PAHI NAREYANA- ANANDABHAIRAVI

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CRama
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PAHI NAREYANA- ANANDABHAIRAVI

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Hearing Neyveli Santhanagopalan’s concert in Nada Neeranjanam. Just now he sang a song - Pahi Nareyana Lakshmi Nareyana …….Amara Nareyana- a composition of Kaivara……. I could not get it fully. Since it is sung as Nareyana instead of Narayana it is intriguing.

Earlier also I had heard this song. I will like to hear about the composer and why it is sung as Nareyana. Knowledgeable rasikas may kindly enlighten.

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pAhi nArEyaNa pAhi. rAgA: Anandabhairavi. Adi tALA. Yogi Narayana Yatindra..

P: pAhi nArEyaNa pAhi nArEyaNa pAhi lakSmI ramaNa amara nArEyaNa
C1: Ishvarana madilunci nI kIrtanalu jEtu dasharatha tanaya jagadIsha nArEyaNa
2: pAluDanu nEnu nI dAsuDanu rakSinci abhayamIyavayya nAku Adi nArEyaNa
3: akhilAnDamulu nIdu kukSilO naNacukoni krpa jUDa kunda dikkevaru nArEyaNa

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A couple of corrections::

pAhi nArEyaNa pAhi. rAgA: Anandabhairavi. Adi

tALA. Yogi Narayana Yatindra..

P: pAhi nArEyaNa pAhi nArEyaNa pAhi lakSmI

ramaNa amara nArEyaNa
C1: *Ishvaruni* *madinunci* nI kIrtanalu jEtu

dasharatha tanaya jagadIsha nArEyaNa
2:*bAluDanu* nEnu nI dAsuDanu rakSinci

abhayamIyavayya nAku Adi nArEyaNa
3: akhilAnDamulu nIdu kukSilO naNacukoni krpa

jUDa kunda dikkevaru nArEyaNa

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Sti Nedunuri mentioned in a function that he had tuned all Kaivara Narayana kritis at the request of philanthropist MS Jayaram. Kaivara is about 50 km from Bangalore towards Madanapalli.

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What does narEyaNa or nArEyaNa mean?

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I feel that the words are corrupt forms of the word, nArAyaNa

These two words do not have a meaning.

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Savitri: Thanks for the corrections.

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Thanks a lot Lakshmanji,Savitri and RSachi for the clarifications.

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Post by Sivaramakrishnan »

Any other examples of 'corrupt' forms of words in vogue?

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Post by keerthi »

I don't mean this post as an attack specifically on Savitriji, but as a response to the general attitude it represents.

I feel that the words are corrupt forms of the word, nArAyaNa

These two words do not have a meaning.
I strongly recommend we think twice before we say such things as 'corrupt' or 'without meaning'.

True, as part of a certain scholarly attitudes, we are used to seeing things in terms of a single-centred 'original' and a later mutant that is seen as a subversion or a corrupt form. And we believe that in the 'original' language there is perfectly valid, grammatically sound explanation for the term.

That isn't true. There are variant forms for every term, as it moves from language to language; and even within the same language. Nor is there a convincing, grammatical sound explanation/ interpretation for every word within the language. Why can't we see the variants as variants - regional or dialect-based, rather than as mutants or corruptions or anomalies; and receive them as referring to the same meaning.

nareyaNa and nArEyaNa refer to (and mean) the same thing that nArAyaNa does (or doesn't).

The prAkRts and apabhramsha-s are not corruptions of SanskRt. Just as Kalidasa's SanskRt isn't a corruption of Valmiki's and AswaghoSa's SanskRt.

None of / ta'mei:to /, or /tama:to/ or /takkA:Li/ are corruptions of one another are they; and none of them is meaningless.

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Keerthi,
Your note of caution is very timely and I shall bear it in mind in future.
Thank you
Sachi R

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Does not 'Narayana' have a meaning in Samskritham? In Tamizh we call the changed forms 'maruvi vazhangulirathu'. That does not connote a pejorative as it seems to sound when described as 'corrupt'. But, corrupt itself might have got the pejorative sense thanks to what we witness in India. The beauty is the singer sang as the poet wrote and the idea of playing it down as inferiror was perhaps not in anyone's mind.

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Thank you keerti ji for the timely caution.

I stand corrected.

Regards

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