Violin accompaniment for Raghavendra Swami

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Rsachi
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Violin accompaniment for Raghavendra Swami

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Anybody saw this movie where Rajni acts as Raghavendra Swami (born est.1595-1601CE)?

There is a violin accompanist for him in the movie!

No wonder people claim India invented the violin. At least Indian cinema thinks so.

harimau
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Indians do get carried away!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=89S57vMXo3w

Sundara Rajan
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Haven't we all heard that "Nero played on the fiddle when Rome was burning", centuries before violin was invented ?!

Rsachi
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Harimau,
what a video! with all that car debris littering Bombay, no doubt all drains are clogged and there is frequent unmanageable flooding. The only solution is to remake Endiran there so his laser eyes will drill through all the muck and clear the pathways.

Sundara Rajan,
i have reliably learnt that Ravana was a friend of Nero's and had lent him the Ravanaastra. Ravana used to travel in the Pushpaka Vimana and had open landing rights in the large Roman avenues. :D

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If Raghavendra svAmin can play a post-RaghunAtha-nAyaka veeNai [which was most probably manufactured by MuraLi musicals or Aruna musicals, depending on where this film was shot], then why not violin accompaniment. RaghunAtha Nayaka maybe gifted one of his newly fashioned Veena-s to the pontiff who was slightly his junior. Maybe they met in KumbhakoNam. Maybe Raghavendra svAmi played Jayantasena to please the Nayaka. Maybe the film is a consequence of this breakthrough in research on early Modern South India.

And Raghavendra's playing this veena is more plausible than Siva(ji) playing the veena in a pre-diluvian Madurai, in the tiruviLaiyADal movie. Or Arjuna playing it in BabhruvAhana, while crooning a song that is a ripoff from Papanasan Sivan's 'Appan avadarita kathAmRtam'.

The number of historical/mythological films set in a period pre-17th century that use the modern veeNa are countless. I have seen a kannaDa production of bhAsa's svapna-vAsavadatta wherein udayana's ghOSavati too, was a cardboard and thermocole reproduction of our familiar version. This is maybe a good time to look at Raja Ravi varma's Saraswati.

Rsachi
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Keerthi,
By the way I saw it on Yoga Day. Patanjali clearly states that time (and hence past present and future) yields to a true yogi. That explains the "anachronism" for Swamiji's Raghunatha Veena.
And obviously Rajni has always transcended time.

By the way I have found movies featuring CM use compositions of Vasudevachar or even later composers. They seem to keep the audience in mind.

I welcome your views on the violin. Please watch the video here:
https://youtu.be/7mJbIK1ASdk

The accompanists are acting better than Rajni... Perhaps real musicians!

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The accompanists are acting better than Rajni... Perhaps real musicians!
I doubt it . No musician can better Rajni .On the Veena or even the violin.
You know why ?
His fingers are like lightening . They Never strike the same place twice

Rsachi
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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varsha wrote:The accompanists are acting better than Rajni... Perhaps real musicians!

I doubt it . No musician can better Rajni .On the Veena or even the violin.
You know why ?
His fingers are like lightening . They Never strike the same place twice
Here is a good example of how to make music where the same note is never played again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RENk9PK06AQ

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What do you know!
They certainly needed a page turner for this one :)

Rsachi
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Curious experience, thanks Mahavishnu.
By the way, I don't know if it was just me, but I comprehended a pattern of accented lines somewhat like a poem with each line ending with an inflected high note followed by a small pause. So a laya pattern. Did you see it too?

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Interesting point, Sachi. I hadn't noticed it. I will listen again more carefully.

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There should be a couple of more Rajnikanth jokes on that (if you haven't read the most ridiculously funny ones, many of which are imported from Chuck Norris jokes) : http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/chuck-n ... p-50-facts (Be warned, it's the funniest thing I have ever read, worse than laughing gas :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )

1) When Rajnikanth plays the violin, he doesn't need to search for the correct notes. The strings tune themselves to wherever his finger lands.
2) Rajnikanth is the only main artiste who can ask for accompanying instruments which history claims did not exist at the time and get them. Why? Because he told history that they DID exist then.
3) Rajnikanth never sings an apaswaram or goes out of shruti. There are only apa-tamburas.
4) Rajnikanth can play a continuously sustained note on an acoustic veena.

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Chuck Norris jokes cracked me up :)

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Rsachi
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Yes PRCM! I had read this in their website long back.
Since many wonderful things developed in the west can actually be traced back to ideas and incentions in ancient India, i am quite certain stringed instruments like the guitar and violin originated in India.

But the joke is that in the video it is almost a cutcheri by Raghavendra Swami with the modern violin which was something that happened much later, only in later 18th century :D

By the way did you know that 8c CE stone image in Tirumkudal could well have been the inspiration for its son of the soil T. Chowdiah? He hailed from Tirumkudal and his mudra is Trimakuta!

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@mods

the thread is so off-topic - Rajni and CM - pl close.

Rsachi
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@Mods
Yes please!
Purpose served well, already. Everything has a limit :D

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