Lyrics-sikkil singAravEla (varnam) - rItigOwLa

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srinpraveen
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Post by srinpraveen »

Hi. Recently I heard a song in Reethi Gowlai sung by Sikkil Gurucharan. It goes like this. "Sikkal Singaravela muthukumara sikkal singara vela". Can I have the full lyrics, talam, composer of the song and if possible an audio pic from the net of the song? I google searched for it but in vain!

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Sikkil (as in his name-the home town of Gurucharan's family) where the murugan temple is situated.
'Sikkal' would mean something different in thamizh: complication, difficulty.
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Vocalist
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Post by Vocalist »

It may be another composition of the Sikkil Sisters. He's related to them...

arasi
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Post by arasi »

His grandmothers. Do they (or one of them) compose? Know of any other songs of theirs?

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Post by drshrikaanth »

arasi wrote:Sikkil (as in his name-the home town of Gurucharan's family) where the murugan temple is situated.
'Sikkal' would mean something different in thamizh: complication, difficulty.
The place name is sikkal. sikkil is a corruption. Papanasam Sivan also says "sikkal singAravEla guhanE" in nekkurugi.

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Post by Lakshman »

The composition is a varNa by Sikkil Sisters.
rasikas.org's own ram has this in his blog here:
http://ramsabode.wordpress.com/2006/11/ ... m-chennai/

arasi
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Post by arasi »

DRS,
So, it IS complicated :)

srinpraveen
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Post by srinpraveen »

Thank You all (esp-LYRICS GURU LAKSHMANJI).
Though the song starts off with "sikkal", its a nice soothing song...superb starter in reethi gowlai....I really hope someone has the lyrics of the song because I am not able to catch hold of an audio pic of the song anywhere in the net to capture the lyrics....

mahakavi

Post by mahakavi »

>>Legend has it that Muchukunda Cholan, associated with the Tiruvarur legend built this temple.Vasishta is said to have prayed to Shiva to recover his Kamadhenu, whose milk flowed & froze to form butter. Fashioning a Lingam out of Butter (Venneippiran), Vasishtar vainfully tried to move it; it had gotten stuck (Sikkal)<<

--Source: templenet.com

sikkikkoNDadAl sikkal enappaTTadu (since it got stuck, the name sikkal stuck to the place). The weird Englishman (sorry nickH!) who could not pronounce the name "sikkal" (elementary my dear John), wrote it down as "sikkil".

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Post by grsastrigal »

Another song by PS- Sikkal Meviya Deva - rendered by Sanjay in a commercial release....

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Post by kutty »

grsastrigal
Another song by PS- Sikkal Meviya Deva - rendered by Sanjay in a commercial release....
who is the producer of this audio pl?

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Post by vjswamy »

Recently I heard this varnam sung by Sikkil Gurucharan in his album December Season 2005. Beautiful piece indeed. I came across this thread while doing a search. I have the audio. Mr. Lakshman, have you been able to get the notation for this varnam since 2007? Thanks.

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Post by Lakshman »

I have only managed to get hold of the lyrics. Corrections welcome.

sikkal singAra vElA. rAgA: rItigauLa. ? tALA. Composers: Sikkil Sisters.

P: sikkal singAra vElA (tiru) muttukumara
A: annai kai vEl vAngi sUranai vadam seidu valli deivayAnaioDu kATSi tarum pUraNi
aDiyArgaL pOTrum kAdA ena kaDambai ena azhaikkum
(muktAyi svara)
pA pa ma ga ri sA ni sa ga ma ga ri sA ni sa ga ma ri sa ni dha ma ni ni sA (x2)
ni ni ni sa sa sa ga ga ga ma ma ma ni ni ni sa sa sa ga ga ma ga ri sa ni dha ma
pa ma ga ri sa nI ni sA sa gA ga mA ma nI ni sA sa gA ga mA ga ri sA sa
ni dha ma ga ri sa ga ma

C: panniru kai vElA ennai rakSippAi
1: sA nI dhA mA pA mA gA rI sA sa ga ma ni ni
2: ni dha ni pa dha ni dhA ma ga ma pa ma ga ri sa ni pA ni ni sA ga ga ma ni ni
3: ma pa ma ga ri sa ga ma pa ma ga ri sa ni dha ma ga ri sa ga ri sa ni dha ma ga ri sa ga ma ni ni
4: sA ga ri sa ni dha ma pa ma ga ri sA (2)
ga mA ma nI ni sA ga ri sa ni dha ma pa ma ga ri sA ga mA ma nI ni sA (x4)
sa ga ma ga ri sa ni sa ni sa ni sA ga ma ga ri sa gamma ni dha ni dha ma nissA
ga ma ga ri sa ni pa nini sA ni sa ga ga ma ga ri sa gamma ni sa ni dha ma ga ni sa
gamma ga ri sa ni pa ni ni sA nissA ga ga ma ga ma ni ni sa ni sa ga ma ga ma
ga ri ma ga ri sA ni dha ma ga ma ni ni ni sa ga ga ma ga ma ni ni sa ni sa ga ga ma
ga ri ma ga ri sA ni dha ma ga ma ni ni

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Post by vjswamy »

Thanks you very much, Mr. Lakshman. I will try listening to the song and see if I can identify the chittaswaras. If I am successful I will post it on the web. Thanks again.

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Post by V_ANNASAMY »

Some possible corrections : (to do corrections there is no sikkal (difficulty) :D

P: sikkal singAra vElA (tiru) muthukumArA (in line with vElA)

A: annai kai vEl vAngi sUranai vadam seidu valli deivayAnayODu kATSi tarum pUraNA ( in line with anthi prASa ' muthukuArA"

aDiyArgaL pOTri, kandA kaDambA ena azhaikkum
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Post by V_ANNASAMY »

'Sikkal' would mean something different in thamizh: complication, difficulty.

'Sikkal'(tamil noun) would also mean 'trap'. From this noun comes, 'sikkichA/sikkiyadA (got trapped or what)

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Post by PUNARVASU »

Here the 'sikkal' is actually 'sikkil' the place -it is near nAgappaTTinam; the singAravElan is the deity here. The sikkil sisters also are from this place.
There is the song 'nekkururugi' in AbhOgi-P.Sivan ,I think-where he sings 'sikkal singAra vEla guhanE'.
The topic title says 'sikkil singAravEla'
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Post by V_ANNASAMY »

When googled, it showed 'Sikkal, near nAgappaTTinam' (Source templenet.com).

Possibly the very name Sikkal il (illAda ) to mean ' not having difficulty, which has become 'sikkil' in spoken language in recent days.

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Post by PUNARVASU »

or it could be sikku+il-(sikku ,sidukku means 'tangles'-normally used with reference to hair) rhyming with pikku,pidungal. :)
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Post by Lakshman »

Thanks. I have added the svarAs. Some please recheck and correct.

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Post by vjswamy »

Thanks for all your comments. Mr. Lakshman, I compared your swaras with mine and made a couple of corrections. Any more corrections are welcome. Here is my edited version.

sikkil singAra vElA. rAgA: rItigauLa. tALA. Adi Composers: Sikkil Sisters.
P: sikkil singAra vElA (tiru) muttukumara
A: annai kai vEl vAngi sUranai vadam seidu valli deivayAnaioDu kAkSi tarum Unnai
aDiyArgaL pOTrum kAndA ena kaDambai ena azhaikkum

(muktAyi svara)
pA pa ma ga ri sA- ni sa ga ma ga ri sA- ni sa ga ma ri sa- ni dha ma ni ni sA (x2)
ni ni ni -sa sa sa- ga ga ga- ma ma ma- ni ni ni -sa sa sa- ga ga- ma ga ri sa ni dha ma
pa ma ga ri sa- nI ni -sA sa -gA ga -mA ma- nI ni sA sa gA ga mA ga ri sA sa
ni dha ma ga ri sa ga ma

C: panniru kai vElA ennai rakSippAi
1: sA nI dhA mA pA mA gA rI sA sa ga ma ni ni
2: ni dha ni- pa dha ni dhA ma- ga ma pa ma ga ri sa ni- pA ni nI sA ga gA mA ni ni
3: ma pa ma ga ri sa- ga ma pa ma ga ri sa- ni dha ma ga ri sa- ga ri sa ni dha ma ga ri- sa ga ma ni ni
4: sA- ga ri sa ni dha- ma pa ma ga ri sA (x2)
ga mA- ma nI -ni sA- ga ri sa ni dha ma pa ma ga ri sA ga mA ma nI ni sA (x4)
sa ga ma ga ri sa- ni dha ni sa ni sA- ga ma ga ri sa -gamma ni sa ni dha ma nissA
ga ma ga ri sa- ni pa nini sA- ni sa- ga ga ma ga ri sa gamma ni sa ni dha ma ni sa
gamma ga ri sa ni pa ni ni sA- nissA ga ga ma ga ma ni ni sa ni sa ga ga ma
ga ri ma ga ri sA ni dha ma ga ma ni ni ni sa ga ga ma ga ma ni ni sa ni sa ga ga ma
ga ri ma ga ri sA ni dha ma ga ma ni ni
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Post by Lakshman »

Thanks.

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Post by sramaswamy »

Punarvasu wrote:Here the 'sikkal' is actually 'sikkil' the place -it is near nAgappaTTinam; the singAravElan is the deity here. The sikkil sisters also are from this place.
There is the song 'nekkururugi' in AbhOgi-P.Sivan ,I think-where he sings 'sikkal singAra vEla guhanE'.
The topic title says 'sikkil singAravEla'
See Post #9 in this same topic above, where Mahakavi has explained that it should be Sikkal and not Sikkil. However, even Sikkil Sisters and Sikkil Gurucharan use Sikkil and Sikkal!

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