Appa Performs At Iit On April 17th

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 21 Apr 2007, 20:30

bharath,
Tx for taking the time to talk with your friends and letting me know.

All,
In first place after the end of the concert when I talked with sri manakkAl sriram , the conversation went something like this.

rajesh: Did your dad sing senchurutti in the slokham ?
sriram: No no , he only sang yamunakalyAni?
rajesh : Can you crosscheck with your dad please?
sriram : he also says it is only yamunakalyAni.
Possibly they totally forgot that senchuruTTi was also sung in the concert.

I digged little deeper today .I took two krithis "shrI cakrarAja simhAsanEshvari" in shenjuruTTi and "krishna nee bEganE baarO" in yamunakalyAni. Take a deep breadht and try just singing the pallavi line or humming.They seem close Dont they??. The conclusion here to me atleast is when familiarity of krithis is there , we map it to the rAgas easily, when it is a slOkham or viruttam ,there is a search that happens which possibly takes you to crossroads of rAgas .That is what CM intrinsically is ?? Did shri manakkal rangarAjan try fully yamunakalyAni or went from senchuruTTi to yamunakalyAni , I dont know, the matter is subjudice.

For the record , manakkAl sriram sent me a personal email of his post(#28) explaining brilliantly the reason. I persuaded him to post his reply to this thread , as I was certainly feeling that private email was a fantastic counter reply by sriram and all of you in the forum should enjoy the same.

I also would like to point out after having few calls with sriram there is absolutely no misunderstanding between us and I am confident that he will take in his stride.

In my opinion there is nothing wrong in going full circle , ofcourse the definition of full circle for each of us varies. The diameter of my full circle is little big , because I listened fully to the concert and the comfort level that both manakkAl's gave. On a personal note, if you think I am wrong thrash me.How will the reviewer know whether he is right or wrong unless he does not go full circle.

cmlover,
don't worry I am very thick skinned. I didnot see anyone that harsh yet . Thank you for your kind encouragement.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 21 Apr 2007, 20:43

Bravo! That is the spirit needed of a budding reviewer!
Fair, Fearless and Frank but never Fussy!

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 26 Apr 2007, 10:25

An article about Parus MS Anantaraman

http://www.chennaionline.com/music/Carn ... usic15.asp

ram · Post by **ram** » 26 Apr 2007, 11:31

Looks like all snaps in the article are mirror images .. or is something wrong with my eyes ... I am usually wide awake at this time of the day.

ram · Post by **ram** » 26 Apr 2007, 11:32

Sorry .. that should read "some snaps" .. not "all snaps"

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 26 Apr 2007, 14:15

ram wrote:Looks like all snaps in the article are mirror images .. or is something wrong with my eyes ... I am usually wide awake at this time of the day.

i m reminded of that Left Handed violinst female some of us saw in the video at the residence of Sri Nageswaran.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 26 Apr 2007, 14:57

I remember reading somewhere that voilin could only be played right handed...when I saw that video I realized that was wrong. But is it more diffiuclt to play if one is a southpaw?

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 26 Apr 2007, 16:54

If played left handed then I presume the order strings will have to be reversed?

coimbatorerasigan · Post by **coimbatorerasigan** » 26 Apr 2007, 20:27

So, are we going to get the recording for this? It sounds so enticing...

mahesh33 · Post by **mahesh33** » 26 Apr 2007, 20:29

Cooolkarni-ji,

Sorry I dint see your post till now. What email can I reach you at?

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Apr 2007, 20:40

[email protected]

manakkalsriram · Post by **manakkalsriram** » 30 Apr 2007, 19:58

rajeshnat wrote:All,
In first place after the end of the concert when I talked with sri manakkAl sriram , the conversation went something like this.

rajesh: Did your dad sing senchurutti in the slokham ?
sriram: No no , he only sang yamunakalyAni?
rajesh : Can you crosscheck with your dad please?
sriram : he also says it is only yamunakalyAni.
Possibly they totally forgot that senchuruTTi was also sung in the concert.

While appreciating rajesh's sharpness and listening power, I would like to confirm that yamuna kalyani was only sung and not senchurutti( Rajesh, Sorry to say that senchurutti could have been forgotten only if it had ever been sung). To explain it, GMGRS prayoga, in the low scale, is the same for Yamuna kalyani and Senchurutti. When it reaches panchamam with pratimadyamam, it deviates from Senchurutti and becomes Yamuna kalyani. This has the approval of Appa.
Appa had elaborated Yamuna Kalyani in the low scale (for it was a meaningful sloka) which probably lead to the assumption that it was Senchurutti. Those who have listened to Appa would know that he has been singing this sloka for decades before the Krishna Nee Begane song (Only Appa sings this sloka).

manakkalsriram · Post by **manakkalsriram** » 30 Apr 2007, 20:46

rajeshnat wrote:3.shivam vrshabhaarUDham(R N S) - mOhana kalyaaNi - HMB (Time was 8:05pm)
The bilahari was quite good. The only disappointment(yAnaikkum adi sarakkum) was mOhanakalyAni alApanai , there was so much of bilaharish phrases in mOhanakalyAni (did you notice that bharath??).

Once again, I am forced to interfere at this point. For Mohana kalyani the arohanam is SRGPDS (mohanam) which is the same for Bilahari also. The Avarohanam (kalyani) SNDPMGRS, is the same as Bilahari till Pratimadyamam and when 'Ma' is touched, it would become kalyani.

cmlover wrote:I have to hear to believe that MR slipped in MohanaKalyani into Bilahari. He is an iron-clad elephant who neve slips:)

Cmlover is absolutely right. As an ardent rasika of appa (not as his son) all these years, I have not come across a single occasion where he has slipped in a raga. Due to asura sadhaka, he has full control over his voice. Even his brigas are controlled with clarity and precision. He would tell us that the voice should not shake on its own. Only if you want to shake it, it should shake. A minute slip in hemavathi can lead to karaharapriya or Shanmukapriya. But those who have listened to appa's hemavathi , would know that he will sing Hemavathi as hemavathi and nothing else.
But yet, hats off to Rajesh! I still admire his review!