. Welcome to speak to you.

From the beginning Shri Madhvamunirao, son of our veteran vocalist late Sandhyavandanam Shreenivasarao, has been striving very hard in this affair. He has honestly been trying to arrange this Lec-dem in Chennai. His phone number is Cell:+919845336203. I shall be very happy if you kindly contact him and do the needful in this affair. We both shall co-operate with you in every possible manner.

Thank you for your timely co-operation. amsharma

[srkris]

Thanks everyone for sharing your support. I note that this thread has taken a very distasteful turn with members alleging bad faith on one another. I will not be allowing this kind of speech from continuing here any longer as it damages the atmosphere in rasikas.org, which I cannot take lightly.

If anybody wants to pitch in with support for this good cause, please contact Sri Akella, Sri Muni Rao or Sri Sridharan directly and take it forward.

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