Concert of TNSKrishna at Karthik Fine Arts on 20-12-2007

sarojaRamanujam · Post by **sarojaRamanujam** » 21 Dec 2007, 20:12

Review of the concert of TNSKrishna at Karthik fine arts on 20-12-2007

TNSKrishna started his concert with the pasuram ,â€™kulam tharum selvamâ€™ in raga malika, it seems , but I missed it and went in only when he was singing the navaragamalika varnam. This was followed by an excellent panthuvarali and the krthi was â€˜ramanatham bajeham,â€™of subbarayasasthri,with neraval svaram at â€˜kumaraguruguha mahitham.â€™ It is needless to say that the svaraprasthara was extremely good because he has won acclaim singing with his father in his concerts. The next was sahana with the padhigam ,â€™thadittha Or maganai,â€™ followed by the arutpa of Ramalinga swamigal ,appaa naan vendudhal kEttu.â€™ Both were rendered beautifully with bhava. Then Krishna sang ,â€™srikanthaneeyeta,â€™ a Thyagarajakrthi in bhavapriya.

The next was a fantastic madhyamavathi with grahabhedham, smoothly blended with the main raga. The krthi was .â€™palinchukaamakshi,â€™ of Shyamasasthri, with svaraprasthara was at ,kaanthamakuperu,â€™ and both the raga and svara proved that he is the lionâ€™s-cub fast becoming a full-fledged lion . Krishna imbibed the music and the bhava from his father and guru TNS adding to it his own manodharma which does his father proud while establishing him as a musician in his own merit.

Krishna ended his programme with the pasurams, â€˜pacchaimaamalaiâ€™ and â€˜thuppudaiyaaraiâ€™ in hamsanandi followed by the thillana in hamsanandi. As a rasika remarked, â€œkaNNaimoodindaal appadiye appaadhaan,â€

Svaapana · Post by **Svaapana** » 21 Dec 2007, 20:25

You mean ramanatham bajeham my MD?

sarojaRamanujam · Post by **sarojaRamanujam** » 22 Dec 2007, 11:52

I have a group of my own and other blogs and I do not need rasikas.org as my media. Thank you sripathi and Meena. If any rasika of TNS is interested in reading my reviews they can become a member in my yahoo group rasika_tns . As per the writing of sam swaminathan regarding the comment of harimou being innocuous please read his revview of the concert of TNS at Parthsarathy swami sabha and you will understand that it is a planned campaign against everything connected with TNS and against the conmmunity of Iyengars in general and may be against the opposite sex also. It is what is called cavilling due to personal intolerance of eminence in others especially TNS in particular. So goodbye rasikas.org You may continue to publish such'innocous' reviews.

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 22 Dec 2007, 11:53

I had to delete all the posts that were about who can review and how. If people dont like to read some reviews, they are free not to. But attacking the reviewer personally is in bad taste.

Please observe decorum. If you want lodge a private protest to the reviewer by email. No mudslinging, direct or indirect can be allowed here. Thanks for the understanding.

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 22 Dec 2007, 12:01

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srkris · Post by **srkris** » 22 Dec 2007, 12:10

Let's please lay the issue to rest now... thanks.

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 22 Dec 2007, 12:27

Sorry srkirs for the post. probably your post deleting the posts & my post crossed. I have deleted my post

Ragjay · Post by **Ragjay** » 22 Dec 2007, 14:12

Hi It is with regret that I read about the intention of Saroja Madam to leave the forum because of the strong comments of Sam Swaminathan(himself an artist.......) Madam all that I can say is that merely because of such comments you need not leave our forum.After all it is only one extreme point of view which you have strongly rebutted. Personally i would not like to be involved in slander at a personal level and comments must be made w.r.t. the performance only .It is not necessary that everybody has to agree with reviews made.There may be a different perception to the same concert at a personal level due to various factors and if it manifests in the form of the same concert being reviewed in a negative sense without any personal attack on the reviewer or the artist then we must be catholic enough to accept it. I hope you reconsider ur decision and stay on.. Ragjay

Sam Swaminathan · Post by **Sam Swaminathan** » 22 Dec 2007, 14:44

Ragjay...I did not say any thing...why are you dragging me into this? I was merely commenting on what Harimau had written, because I could not understand the purport of his post and the rejoinder by SarojaRamanujam's response threatening to stop her reviews. My response was seeking a clarification than any thing else.....

Srkris....can you please reinstate what I had written so that people can see that I had nothing do with this nonsense...thanks!!

Sam Swaminathan · Post by **Sam Swaminathan** » 22 Dec 2007, 14:55

SarojaRamanujam...my reply in this thread in all sincerity, was in response to harimau. I really did not understand the real meaning of what he had written and to me it sounded innacuous. I do not know harimau personally and I have nothing to do with him. My posts are basically related to what is being written in this site and my own feelings towards each post. I have nothing against any artists. I do not even live in India and as for any thing against iyengars, I do not know what the hell you are talking about. Please leave me out of this nonsense and take your battle to where ever else you desire.

srkris, I am getting out this quagmire.....thanks for every thing.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 22 Dec 2007, 15:17

I once again apologize for exacerbating the situation. I was not aware of the sensitivities involved. LIke Sam I too did not understand what was written in Tamizh in the other thread and it was possibly in bad taste. As I have said earlier I am almost a devotee of TNS and am pained to see the damage that has been done.

Srkris thanks for deleting the offending posts. Madam Saroja/Sam Swaminathan please reconsider leaving this forum. Let us close this unfortunate chapter here and now. This forum is seeing some dark debates and I hope we will soon oevrcome it.

Ragjay · Post by **Ragjay** » 22 Dec 2007, 21:42

Sam I am sorry if I have been instrumental in hurting you in any manner I only wanted to suggest that there is nothing personal and one must be catholic enough to accept extreme views on review of concerts , it is only a perception of what one experienced which manifests in the form of a review of a particular concert.....Yes Sam I have seen your post and I stand corrected my lapse may be condoned Rest assured I have no intention of dragging you or kicking up a controversy... but only expressed my view Ragjay

meena · Post by **meena** » 23 Dec 2007, 02:22

Sam I am sorry if I have been instrumental in hurting you in any manner I only wanted to suggest that there is nothing personal and one must be catholic enough to accept extreme views on review of concerts ,

one must be catholic ???

AMEN!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 23 Dec 2007, 02:27

Meena, I think by catholic, Ragjay means 'universal, broad in sympathies, tastes, or interests' and not the religion.

Sam Swaminathan · Post by **Sam Swaminathan** » 23 Dec 2007, 03:25

Vijay and Ragjay....I accept your statements and I will leave the subject here. As for sarojaRamanujam, I had never and will never have any thing against Shri TNS...for I have great respect for him and his music. That is my last word on this subject.

Ragjay · Post by **Ragjay** » 23 Dec 2007, 04:46

Vasinthakokilam:) I You have hit the nail on its head...... I have meant that precisely.. catholic meaning broadminded .. Thanks Sam for understanding.... Bye Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all Members of this forum... Ragjay

meena · Post by **meena** » 23 Dec 2007, 07:43

Ragjay i would have preferred YOU to hit THE nail ! :/

meena · Post by **meena** » 23 Dec 2007, 07:43

Merry Christmas !

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 23 Dec 2007, 07:56

catholic hits the nail on the head and gets in return a 'Merry Christmas'

That is the right spirit of the season for the Prince of Peace !

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 23 Dec 2007, 23:08

Amen!

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 23 Dec 2007, 23:36

don't believe everything you read in a dictionary... the catholics carried on their crusades and inquisitions for a few centuries before authoring this definition!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 24 Dec 2007, 00:07

I do not necessarily want to take the thread in linguistics direction but here is a way to bring it to something indian.

Here is the often stated etimology for the word catholic. From Latin Cathlicus which in turn from Greek katholikos <- kata-holos, Holos itself seems to come from Sol which has a connection to the Sanskrit word 'sarva' ( they all mean Whole, universal, general, all in one etc. )

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 24 Dec 2007, 00:22

They all originated from the ancient Tamil word
'kAthalikka' meaning making love (of course universally!)

saravanan · Post by **saravanan** » 24 Dec 2007, 11:16

thanks Saroja for quitting this.Frankly it was too boring to read all the reviews which were only praising the father /son duo.

meena · Post by **meena** » 24 Dec 2007, 11:57

saravanan wrote:thanks Saroja for quitting this.Frankly it was too boring to read all the reviews which were only praising the father /son duo.

That was not nice! For that u just got a free ticket to the cage.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 24 Dec 2007, 22:40

Certainly, for a person who has made a total of 0.02 % of all the posts here, it is interesting to see that 10% of Saravanan's posts are nasty!

Chembai - I thought you made a comment that review of a reviewer was not kosher!

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 25 Dec 2007, 08:16

cmlover wrote:They all originated from the ancient Tamil word
'kAthalikka' meaning making love (of course universally!)

That explains why the Catholic Church in the West is embroiled in so many scandals.

PS. I have now established my anti-Catholic stance with this post. Those who are offended can sue me. Or, leave this forum.

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Dec 2007, 08:20

harimau
watchout , u too will make it to the cage

BTW which conc/artist is on ur next hit list

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 26 Dec 2007, 15:19

hi all,

I think there is a place for everyone here. If someone is simply bashing a particular artist or writing highly critical reviews , people will discount his reviews with a good percentage. Same is true for overpraising, we can easily make out that they are biased devotees of this school of music or this family and discount on the other side. This is not difficult thing to do. But please donot bring in caste (I mean sub caste like iyengar). We are not in era of ponniyen selvan where smarthas and iyengars used to fight even before kings like raja raja chola and sembian-ma-devi. Such assumptions that reviews are against a particular caste is difficult to understand.

One more thing.., TNS is highly accomplished guy. He is highly skilled and high level of manodharma artist. He is not only in vocal music and is a sakalakalavallavan of CM . May be he didnot write songs. He does kadhakalashebam, plays veena , now plays keyboard. Sometime I think people get benefit of being in limelight by criticising him. Like Bret lee saying he like to bowl to Sachin. Imagine where is Sachin and where is Bret le. But it is a technique to get attention and in the process get popularity. Remember SSI and subbudu.

I observed that Kumudam reporter , not this year but last year , during music season reviews criticised TMK. But the writing looked very explicitly personal. Nothing on the technique or skill or concert but more on the attitude and that too his/her own feelings. But these are not difficult to understand. So leave it to the public to interpret unless we have a very competent editor and his time.

But my personal feeling is that in this forum there are lot of TNS supporters.

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 26 Dec 2007, 21:40

My most enjoyable "concert" of TNS was his lec-dem on "Thiruvaasaga Then" during the 2000 season for Parthasarathy Swamy Sabha. The man is a fountain of knowledge and his presentation included so many facts from all walks of life that made it most memorable. And in this event, the divine music was just icing on the cake.