Candour Personified - Hindu Article on Sanjay

[Rasikapriya2013]

I do not know whether it is appropriate to share this article in a Kutchery Review and recordings column.
But as a sangeetha rasika, I could not help but share this article which explains beautifully Why Sri Sanjay is so apt for Sangeetha Kalanidhi !

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday ... ertainment

[Nick H]

It is probably the wrong sub-forum, but thanks: it was an excellent article

[Rasikapriya2013]

Maybe in a General discussion column then, thanks

[Rsachi]

Time-honoured wisdom: nothing succeeds like success.

My addition: success finds a new tongue.

The acreage of Sanjay stories since June/July in the Hindu far exceeds TMK's! Isn't that significant?

[kvchellappa]

TMK has a column to write his own stories once in a fortnight!
(This has already been posted under 'Sanjay interview in Tamizh) under General Discussions, and commented upon too).

[arasi]

Rasikapriya2013,
Yes,we have.

We do know that however well written/interviewed a piece--by the writer emphasizing certain utterings, the more essential points recede to the outskirts (in this case, the very title does that!). Your title to the thread seems more appropriate in my view

My guess is that Sanjay's sense of humor prompted him to say that he's a hedonist (a little mischievously).That's all.

Sachi,
Two reasons for the acreage.
1: We thamizhargaL are known for pEchu ( a few of us, even more so)! Some of you being part time thamizharaL is not forgotten
2: After all, the man is in the limelight. So, more coverage by the press.

[rshankar]

Rasikapriya2013,1: We thamizhargaL are known for pEchu ( a few of us, even more so)! Some of you being part time thamizharaL is not forgotten

Or as the mahAkavi said - vAi sollil vIraraDI....

[rajeshnat]

Time-honoured wisdom: nothing succeeds like success.

My addition: success finds a new tongue.

The acreage of Sanjay stories since June/July in the Hindu far exceeds TMK's! Isn't that significant?

good point sachi

Time Honored wisdom : Make hay while the sun shines.

Of late sanjay and media interviews are kind of becoming like the pepsi ads that frequently occur between overs in a televised cricket match .

[Rasikapriya2013]

What is success ?

Having rasikas throng for his concerts and delivering a concert for three hours straight with no talk but Music is Sanjay's Jayam !

[harimau]

What is success ?

Having rasikas throng for his concerts and delivering a concert for three hours straight with no talk but Music is Sanjay's Jayam !

"Having Rasikas throng for his concert" is not what seems to be the case nowadays. Read:

http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26290

The secretary of a Sabha bemoaned the fact people are not showing up for concerts and pinned his hope on the NRI crowd to get his Sabha a much needed boost in finances.

No, the locals won't pay one single rupee to listen to any of today's top drawer musicians.

We don't need to. We can hear them for free the rest of the year. And we have decided how much their music is worth by not attending ticketed concerts.

Harsh? Yes, but the truth mostly is.

PS. TMK seems to have come to this realisation several years ago and thus started insisting that his concerts during the December Season should be free!

[Rasikapriya2013]

Never mentioned about paid or unpaid concert.
We all prefer free concerts !
But very few musicians succeed in attracting rasikas and keeping them engrossed until Mangalam

[kvchellappa]

TMK perhaps charges successfully the highest a CM artist is paid. AR may not be behind. It is in this context that SSI/SS statement about musicians depending on the audience for income is relevant. That we get many concerts free does not mean that the artists render it free also. The organisers have to raise the revenue and they often have a tough time. It is for fact even now that SS draws more people than several other artists. Setting aside Mauism 'There are any number of reasons why people go to a concert, but listening to music is not one of them' or 'People going to concerts of popular artists are musically handicapped', it shows that SS fires the imagination of a good number. I am sure he will stop singing the day he feels he is not creative.

[arasi]

You said: I am sure he will stop singing the day he feels he's not creative (enough?)

Yes, what he had also said in his 2006 kAlachuvaDu interview...

[harimau]

......... Setting aside Mauism 'There are any number of reasons why people go to a concert, but listening to music is not one of them' or 'People going to concerts of popular artists are musically handicapped', it shows that SS fires the imagination of a good number. I am sure he will stop singing the day he feels he is not creative.

You are wrong.

He will stop singing when more sabhas refuse to meet his demands -- as at least one Sabha in Kerala has done.

Then he will have no venues to sing in!

Then he will be singing in the puja room in his home!

Except that, as an atheist, he should be having no puja room in his home!

[kvchellappa]

A sincere atheist is a thousand times more valuable than a bigoted believer. A doer is any day a man to shadow rather than a sterile critic. I am sure of my grounds to say what i said.

[sureshvv]

Except that, as an atheist, <blather deletd>

Please read vgovindan's recent post on theism elsewhere on this site.

[Rasikapriya2013]

While liking one's music is a matter of personal preference, opinions other than constructive criticism on music should be kept to oneself !

Saint Agasthiyar has summarized this beautifully

"Anbaaga pesu, Inimayaaga pesu, Unmaiye pesu, Nanmaiye pesu, Meduvaga pesu, Sindhittu pesu, Samayam arindu pesu, Sabhai arindu pesu, Pesaadu irunthum pazhagu."

[arasi]

All good counsel from the sage. Something which will help us all lead a better life, however hard it can be.
nanmaiyE pEsu (speak only about good things), sabai aRindu pEsu (speak, knowing where you are, whom you are with) are two things here to go by on Raiskas.org. Not easy, but appropriate.
The last one is quite impossible for most of us.pEsAdu irundum pazhagu (also learn to keep your mouth shut..)

Seriously, what it means here at RasikAs is that we can discuss openly all musical matters, agree upon them or disagree. Personal attacks triggered by our personal feelings is not so good. We can comment on the behavior of an artiste if it is rude or unprofessional on stage, of course. Personal attacks outside the milieu of the concert stage is not our business.

Why should we frown up on an honest statement when it is realistic? Empty words which reflect professional musicians' allegiance only to their art have no credence in the 21st century. We have known artistes who raised hell over poor remuneration, even walking out of concerts in earlier times. Anyway, our concern is that a concert is substantial, worked at and is presented with the audience at heart.

If we indulge in belittling them, Rasikas.org is not the place for it. Lakshmikanthan and yellow journalism is what comes to mind

[ramamantra]

Except that, as an atheist, he should be having no puja room in his home!

So, does it mean he is an atheist? Wow! never knew that. And, if it is so, it is quite strange.

[vasanthakokilam]

"Anbaaga pesu, Inimayaaga pesu, Unmaiye pesu, Nanmaiye pesu, Meduvaga pesu, Sindhittu pesu, Samayam arindu pesu, Sabhai arindu pesu, Pesaadu irunthum pazhagu."

At work my colleagues give me a hard time that I talk a lot. There is so much for me to think about in the above quote. One humorous addition to the above list is 'gap vittu pEsu', so someone else can jump in and offer their 2 cents.

back to the topic, what Arasi says is quite true. Harimau, At one end you come across as someone who has high standards for music and talk low/trash artists who do not meet them. People can learn to respect that even if they disagree with you. But on the other end, you lose your credibility if you use such a thing as a camouflage to trash artists willy-nilly for whatever reason as you have been doing with Sanjay. If you think people are not catching on to that, you will be totally mid-judging the situation. Just FYI.

I am writing the above after giving consideration to 'uNmayE pesu,Sindhittu pesu, Samyam arindu pesu, Sabhai arindu pesu'. It is definitely not 'Anbaaga pesu, Inimayaaga pesu' but it is intended to satisfy 'Nanmaiye pesu'. Now let me stop so I follow my addition 'gap vittu pEsu'

[arasi]

I did it only once I think, when I had the hiccups

[rshankar]

Harimau, At one end you come across as someone who has high standards for music and talk low/trash artists who do not meet them. People can learn to respect that even if they disagree with you. But on the other end, you lose your credibility if you use such a thing as a camouflage to trash artists willy-nilly for whatever reason as you have been doing with Sanjay.

Rasikapriya - Harimau has confessed to having a team of people (or just personalities) that are part of 'Team Harimau' who seem to use the ID. As Sridhar has said elsewhere, there are at least 3 of them, called vyAghra-trayam (post 43). I personally believe that 3 is too small a number and I call it the vyAghra-kUTa...
Srinath has already expanded on the various species involved (post 60).....

PS: I am sure that much of what he posts is for the shock value, and that he has a collection of what he'd consider choice responses. He has confessed to going to concerts for 'sociological' research, so why not post on rasikas with the same intent?

[arasi]

It's festive time, mangaLa dIpAvaLi. Pasupathy has not only brought to us Papanasam Sivan's two dIpavaLi songs in the Literature section but has also brought Sanjay's singing one in an AIR concert. niraval in mangaLa dIpAvaLi, rAgam madhyamAvathi. You can find them there, the lyrics of both, and this one with notations too, in tamizh!

Thanjavooran,
You had already requested mangaLam at dIpAvaLi, and I echo your sentiments...

[Rasikapriya2013]

Harimau, At one end you come across as someone who has high standards for music and talk low/trash artists who do not meet them. People can learn to respect that even if they disagree with you. But on the other end, you lose your credibility if you use such a thing as a camouflage to trash artists willy-nilly for whatever reason as you have been doing with Sanjay.

I did not quote that though Vasanthakokilam has beautifully internalised the intent!
Gap vittu pesu equally applies equally to Gap vittu paadu too.
Happy Diwali to you all

[thanjavooran]

அரசி அவர்களே எதற்கும் ஒருமுறை மங்களம் மாமியை கேட்டுவிடலாமே
தீபாவளி வாழ்த்துக்கள்.
தஞ்சாவூரான்
09 11 2015

[arasi]

Yes! We do miss her presence...
What a character Venkatakailasam created!

[kedharam]

Happy Deepavali!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xajE2WJqJ4g

and

Happy Dipali:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcP_Xn4 ... 7c&index=2

[kvchellappa]

I was perusing the names of Sanjay fans in FB and came across several notable musicians incl. some senior ones.