need meaning for turukaru karedare by purandaradasar

[ajaysimha]

hello rasikas,

turukkaru karedare_kAmbhOji_jhampe_Purandara Daasar

P:turukaru karedare uNabahudaNNa turukaru karedare puNyavayya

C1:turukarinda muTTu maDi biTTu hOgOdu turukarinda enjalu hOgOdu
turukara kUdalu turubige suttidhare eNikeyillada muttaideyaraNNa

C2 :turukarinda svarga sAdhanavAgOdu turukarinda naraka dUravayya
turukaru bandare sarakkane ElabEku turukaru pUjise hari oliva

C3:turukara nIra era koNDu namma dEva erakoNDa nIrella sanakAdhigaLige
beraga mADida haridAsarigella eravu mADida namma purandara viTTala

link:
https://youtu.be/F6oXsiXmOdY?list=PLe2C ... n1Lg&t=430
retuned in kharaharapriya_adi

i could find a few explanations for this song over the net like:

"Purandaradasa had a great sense of humor, pun, wordplay, etc. An example: Turukaru karedare uNabahudaNNa.. Here turukaru can stand for Turks or muslims or it can also stand for turu and karu meaning cattle while karedare has two distinct meanings – invite or yield milk."

also in the book:
(link of page referring to the meaning) https://archive.org/details/Purandarada ... /page/n107

what is the significance of using the word turukaru for cows which at the outset refers to Turks.

is the composer trying to give any message of social integration(samjavadi tattwa).
or trying to convey any philosophical idea(veda/vedantha vichara).

[Lakshman]

Please find the meaning here:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=-r7AxJ ... ng&f=false

[Sachi_R]

I won't go into the details but if at all Purandara Dasa did sing this song, it has to mean something very different from respecting and accepting the hospitality of Muslims. The Muslims whom he would have seen pulled down the Vijayanagara empire and committed many atrocities.

[ajaysimha]

Thanks lakshman ji.

The meaning in the book looks like the literal translation.
And does not give any meaning for the pun in the composition.

I'm still unable to connect the dots.
Is there any hidden meaning (guda artha) that composer wants to convey ?

Also want to know which is right pronunciation in Kannada
Turu Karu ==> cow and calf
Or
Taru Karu ==> cow and calf

[Sachi_R]

Turu=cow.
Kittel:

[ajaysimha]

Thanks Sachi sir.

As I analyzed through the composition,

When one hears/reads the composition for the first time it may sound as turukaru (Turks)at the outset

But when we understand the depth, it goes as turu and Karu (cow and calf)

Hats off to dasa's language usage !!!

[ajaysimha]

Also need to know meaning for these 3 lines,
While other lines in the composition are clear.

Turukara kUdalu turubige suttidhare eNikeyillada
muttaideyaraNNa

Turukara nIra era koNDu namma dEva erakoNDa nIrella sanakAdhigaLige

beraga mADida haridAsarigella eravu mADida namma purandara viTTala

[aaaaabbbbb]

A correction.
In the third charanam it is * berake*
.in the second charanam, it is *suttidare*

[aaaaabbbbb]

turukara kUdalu turubige suttidare eNikeyillada

muttaideyaraNNa

turukara nIra era koNDu namma dEva erakoNDa nIrella sanakAdigaLige

berake mADida haridAsarigella iravu mADida namma purandara viTTala


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when rolled around the bun,the hair of the cow grants eternal sumangali status.

our God,poured the milk of the cow on himself,Our purandara viTTala mixed and granted the milk

to sanaka and other sages,

He brought haridAsas to existence,

{corrections welcome}

[ajaysimha]

thanks @aaaaabbbbb for meanings.

just want to know, is this practice still in existence ?
"when rolled around the bun,the hair of the cow grants eternal sumangali status."

trying to interpret the last line, in continuation to previous post.

turukara nIra era koNDu namma dEva erakoNDa nIrella sanakAdigaLige
berake mADida haridAsarigella iravu mADida namma purandara viTTala

our God,poured the milk of the cow on himself,
Our purandara viTTala mixed and granted the milk to sanaka and other sages,
*He brought it(milk) into existence/precence of haridAsas.*