Shashank - Sydney 7th April 2007

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 08 Apr 2007, 06:23

Flute: Shashank
Mrudangam: Parupalli S. Phalgun

Concert presented by Fine Arts and Cultural Themes, Sydney

1. Viriboni, Bhairavi (charanam in 3 speeds)
2. Ganamurthi, Ganamurthi (A, S)
3. Annapurne, Sama
4. Ma ramanan, Hindolam (A, S)
5. Minakshi me mudam, Purvikalyani (A, S, T)
Interval
6. RTP, Abheri, Khanda Jathi Triputa (samam) - "Thyagaraja agaraja raja yoga vaibhavam. Vaibhavam bhavam vam.
Ragamalika swaram is ragas inculding Malayamarutam, Dwijavanti, Saveri, Sahana, Kharaharapriya, Ranjani, Mohanam, Behag, Valaji, Hamsanadham, Subhapantuvarali, Kapi, Sindhubhairavi, Bowli, Sriranjani, Hamirkalyani,
7. Barokrishnayya, Ragamalika
8. Vishweshwara, Sindhubhairavi
9. Kavadi chindu

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 08 Apr 2007, 07:06

I like Shashank's playing. The song list looks familiar, though...

schandi · Post by **schandi** » 10 Apr 2007, 21:37

Mar 31st 2007, Saratoga, CA

Flute: Shashank
Violin: B.U. Ganesh Prasad
Mrudangam: Parupalli S. Phalgun

Concert presented by SIFA

Varnam, Sri (charanam in 3 speeds)
Ganamurthi, Ganamurthi (A, S)

Minakshi me mudam, Purvikalyani (A, S, T)

RTP, Abheri, Khanda Jathi Triputa (samam) - "Thyagaraja agaraja raja yoga vaibhavam. Vaibhavam bhavam vam.

Vishweshwara, Sindhubhairavi

These were some of the songs he played here! I will try to post the full song list soon.

Chandra

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 10 Apr 2007, 21:46

I hope Shashank, with his immense talent, would vary his presentaions elsewhere...

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 10 Apr 2007, 22:49

Shashank could put them all on a CD or DVD and send it to various locales to be audiocast or videocast on a big screen. This would make it cheaper for the audience to attend.

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 10 Apr 2007, 22:49

schandi wrote:Mar 31st 2007, Saratoga, CA

Minakshi me mudam, Purvikalyani (A, S, T)
Vishweshwara, Sindhubhairavi
Chandra

Actually Shashank said he might have played mInAkShi mE mudam, but he'd choose parama pAvana rAma, since this is Rama navami season.

The bhajam IIRC, was not vishweshavara darshan.

The song list of SIFA concert lives here:

http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2460

-Ramakriya

greatkrishna · Post by **greatkrishna** » 07 Sep 2007, 06:48

To be fair Shashank is not the only artist around who seems to have a limited repetoire. A few vocalists have the same vice.

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 07 Sep 2007, 11:37

Hi everybody,

I am also a great fan of Shashank's flute recitals.

He is in the process of learning HM nowadays.

So not many concerts locally here.

But in the recent past, I was looking for Albums of his play/concerts. I was taken by surprise.
Most of it is available through web at a very high cost. And when I went to Music season
at Chennai , I found a few of them at the Music world and another place but a single CD is
priced at Rs300-500. One can get a double CD of a 3 hour concert of TMK or Sanjay
at that price.

They are not avilable in casette form except for some of his old albums.

But overall I was a bit disappointed.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 07 Sep 2007, 11:57

I understand he is learning from Jasraj

appu · Post by **appu** » 07 Sep 2007, 18:19

In all fairness to the artist, if the audience base is different why cannot the artists repeat the same songs. I understand it could be considered repetitious or even boring if he performed the same pallavi or kriti to the same audience.

I have heard yester year greats who on a concert tour have played the same pallavi over and over again at different venues. The rationale is very simple. If the pallavi is new to the accompanists then after 4 or 5 presentations the accompanists get comfortable and are able to eleviate the music to a different plain. (As quoted by a very famous musician)

dkv · Post by **dkv** » 30 Nov 2007, 01:46

In the name of Fusion look what people can resort to -

http://video.webindia123.com/music/zakir/index.htm

reminds one of 'bro--che--vaa--revarura---- ninu vina---- raghu vara----' - sung like 'tappanguttu' by the bogus Music teacher in the telugu Movie -'Shankarabhranam'.

Flutist Shashank using a Tabla to play 'Sudhamayi' in Amritavarshini? looks like he's lost self-confidence in his playing, hence resorting to such tricks!!! or is the lustful lure of money from such commercial events? why not he start playing film songs next? sad state for CArnatic Music - our own musicians selling it, in the name of Fusion. wonder how come reputed HIndustani Vocalists/Instrumentalists haven't started using Mridangam for their concerts? even amateur HIndustani artists stick to tradition - how? Ask yourself dear Artist - what is it that you seek from your Music?

mri_fan · Post by **mri_fan** » 30 Nov 2007, 02:05

to be fair...

lalgudi toured with Ramabhadran and Zahir Hussain in the US, and some comercial recordings of those concerts are available commerical

i don't see a huge problem with it, if its kept in moderation.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 30 Nov 2007, 08:29

dkv: I do not relate to your vehement objection to this. Especially comparing it to the Brocheva comedy is way too harsh. It sounds like a perfectly fitting Indian classical music to me. In fact, it is an interesting contrast to see how the mridangam player plays to the song compared to how the tabla player plays. In the end, I thought the mridangam player did a better job of playing to complement ( and anticipate ) the rhythmic structure of the song better than tabla. And at speed and excitement, tabla stands out. At that level, it is all personal taste within the perfectly classical realm.

With respect to non-mridangam and non-gatam accompaniments to CM, Chembai had used Dolak to very good effect. And there are certain songs for which other percussion instruments do a bit better job. Like, for any song in Yadukulakambhoji about Shiva's dance udukkai and dolak in appropriate dosages at the right spots sound great and quite appropriate. E.g. In Kalai thookki, as the song transitions from one charanam to the other, these other instruments add a lot of contextual flavor, whether it is a music concert or in a dance program.

BTW, Thanks for the link

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 30 Nov 2007, 09:20

In the end, I thought the mridangam player did a better job of playing to complement ( and anticipate ) the rhythmic structure of the song better than tabla.

exactly my thoughts too!

dkv · Post by **dkv** » 30 Nov 2007, 10:45

well - looks like this forum has lots of die-hard Shashank fans!

or fusion appeals better than paddhati here?

well, being harsh or not, is one's own viewpoint. this is a discussion forum- everyone is free to express their own ideas. its the same Shashank who claimed few years ago that he wouldn't play Thillanas in his concerts because it is against tradition!! and what would you all say - if the same attempt was made by an upcoming artist, he would be put to severe criticism.

anyway, gone are the days of Tyagaraja and Dikshitar - I guess. Its strange that Mozart, Bach etc are not polluted even today. Even Maestro Ilayaraja has said that it surprised him to no end, to see a that small country like Hungary had several Symphony orchestra groups, who have not deviated from their art.

and of course, the main question here is - if Fusion is what appeals - let people stick to 'Pallavi' structure, which gives more scope for exploration - akin to Hindustani. why pollute the Kritis???

Ask Pandit Jasraj (Shashank's present Guru)- maybe he can add a point here.

My sincere view is that artists are jumping to fusion mainly due to the 'money' element involved by the corporate events, who want 'entertainment' for their 'thalayai attum puriyaadha koottam---' crowd - its not the fault of the artist but the system, which doesn't know how to preserve its own heritage.

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 30 Nov 2007, 11:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L56JncpSvrQ

Talking about Bach

Found the title of this clip funny...

BTW I am for pure music...fusion is Ok for relaxation...

mri_fan · Post by **mri_fan** » 30 Nov 2007, 11:32

dkv wrote:well - looks like this forum has lots of die-hard Shashank fans!

or fusion appeals better than paddhati here?

well, being harsh or not, is one's own viewpoint. this is a discussion forum- everyone is free to express their own ideas. its the same Shashank who claimed few years ago that he wouldn't play Thillanas in his concerts because it is against tradition!! and what would you all say - if the same attempt was made by an upcoming artist, he would be put to severe criticism.

anyway, gone are the days of Tyagaraja and Dikshitar - I guess. Its strange that Mozart, Bach etc are not polluted even today. Even Maestro Ilayaraja has said that it surprised him to no end, to see a that small country like Hungary had several Symphony orchestra groups, who have not deviated from their art.

and of course, the main question here is - if Fusion is what appeals - let people stick to 'Pallavi' structure, which gives more scope for exploration - akin to Hindustani. why pollute the Kritis???

Ask Pandit Jasraj (Shashank's present Guru)- maybe he can add a point here.

My sincere view is that artists are jumping to fusion mainly due to the 'money' element involved by the corporate events, who want 'entertainment' for their 'thalayai attum puriyaadha koottam---' crowd - its not the fault of the artist but the system, which doesn't know how to preserve its own heritage.

so to you, one adept carnatic flautist learning and performing some elements of a different style of music means that our carnatic system doesn't know how to preserve its own heritage???

overreact much? since when did one carnatic flautist speak for an entire ancient system that preceeds him and will outlive all of us?

and your tone suggests that you have a problem with shashank learning hindustani music...who are you to decide that for him?

and for the record, no im not a particular fan of shashanks music, but I had to respond to your outlandish claims and faulty conclusions

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 30 Nov 2007, 13:11

or fusion appeals better than paddhati here?

Calling that video Fusion is quite a mischief since fusion has the negative connation among classical enthusiasts since anything under the sun goes under the umbrella name Fusion. That piece is Indian Classical Music, that is the right label for it.

Actually I do not know much about Shashank. Thanks for the info that he is learning from Pt. Jasraj.

dkv · Post by **dkv** » 30 Nov 2007, 17:13

hello - mri_fan:

looks like you have a problem with me

for others here,
There was a similar criticism about U.Shrinivas in this same forum. I was only giving an opinion on this artist, as this particular page was talking about him.

and excuse me, I have no problem with any Shashank or anyone learning or performing anything. If anything, I'm a devotee of Saint Tyagaraja and have known what his music means to me and my life - that's all.

What i have mentioned here is only an anguish that our music is not the same as what it was before - previously it was pure devotion which motivated the Vaggeyakaras - and now... - well, i'm a 'nimitta' to comment...

and its not just one Shashank or U.Shrinivas - several musicians are doing the same thing now.

Svaapana · Post by **Svaapana** » 01 Dec 2007, 16:30

The great Mali also had limited repetoire. In later days he would allow the violinist to complete the krithi, often playing the main song only once. But what a great music he provided. Peerless.