Key Board Sathyanarayan's concert in Thrimoorthi Sanggetha

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R Krishnamurthy
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Post by R Krishnamurthy »

The concert of ]Sathyanarayana (THRIMOORTHI SANGEETHA SABHA, 07-12-07) on the Key Board was scintilating from the beginning with sri Raga varnam. I have heard him about three years ago in the same sabha and the difference now is quite evidend, he has aquired a lot of skill in gamakas and bringing Raga Bhavas well. His rendering of Raga Varali was matured and revealing his skill in delineating the subtlties and nuances of this difficult raga.
With more familiarity of sangathis in some of the keertanas , especially of Saint Thyagaraj (which the child is sure to master in yaers to come) the import of the same could be brought out more strikingly.

He was very ably assisted by Karakal Venkatasubramanian on the violin and by Tillaisthanam Syryanarayanan on the Mridangam and by Hariharasubramanian on the Ghatam.

The concert was well attanded by the involved Rasikas and apreciated.

tkb
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Post by tkb »

Dear Mr Krishnamurthy,

Thank you for the post and fyi have uploaded the concert which is in the link
http://tinyurl.com/26fjgr . Pls listen and members may post their views.

TKB

mri_fan
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Post by mri_fan »

I have to be suspicious...how unusual is it that R. Krishnamurthy has never made a single post....maybe im just a cynical old coot....

mridhangam
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Post by mridhangam »

Mr.Krishnamurthy is the secretary of that sabha. The next day i had a concert at that sabha he told me that he never wrote any reviews of any of the concerts that he had organised. Because Keyboard is a new instrument requiring some more attention from the audience from the point that it is typically a western/light instrument where the gamakas and moorchanas typical of carnatic music still eludes most of the players. In that sence R.Krishnamurthy made his first attempt and he also told me that he registered at this site and made a short review. He also told me that while reviewing the concert, which he does after tani avartanam, he made a mention that while violin, Mandolin were also western instruments when they were first adapted to carnatic music. But today they have come a long way and stayed in the field and there are many takers. (Though in my view there is no comparison between violin and mandolin). The point here is also that Satya is a young boy and also he is taking Carnatic music through a fairly difficult instrument which needs encouragement. On one side we are rueing that there are no takers for carnatic music and on the other side we sometimes become suspicious about the intentions of somebody. What i feel here is that we can be catholic enough to welcome new-comers with open arms and also see to it that they dont stray too much away from classical music and define a new tradition thereby defying tradition.
Hope I am not mistaken in my intentions too as i am in no way connected with Satya and their family except that i know Embar Kannan, who is the uncle of Satya, for many years. For the first time i will be playing for Satya in KGS on 25th in the afternoon. Moreover the ID TKB is his father's ID.

I think Mr.Krishnamurthy did the whole review in good intention of generating an interest in newer forms and modes for older expressions. He also made another mention that in another decade or so god knows even this keyboard concerts also will become the main stay instruments.

Best wishes for Satya is all what i can say.

J.Balaji

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Post by srkris »

Please post reviews in the reviews section and not in general discussions. Thanks. This thread has been moved to reviews now.

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Post by sindhu »

While reading, RK's opening coverage of the concert, nowhere it is said that R.Krishnamurthy is the secretary of that sabha. A benefit of doubt remains - this RK may be a different person.

mridhangam
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Post by mridhangam »

Member Sindhu

I generally dont give any wrong information. I verified and found that Mr.R.Krishnamurthy is the Secretary of that sabha.

J.Balaji

dkv
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Post by dkv »

I heard that Kum.Jayaprada Ramamurthy (Flute) also performed there? Ambika Prasad and J.Balaji also seem to have accompanied her. but there seems to be no review for it- being a member here, Can J.Balaji give any info on this program? or any info from the Sabha Secretary on this?

She is a rising star from Andhra and one of the handful who are still stuck to traditional music, particularly Flute.

I heard her Akashvani Sammelan concert on Radio and have posted a review of the same. Its remarkable such a young artist has made it to such a prestigious event. I feel very happy to see youngsters like her sustaining our musical heritage.

I think Kum.Jayaprada definitely needs more exposure in columns like this.

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Post by harimau »

There was a review of this keyboard concert by Harikesanallur Venkataraman in "Dina Thanthi". Sri Venkataraman points out that while the concert was good the instrument (keyboard) is definitely unsuited for Carnatic music and wonders why Sathyanarayana's talent in music is being wasted on this instrument as opposed to being channelised into either the violin (which he can learn from as close a source as his maternal uncle Embar Sri Kannan) or into vocal music.

It is an idea that merits serious consideration by the artist and his parents.

As far as mandolin is concerned, how many mandolin artists draw a crowd the way young Srinivas did? And exactly how many saxophone artists are popular other than Kadri Gopalnath? And even in clarinet, how many artists can we name beyond Sri AKC Natarajan? Last year, I believe there was one Carnatic kutchery in Harmonium and perhaps one where an artist whistled the music!

When an isntrument like jalatarangam doesn't have many takers, is it necessary to use the keyboard as a standalone instrument for Carnatic music? Heck, even the venerable veena doesn't gt an audience even when seasoned artists play.

At some point, the novelty of the keyboard will wear off and Sathyanarayana will be left high and dry and will be forced into "fusion" music. So, I think Sri Venkataraman is right on the money with his advice.

Actually, I shouldn't have used the expression "right on the money". After all, organizations such as "The Hindu" pay more for fusion music than they pay for classical Carnatic music!

PS. I plan to play the Kazoo one day at some venue!

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Post by dkv »

Jayaprada Ramamurthy - 'THE HINDU' chennai

http://www.hindu.com/ms/2006/12/29/stor ... 030700.htm

tkb
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Post by tkb »

This is Krishnababu f/o Sathyanarayanan. I wish to inform that Sathya presented the concert on that day with Ka Va Va as the main krithi on Varali. and When I saw the posting of Mr Krishnamurthy here, I immediately responded with a thanks message and also gave a link for the audio for people to hear. Thank you Mr. J. Balaji for the detailed msg I fail to understand why people look at or hear music from keyboard as a alien music. I repeatedly ask people to come out with constructive remarks like, when Sathya plays a raga or krithi I request all to try and tell us where the required nuance of gamaka is lagging so that he would try to perfect. But we have people only criticizing on the whole and not being specific.

In the case of the article by Sri Venkatraman in Dhina Thanthi, he surely has praised Sathya and expressed his disappointment of Sathya not taking up other form of expressing his musical thought. Thanks to all his suggestions. We still believe Sathya is just 12 years of age and as he grows will understand what is best suited & use same as media of expressing his musical thoughts. For information same Mr Vemkatraman has also praised Sathya with his article in Daily Thandhi titled "Issai ulagain Ilam Natchathram" in the issue dated 5.1.2005 and his first article titled "Paal manam maradha Bhaghavathar"on the14th Dec'03. ( If one wants to read the article please log on to http://reviewsonsathya.blogspot.com/ ) Just to understand the progress of his playing on the instrument, if any one needs I can post audio of his first performance at the age of 6 and half and people can attend any his performance in this season and evaluate his progress.

Coming to articles in print media being highlighted to substantiate facts, I wonder how people like harimau fail to read article like these in The Hindu
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2 ... 050300.htm with the title "Gamakas on Keyboard" by Ms B. Ramadevi
and http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2 ... 860300.htm with the title "Gamakas are not alien to Keyboard" by Ms Ranjani Govind. We still believe that Sathya is just not even in the first steps of achieving his best on the instrument and this gives us a great sense of hope for him to explore more and more.

I sincerely thank harimau for the concern expressed and strongly believe that with the grace of the almighty and the wishes of his well wishers Sathya will never be left high & dry and that we will be guided properly by the almighty. For sure this answer is purely from me and I can promise I do not operate with duplicate ids in any forum.

TKB

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Post by tkb »

Dear Well Wishers,

Here is the list of concert Sathya is to perform during the period 23rd to 30th Dec'07 for the Dec'07 Music festival. We request you to kindly attend whichever concert you can. We will also be uploading possible audio / video files apart from updating the blogs regularly. We would appreciate your feedback on attending the concerts / listening to the tracks, which will help Sathya explore more.

23 December Sunday 1:30pm Mylapore Fine Arts, Oliver Road, Chennai

24 December Monday 1pm Chennaiyil Thiruvaiyaru Kamaraj Hall, Mount Road, Chennai

25 December Tuesday 12noon Sri Krishna Gana Sabha, T. Nagar

27 December Thursday 2 pm Sri Parthasarathy Swami Sabha
Vidhya Bharathi Kalyana Mandapam, Mylapore

29 December Saturday 3pm Nadhalaya Trust Hotel New Woodlands

30 December Sunday 10 am Thyaga Brahma Gana Sabha, Vani Mahal

30 December Sunday 6:30 pm Padma Sarangabani Trust, Villiwakkam

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas

Lalitha & Krishnababu
p/o Sathyanarayanan
+91 94443 90193

dundubi
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Post by dundubi »

harimau wrote:There was a review of this keyboard concert by Harikesanallur Venkataraman in "Dina Thanthi". Sri Venkataraman points out that while the concert was good the instrument (keyboard) is definitely unsuited for Carnatic music and wonders why Sathyanarayana's talent in music is being wasted on this instrument
I&B minister Sri Keskar very correctly banned keyboard instrument from All India Radio in the early days as temper scale was considered bad influence. in the golden period of AIR we had long programs on raagam tanam pallavi and even advanced samskrit grammar but everybody only listened to ceylon radio. but we must also take into account that pitch variation is more possible in modern keyboard than harmoniam. but i agree that the talent is better spent on violin or veena or flute. novelty only is for few years.

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Post by vira »

Why is there no response to the post from Sathya's father regarding the recordings? I think he has been mighty fair in asking people to give it a listen before making disparaging remarks.

Also, after reading the reviews in the HIndu, I am confused. Those reviews and the one in the Dinathanthi, whilst talking about the same instrument, take such opposing views.

The I & B minister has no business to ban any instrument because it is "unmusical" or whatever the technical term is. Such moral police, who think vainly of themselves as the guardians of our culture, are the bane of our country. And those who quote them as examples and look up to them are more to be pitied than censured. The violin was surely a novelty when it was taken up in Carnatic music and see where it stands today.

Is there someone who can tehcnically explain why the keyboard is incapable of producing "Carnatic-level" gamakas? Can Mr. Venkataraman honestly state that he measures vocal concerts by the same yardstick that he uses for the keyboard? And, if so, how many concerts has he reviewed where the vocalist has impeccably brought out the 15 gamakas? This is all idle talk.

If one were so inclined, there are a lot of recordings of Sathya's music. One can listen to them and pinpoint areas where the keyboard falls short of the ideal. Perhaps that will be calling someone's bluff, eh?

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

> "pinpoint areas where the keyboard falls short of the ideal".

Vira, Don't be surprised if you get what you ask for: :P Sri, tkb has been consistently and rightfully presenting Satya as a young boy who is still learning. And you are asking people at large to evaluate the appropriateness of keyboard for CM using Satya's recordings. It will add a lot of unfair pressure to the young artist. It will take some time before anyone is considered a torchbearer of a new instrument.

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