Chitti! Sing me a Todi!- AI and music

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Sachi_R
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Chitti! Sing me a Todi!- AI and music

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enhance the said human creativity.

AI as a collaborator between human mind and machine may be a boon to future music. On the one hand, it will democratise music and on the other, free musicians from mundane music-making, and who would be able to concentrate on higher realms of musical creativity.
And musicians are thinking that the worst was over in 2018!Phew...

ratanabhinav
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Interesting ! Perhaps we could get the perfect Todi from an aesthetic robot .

SrinathK
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This thing is a remarkable creation of human intelligence, it will aid us, but our own abilities are weakening. And a day will come when it'll replace us all. Well, at least it can't eat or sleep for us, at least right now...

shankarank
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Picking up from there:
shankarank wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 08:47 I guess rAgAs (tunes) are getting cloud ready and then AI - ready. It will be like how languages got into dictionaries. :P
RAgAs after cloud, will become things on the internet , before being deploying into Internet of things (IOT).

An AI App based on Alexa/Google home/Echo Dot sensor will be , sensing my mood based on my frets or frowns and play a 30 second tune to calm me down, employing the right rAgA. It can self learn and customize for me, based on feedback or results. Use some facial recognition with a mounted Camera!

Take the pulse from iWatch or Samsung one.

A refrigerator or any other appliance will be fitted with Cameras/Mics. Based on what I am heating in a microwave like a Herbal tea or caffeine one, or from the Fridge - everything is in the game - it can deploy the right rAgA through the home speaker device.

Killer App! Lots of money! Best is yet to come for musicians still.. as they can compete for business with AI produced music.

Carnatic music has a chance to reach every nook and corner of a household! All humans and their social/political issues out the door!

uday_shankar
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There's a utility aspect to some AI pursuits, others less obvious or not at all.

The utility of a language translator is self-evident. An AI raga recognizer has less utility... perhaps a fraction of the total of few thousand comprising all CM listeners in the world may use such an app to one up each other in guessing the raga during alapana. So such an app is already bordering on the useless.

A computer composing/generating Carnatic music... meh.

We can speculate about an analogous situation in sports. If you can add a robotic dimension to all the AI, it is not inconceivable that you can create a perfect robot that can will all the Olympic events, beat all records. How would this enrich human life ?

And surely eventually AI can create the "perfect" painting. Same question...

Long ago, we already had the IBM chess playing computer which can beat grandmasters. Maybe this is a useful sparring tool for aspiring chess players. So there's a utility.

But this AI and "Indian Classical Music" seminar definitely looks quite unattractive :roll:

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Some day, a robot, may design a nuclear bomb and destroy the world. It is good thing to have robots doing the assembly-line work but empowering them too much is the story of Basmaasuran.

Sachi_R
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I can foresee that robots with extremely high intelligence and unbelievably multidimensional immense physical abilities will be engaging in cross border terrorism, senseless bing(e)ing on power lunches and endless games, and outsourcing all their tasks and chores and fixes and stuff to hapless humans toiling in 24x7 call centres all over India.

arasi
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Meanwhile, we now have the capacity to enjoy CM even by using basic modern tools (sometimes, those of our age struggling with it, still reaping its benefits). As RSR says, we hope it wouldn't reach BhasmAsura proportions in the hands young wizards. The power with which they approach it might destroy music and rasikatvA with it :(

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