TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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sais72
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TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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129th Ramanavami celebration concert of Sri Ramabhyudhaya Sangha at Shivarampet, Mysuru, 23.04.19

Vocal: T M Krishna
Violin: Akkarai Subhalakshmi
Mrudangam: K V Prasad
Ghatam: Vazhayapalli Krishna Kumar

Time: 6.50 pm to 10:05pm

• badalika teera, reetigowla raga short sketch, neraval @ sarvabhouma, reetigowla elaborate swaras followed by kambhoji swaras leading to maa janaki, neraval @ raja raja vara, swaras, finishes with reeti gowla neraval line sarva bhouma
• todi swarajathi rave himagiri, raga alapana completely in lower octave, neraval at 3 different places, swaras in lower octave
• broohi mukundethi, kurinji, raga short sketch
• nee mattume en nenjil, kaapi, raga alapana by akkarai
• omkaara kaarini, lavangi, swaras - request from audience
• ninnu sevinchina, yadukula kambhoji, alapana, neraval@sarasa dalaksha, tani
• tayum illai tandai illai (seemed like a Perumal Murugan poem?), ragamalika, vittala salaho swami
• poramboke, one sangati ragamalika of anandabhairavi, begada, hamir kalyani......., - request from audience
• mamo chitte niti nritye, rabindranath tagore song

Wonderful concert! medidative, soothing.

It appears that he does not come prepared for a concert but it does not matter, once he is on the stage his creativity stream sprouts and flows profusely. He is not encumbered by lyrics or sangathis - his stack of books, the accompanists or audience help him out when needed and he continues to delve into the music that is being created and takes everyone in.

shreyas
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by shreyas »

Seems interesting! Were the swaras in Lavangi fast or slow?

sais72
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by sais72 »

shreyas wrote: 25 Apr 2019, 18:25 Seems interesting! Were the swaras in Lavangi fast or slow?
The usual, vilamba swaras followed by a few avarthanams of madhyama kaala swaras if i remember correctly.

bhargavramks
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by bhargavramks »

I gave a chit requesting him to sing either one or more of sAvEri, Yadukula kambhoji or nattakurinji. I felt very glad that Yadukula kambhoji was sung at my request. It was an excellent concert... Only problem I had is that I have hard time reconciling the way the first two pieces , badalika dIra and mA jAnakI were presented....

rshankar
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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bhargavramks wrote: 25 Apr 2019, 23:59badalika dIra
baDalika tIra - as explained here, it is a kRti asking Sri rAma to rest to get over (tIra) the fatigue (baDalika) he must have felt after destroying (tyAgarAja's) innumerable sins....

arunsri
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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While TMK is within his right to present kritis in any order and present compositions of Perumal Murugan or any random person -- he has ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to sing part of a kriti and then go to another one, then come back to that kriti etc. This cannot be categorised as creativity, under any circumstances.
Finish the ritigauLa, sing kAmbhOji, no issues...
It should be for lack of a better word called - madness. Just because people accept your idiosyncrasies and come to your concert for your music, does not mean you keep pushing the envelope further and further to test people's patience.

You are free to do this kind of madness with your own compositions -- please spare the time tested compositions. Remember, you are a popular musician and there are people who look up to you. If you cannot be good role model, do not be a bad one. With power and status, comes responsibility, unfortunately, TMK is unable to handle the responsibility part well.

I still like his music, and will go to his concert, will walk out during the Allah song, come back for the remaining concert.

gardabha_gana
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by gardabha_gana »

It's been a while since I went to a TMK concert, and it will be much longer before I will be able to go to one....

shripathi_g
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by shripathi_g »

TMK has figured out a way to make money from his jam/practice sessions but the music is still very good even if it's disorganized.

kittappa
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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He is not encumbered by lyrics or sangathis - his stack of books, the accompanists or audience help him out when needed and he continues to delve into the music
Fantastic. So, he consults books and accompanists when he forgets the lyrics. This is what is called cheating. Indulging in politics of hate has meant, he has very little time to practise and thinks he can get away by looking stealthily at books. This character should stop singing and indulge in full time politics. Stop cheating the public. I dont care for his music. Earlier, he was shouting in the name of singing. Now this. His music has become more pedestrian after he started indulging in hate politics. His being is full of hate. There is no place for music.

sais72
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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kittappa wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 12:19
He is not encumbered by lyrics or sangathis - his stack of books, the accompanists or audience help him out when needed and he continues to delve into the music
Fantastic. So, he consults books and accompanists when he forgets the lyrics. This is what is called cheating. Indulging in politics of hate has meant, he has very little time to practise and thinks he can get away by looking stealthily at books. This character should stop singing and indulge in full time politics. Stop cheating the public. I dont care for his music. Earlier, he was shouting in the name of singing. Now this. His music has become more pedestrian after he started indulging in hate politics. His being is full of hate. There is no place for music.
This is your opinion and i humbly disagree. There does not seem to be any basis for your inferences and there are many rasikas who feel that his music is getting richer by the day. When you are in a concert or listening to music anywhere try to listen to the music and not what the performer said or did somewhere else. It is hard to do that but try.

BTW, i do not see anything major wrong in his views on music or other matters and we can have that debate elsewhere. This thread is about his concert in Mysuru and for me it was very rich musically.

HarishankarK
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by HarishankarK »

Tampering with Tyagaraja krithis in this manner is to be condemned
I seriously beseech the sabha that sponsored this concert to warn him and not compensate him.
If we don't take severe action then idiosyncrasies will not stop

sarangi123
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by sarangi123 »

I agree, he should be imprisoned. I spent 3 hours of utter bliss in shivrampete and walked to my childhood home few hundred paces from the roadside sabha thanking my stars for having got to experience such beautiful music on a warm summer evening. He is a monster
Why are the people here so joyless?

hnbhagavan
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by hnbhagavan »

Very Easy for you to make such statements and get away.Hope you are a great Knowledgeable Vidwan to evaluate T M Krishna.

arasi
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

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If we deem anything anywhere in this world to be extreme why do have to question it in the extreme too? When what we are looking for is balance, why tip the scales in an extreme way to speak about it? There is room for every expression in this world. If we do not choose to listen to an artiste, we simply don't go to his/her concert. Besides, we don't need to be experts either, to be there. Music should flow through the centuries, and it's just as well that rasikAs of all levels attend a concert, youngsters in particular. It's their exposure to CM that spawns future listeners without whom music cannot flourish...

sarangi123
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by sarangi123 »

Thank you @arasi
I (and many others) had the most beautiful experience that evening and I came here to the forum to learn the name and ragas of some of the compositions that were sung, and here were intolerant people "beseeching sabhas that he be punished"
Terribly sad

arunsri
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Re: TMK @Mysuru, 23.04.19

Post by arunsri »

Well, I am sure TMKs music would have been a sublime experience.... singing one kriti shifting to another and coming back to original, by any definition or standards is NOT creativity.. It is also NOT by mood. One's mood cannot be so fickle.

Pointing out a fundamental flaw in approach does not mean the music is bad.

TMK changed the order of songs - no issues,
TMK decided to sing random compositions - no issues
TMK decided to sing about a prophet in whose religion music is 'haram' - still people did not say much

Why is he behaving like a spoilt child, and testing the tolerance level of the audience?

Is he bigger than the music? NO-- please do not think so. He has an identity because of the music and not viceversa.

If he can survive without giving respect to time tested kritis, let him stop singing Trinity kritis and time tested compositions. Let's see how many people come to the oncerts to listen to the 'music'. Just as the melody has a value, the content also has a value, if only melody is meaningful, we could as well listen to an instrumental concert always

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