I request our esteemed fellow rasikas.. CRama, Thanjvooran, Rajeshnat, VSuresh and others to attend this concert so I can look forward to a review
'Ramanavami' thematic concert at The Madras Music Academy on 5th April at 6 pm.
Date : April 5
Day: Wednesday
Time : 6pm
Venue , The Madras Music Academy ,Kasturi Srinivasan Hall(Mini Hall) , TTK Road , Chennai.
ARTISTE: Amrutha Venkatesh - vocal
Co-artistes : Idappally Sri Ajith Kumar - Violin
Sri B.Vijay Natesan - Mridangam
Theme : Ramanavami
Kharaharapriya alapana , what sowkyam in her singing ! Followed by chakkani raja , niraval at chakkani raja , swaram , follwed by sriramachandra kripa in yamuna kalyani , virutam - vame bhumi sutha " and a tamil verse in ragas sindubhairavi , desh , and kurinji ? mangalam
folks.. i am sorry. The kharaharapriya alapana transported me to the other dimension & I could not continue. A very extensive 15 minute plus alapana followed by chakkaniraja was the main piece. There were several glides & jumps spanning octaves during the alapana & the violinist could barely keep up.
Post main the songs were
1. sri ramachandra krupala, yamunakalyani, tulsi
2. paluke bangaramaina, ananda bhairavi,
3. ragamalika slokam depicting pattabhishekam in sindhubhairavi, desh, lightning switch to madhyama sruthi, tamil viruttam (kamba ramayanam?) in nadanamakriya, kurinji
4. mangalam, ramachandraya janaka
What stood out today is her amazing fidelity to the words behind the music and their meaning (sanskrit, tamil, telugu) - bordering on scholarly recitation set to music. Even bhavayami sounded rare in that I was able to folliow the story all the way through. She is so careful where she breaks the words & sings complete phrases with meaning in tact - it is a treat to listen to.
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Yes kharaharapriya alapana was amazing . She is one artiste who can give a vivid and aesthetic portrait of ragas.
Has anybody recorded , especialy kharaharapriya alapana ,?
There were also two extra long swara prasthara sessions and the 2nd in khanda chapu was a rocking affair. Vijay Natesan did a commendable job on the mrdangam.
Strangely, I am not upset I missedthis wonderful concert, reason maybe you folks have done such a great job of sharing your joy...
I see wonderful planning and you say fabulous execution. What more can one ask? God bless.
The ragamalika slokam rendition was a brilliant thriller loaded with suspense & plot diversions all the way to the end. Started with an extended Sindhubhairavi with a lot of MDR esque vocalization, I was almost sure it was going to be followed by the MDR kriti that Sanjay pulled out of the bag a few years ago at the BSU (... manamey.. dinamey). But she panned to Shatrugna & Bharatha & moved over to Desh and suggested it was going to be Rama namamey thuthi manamey. Before I could blink she switched to Madhyama sruti & to chaste literary Tamizh & Nadanamakriya. Before I could zone in, it segued into the bhadrachala ramdas mangalam in kurinji.
Aesthetics is Amrutha, in all departments!
Thanks Sachi for initiating the thread, and for Sureshvv and others for being sharers of the joy her concert brought.
Now, I'm getting curious-er. What WAS the tamizh verse?
Lovely song list . When there is way too much rare items the pulse of audience is lost , the suraranjani, pantuvarali and nattai where as she goes to the KHP with the most popular cakkani raja . Nice balance for everyone in the audience.
It is nice even to read about artists like MS, Kishori Amonkar, and now Amritha (maybe a premature bracketing, but she must live up to it). It is a treat to see her sing rather than just hear. There is that sowkyam not in just the singing, but her facial expression and the body language. It seems all effortless and she becomes her music, something one experienced with MS, and the audience also merge in it. Thanks to all.
Some artists bring dignity to the titles. They do not run after titles. Sarcasm shows the value attached to a title rather than to the art. Negative things must be said, but it cannot be opinions. There must be substance in what is said.
melam72 wrote: β06 Apr 2017, 08:07
Hopefully she doesn't join the ranks of the MD Ramanathans ansd Vairamangalam Lakshminarayanans of the world who got it never...
It is like Dikshitar's breaking of the "prasa" rules to mainly remind us all that we are just fallible human beings in an imperfect world.
sureshvv wrote: β06 Apr 2017, 09:09
It is like Dikshitar's breaking of the "prasa" rules to mainly remind us all that we are just fallible human beings in an imperfect world.
She is too well-connected imo. She is a disciple of Rama Varma, who is very close to the Car Driver. Given the Car Driver's influence on sabhas because droves of bovines come to see him perform, she has a SK assured. When, however, is the million dollar question.
melam72, I do not understand your "car driver" references. I cannot make out if they are negative or positive, and have no idea how to read the posts in which you have used this analogy, if that is what it is. I am not the only one who is puzzled.
Nick, I hope this will help Melam72 to clarify the matter amicably: I figured he refers to an artiste who bears the name of a charioteer in Mahabharata called Sanjaya who narrated by "tele-vision"(by divine dispensation) the entire proceedings from the battlefield several miles away, including the Bhagavadgita, to his master, the blind king Dhritarashtra.
Such an appellation to a Sangeetha Kalanidhi is downright derogatory, of course.
Couldn't go over to Music Academy.
Seems to be a great concert.
I haven't heard about the MDR composition (Pantuvarali).
Amrita Venkatesh has a deep insight into the art and that shows up in her recitals.
sureshvv wrote: β05 Apr 2017, 22:00
What stood out today is her amazing fidelity to the words behind the music and their meaning (sanskrit, tamil, telugu) - bordering on scholarly recitation set to music. Even bhavayami sounded rare in that I was able to follow the story all the way through. She is so careful where she breaks the words & sings complete phrases with meaning in tact - it is a treat to listen to.
The tone of the music ( may be the modern audio system) has tended to be metallic - as audio fidelity increased - and you will get more pronunciation clarity from Women generally. Lets give Women the credit there - receptionists are mostly Women who pickup the first call for that reason . The school that achieved good diction among males ( DKJ , Vijay Siva) sings at a higher Sruti.
Having Dr BMK in her lineage - certainly not surprising that she has put more emphasis on that one.
"bordering on scholarly recitation set to music" - hmm that doesn't read well - I think she has integrated it well and her emotional appeal is at a level that is appropriate for her current stature as an young artiste .. fitting the stereo type that we want emotional outburst to increase with age
Sachi_R wrote: β06 Apr 2017, 14:27
Nick, I hope this will help Melam72 to clarify the matter amicably: I figured he refers to an artiste who bears the name of a charioteer in Mahabharata called Sanjaya who narrated by "tele-vision"(by divine dispensation) the entire proceedings from the battlefield several miles away, including the Bhagavadgita, to his master, the blind king Dhritarashtra.
Thank you! I had something more ola, uber or, at best, old family retainer driving the Amby in mind. And I had utterly forgotten that part of Mahabharat. Now you come to mention it, I can find a mere glimmer of an almost extinguished brain cell. Anyway, I'm immodestly pleased that I at least know what you are talking about!
shankarank wrote: β06 Apr 2017, 19:52Having Dr BMK in her lineage - certainly not surprising that she has put more emphasis on that one.
She is assuredly her own woman. I'm amazed and impressed that she can sing a BMK thillana without sounding like BMK!
Sad that I missed this concert, but I really really dislike that hall.
Nick H wrote: β06 Apr 2017, 20:39
Sad that I missed this concert, but I really really dislike that hall.
I think I''ve finally met my soulmate (if your wife doesn't mind, that is )
But seriously.
The lack of natural acoustics in the hall, the fact that the musician sings in front of you but you hear the sounds from above you, the fire-code violations especially in concerts of The Car Driver (yes, that is Sanjaya Subhramanyam), all makes me prefer literally any other hall.
But my favourites are Narada Gana Sabha and Parthasarathy, even though the latter lacks an AC.
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I respectfully beg that you move all "interesting posts" not germane to a topic or out of context, e. g. In this topic a reference to Melam's girth, his aversion to halls and drivers, his ability to laugh at his own jokes, and my frequent nonsense, to a new and permanent and prominent thread that will swell and soar and smell and bore eternally:
Terminal Trolls & Galatta Galore
This will be like a landfill saving our nAgarIka threads (nAgarIka literally means "civic and civil, responsible"
And will give free play to all our pent up literary and emotional outbursts
The tone of the music ( may be the modern audio system) has tended to be metallic - as audio fidelity increased - and you will get more pronunciation clarity from Women generally. Lets give Women the credit there - receptionists are mostly Women who pickup the first call for that reason . The school that achieved good diction among males ( DKJ , Vijay Siva) sings at a higher Sruti.
Having Dr BMK in her lineage - certainly not surprising that she has put more emphasis on that one.
Think you are connecting mottai thalai & muzhankaal. Pronunciation and pitch are orthogonal.
"bordering on scholarly recitation set to music" - hmm that doesn't read well
Touche!
I think she has integrated it well and her emotional appeal is at a level that is appropriate for her current stature as an young artiste .. fitting the stereo type that we want emotional outburst to increase with age
Usually it is the rasikas age
Unfortunately a significant portion of the Carnatic cognoscenti treat lyrics as just a convenient peg to hang sangathis on. This echo chamber has pretty successfully undermined the role of words in the music (not counting the Rama and Krishna evocations). I am happy to see that a few artistes are working extra hard to reinforce the importance of words and their significance while delivering the music.
Nick H wrote: β06 Apr 2017, 20:39
Sad that I missed this concert, but I really really dislike that hall.
I think I''ve finally met my soulmate (if your wife doesn't mind, that is )
Whoa! Lets not go too fast too soon! As a lady on the matrimonials circuit once said to me: "How can someone say they want to spend the rest of their life with me when they haven't even met me?!"
And anyway... donkey + pony = mule!
But seriously.
The lack of natural acoustics in the hall, the fact that the musician sings in front of you but you hear the sounds from above you, the fire-code violations especially in concerts of The Car Driver (yes, that is Sanjaya Subhramanyam), all makes me prefer literally any other hall.
Never heard the natural acoustics: not possible, as the speakers are always far too loud. And even if they weren't, I can't enjoy the music because the badly designed lighting has given me a headache before the concert even begins.
Seriously, Music Academy: take all that cash you get from hosting commercial events, strip that hall out and start again.
So I can come and enjoy Amrutha when she sings there.
ANd, so far as fire hazard/safety is concerned, many of our halls should be closed down. Especially when extra seating and ticket-price barriers remove all sense of public responsibility from the organisers' miinds.
Nick H wrote: β07 Apr 2017, 13:21
ANd, so far as fire hazard/safety is concerned, many of our halls should be closed down. Especially when extra seating and ticket-price barriers remove all sense of public responsibility from the organisers' miinds.
Not Narada Gana Sabha Main.
The people there uphold the highest standards of safety. AFAIK, they don't overload the hall with chairs et. cie. They do overload the stage, but if you're capable of sitting on the floor, you are equally capable of running away too.
Nick H wrote: β07 Apr 2017, 13:21
Whoa! Lets not go too fast too soon! As a lady on the matrimonials circuit once said to me: "How can someone say they want to spend the rest of their life with me when they haven't even met me?!"
sureshvv wrote: β07 Apr 2017, 11:58
Unfortunately a significant portion of the Carnatic cognoscenti treat lyrics as just a convenient peg to hang sangathis on. This echo chamber has pretty successfully undermined the role of words in the music (not counting the Rama and Krishna evocations). I am happy to see that a few artistes are working extra hard to reinforce the importance of words and their significance while delivering the music.
So lets credit the echo chambers to have provided a nAdam filled experience even if there is no nADam in the singer's voice! Reinforcing the fact subtly that nAdam itself is a divine experience. Explains why all artistes want higher volumes!
But nobody has had the courage to just do lyric-less concerts and people are avoiding instrumentalists! So rasikas seem to value the lyrics - even if they cannot hear it clearly - but not so much the sAhitya ( where syllables as stresses make philosophical/musical sense as well!) !
We need a balance between the two (nAdam and words) and we don't want a recitation music!
shankarank wrote: β07 Apr 2017, 21:42
We need a balance between the two (nAdam and words) and we don't want a recitation music!
Right. I do not think the prevalent practice is go so far out on lyrics that melody is given a lower status, so we do not need to fear that. It is typically the opposite. An artist like Amrutha has the musical acumen and taste to keep the balance right.
I am still fond of listening to her Bhavayami Raghuramam available on Youtube. In addition to the bright pronunciation of lyrics her nonchalant improvised raga florishes at the vowel extensions of each segment is really awesome. That particular performance evokes memories of MDR bANi of singing. I would love to hear her sing that great composition live.
vasanthakokilam wrote: β07 Apr 2017, 21:23
Nick, this concert seems to have been held at the MA mini hall. Is your problem with the mini hall or the main hall itself?
Yes, the Mini Hall. It is the biggest reason why I did not go to this concert.
The MA main hall, I quite like, as long as I can sit fairly close to the stage/