Darwin and Music

Miscellaneous topics on Carnatic music
Nick H
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Re: Darwin and Music

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I'm sure that applies very much in software industry: "If I had more time, this program would be half the length."

VK RAMAN
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Shorter, Longer, time space fits well with kritis too.

ganesh_mourthy
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Post by ganesh_mourthy »

VK, Ca me rend hereux que vous avez ecrit en Francaise!

arasi
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Re: Darwin and Music

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Vraiment?? :)

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Ah bon Arasi! et Vous aussi?

arasi
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'You too?' you ask--just an amused observer je suis, no more :)

kvchellappa
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I wonder whether more people know in this forum French than Tamizh.

arasi
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'Know' is an all-embracing word. There are a few like me who really don't know anything much but a smattering of it, that's all :)

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French language used by a few veterans who had in the past spent a few years of their youth in that Country IMO. Of course, one can use google translate from english to french.

vasanthakokilam
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>Of course, one can use google translate from English to french.
yes.

G_m, Google nous permet de prétendre que nous savons plus de langues que nous faisons vraiment

arasi
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And recently when I said 'google it, I do', Nick was amused, was he not?

Looking at your recent post, I'm more impressed of course!

Ah, then there's a catch. Translate Google can, type you can, but to read it? Well, learning each word by listening to it and then trying to speak in sentences? That's hard :lol:

kvchellappa
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Googly? My problem is to understand what is exchanged in French, not to get English into French!

Ponbhairavi
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ganesh_mourthy
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Pakshe, Google translatele koraya kozhappam undu. Aaa googlo beeglo okka athra vrithiyaai translate seiyaan paadilla. edakke edakke koraya thettu kaanaan kazhiyum.

I think nowadays it is not only translation but you can also transliterate and get closer. Funnily though, sometimes you get something completely different also. I think we have quite a number of tamils in this Rasikas who lean often to Tamil songs, some Telugu and Kannadiga too. Are there enough Keralites. Just out of curiousity.

Lapel Pin. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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malayalam koracchu manasile aayi; french suddha mosamakkum.
gnaan tamizhaakaam.

kvchellappa
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I read this in a book: "Thus, if a million players sit down to bet at an even game, since one after another will get ruined, the average wealth of those who remain will perpetually increase. Here is indubitably a genuine formula of possible evolution, whether its operation accounts for much or little in the development of animal and vegetable species."
If evolution works in music and if a number of people are ruined, will the remaining be maestros and wealthy?

ganesh_mourthy
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if number of people are ruined relatively the need for maetraos would decrease too and the proportion remains the same. However, if the number of maestros diminish and left with handful maestros, then those maestros will get riches but would stop to evolve as there is no predator until one from the common rise to threaten the position of the rare maestros.

This thread seem more of Kudikaaran pechu , because it makes no sense when whoever started the thread did not putforth enough substance and now lost in the thin air.

arasi
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No big deal...
As Nick said, idle talk appeals to us (more so to relax after jungle warfare and such).

Many threads are destined to dye, I mean die, no big deal, a natural process...Personally these are better than the threads which choke themselves and cease because of complexity of a kind which escape simple minds like me--and you bet, they are long posts.

Oh, curious about what the prof had to say, and then deleted. PBala and Ravi have not chimed in. CML would have enriched the thread with poetry, prose and humor.

I'm glad you brought in korachokka malayALam. Yes, too tamizh-centric we have always been (majority among us, certainly). So is CM, I'm afraid, stronghold being Chennai.

However, the big mouths are the tamizh speakers. Want me to substantiate it? Go to to the Literature forum and look under every language :)

MaheshS
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arasi wrote:No big deal...
However, the big mouths are the tamizh speakers. Want me to substantiate it? Go to to the Literature forum and look under every language :)
Ohh that is beacuse there is a lot more literature to speak about in Tamil which no other language can boast, other than Sanskrist of course, with the time span of over a couple of thousand years [conservative / Western estimate] :)

arasi
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Re: Darwin and Music

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"On Sindhu river, in moonlight, with lovely damsels of KEraLA,
Singing songs in beautiful telugu, we row our boats and delight'', sang BhArathi.

KastUri kannaDa, and all other languages, ancient and rich in their poetry and prose were on his mind too...:)

Ranganayaki
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More/ Less: There is enough literature in all languages to keep us talking for centuries.. so the argument is wrong.

MaheshS
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Re: Darwin and Music

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Madams, I do beg your pardon. I am not disputing the literature in other languages ... The point I was trying to make was that there is so much in Tamil alone that *IS* making us talking for centuries, and that was in a direct comment about the langueages thread reference by Arasi. And only Sanskrit could rival that.

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arasi wrote:"On Sindhu river, in moonlight, with lovely damsels of KEraLA,
Singing songs in beautiful telugu, we row our boats and delight'', sang BhArathi.
sang BhArathi in? Tamil :lol: :lol: :lol:

arasi
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aunu, haudu, tanne, AmAm...

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Re: Darwin and Music

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Shouldn't we get back to the topic of "lapel pin" or "batch" etc. and do something before the December 2015 season ? We have been procrastinating year after year. Please move this to a separate heading, if needed.

varsha
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BhArathi in? Tamil
Who said Bharathi did not sing in Kannada ?
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/zdhui8l ... adasar.mp3
:cry: :)

Oh ! Lord .
Born I am out of myself ,
Any iota of independence I may have ,
Pleaaaase Point that out to me ...

ganesh_mourthy
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Re: Darwin and Music

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Ha good. I know Bharathi's grandson also loved to sing Purandaradasar Krithis.

Nick H
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Re: Darwin and Music

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Sundara Rajan wrote:Shouldn't we get back to the topic of "lapel pin" or "batch" etc. and do something before the December 2015 season ? We have been procrastinating year after year. Please move this to a separate heading, if needed.
I think we should get back to the topic of Darwin. Nobody has even suggested what kind of music he listened to or liked, even though the topic heading is "Darwin and Music." Did he enjoy the music of the sailors? Did he put wax in his ears whenever they played their working music?

Come on, people: Darwin and Music!

Pins and badges need another thread (Pins and Badges Yet Again --- maybe?) or the digging up of an old appropriate one. Really, the experience of years should have taught us that they are not going to happen. Some Rasikas.org-ians like to be completely incognito, others like to meet in twos and threes, but mass rasikas.org social interaction has been on the wane for a while now. Without Nageshwaren in Chennai, if the global meet happens at all this year, it will probably happen in Bangalore.

MaheshS
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Re: Darwin and Music

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varsha wrote:
BhArathi in? Tamil
Who said Bharathi did not sing in Kannada ?
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/zdhui8l ... adasar.mp3
:cry: :)

Oh ! Lord .
Born I am out of myself ,
Any iota of independence I may have ,
Pleaaaase Point that out to me ...
I bow to you Sir. Who is the artist? A very very nice Vagadheeswari.

varsha
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Re: Darwin and Music

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Bharathi . Rajkumar Bharathi singing in Hubli :D

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