Names of the 35 talas

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sbala
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I don't know if this is common knowledge but I'm furnishing it below anyway from Sharmaji's book. Please correct mistakes if any

Name Jati Serial Numbers by Prastara
Pancanga Sadanga Samyuktanga Number of Kriyas
Dhruva Talam (1011)
1. Mani 3 - 20 149 11
2. Srikara 4 7 25 553 14
3. Pramana 5 - 33 2129 17
4. Purna 7 - 67 33089 23
5. Bhuvana 9 - 156 525569 29

Mathya Thalam(101)
6. Sara 3 - 5 21 8
7. Sama 4 3 5 41 10
8. Udaya 5 - 5 81 12
9. Udirna 7 - 5 321 16
10. Rava 9 - 5 1281 20

Rupaka (01)

11. Cakra 3 - 1 3 5
12. Patti 4 1 1 3 6
13. Raja 5 - 1 3 7
14. Kula 7 - 1 3 9
15. Bindu 9 - 1 3 11

Jhampa (IUO)
16. Kadamba 3 - 9 13 6
17. Madhura 4 - 8 25 7
18. Cana 5 - 10 49 8
19. Sura 7 - 18 193 10
20. Kara 9 - 39 769 12

Triputa (IOO)

21. Sankha 3 - 11 21 7
22. Adi 4 5 10 41 8
23. Duskara 5 - 8 81 9
24. Lila 7 - 8 321 11
25. Bhoga 9 - 8 1281 13

Ata (IIOO)

26. Gupta 3 - 71 71 10
27. Lekha 4 15 85 649 12
28. Vidala 5 - 110 2577 14
29. Loya 7 - 233 41025 18
30. Dhira 9 - 555 655617 22

Eka (I)

31. Sudha 3 - 1 1 3
32. Mana 4 1 1 1 4
33. Rata 5 - 1 1 5
34. Raga 7 - 1 1 7
35. Vasu 9 - 1 1 9
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msakella
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Dear brother-member, sbala, Just before the treatise, Sangita Ratnakara (13th century)
Parshvadeva brought out his ‘Sangita Samayasara’ in which he, for the first time in the annals of our music literature, had furnished 52 Talas along with serial numbers. But, unfortunately, after a lapse of 700 years in the 20th century, the incorrectness of 25 numbers of them has come into light. To avoid such embarrassment of furnishing incorrect serial numbers, Sharngadeva, the author of Sangita Ratnakara, has conveniently skipped off furnishing the serial numbers to the Talas in the Talaprastara portion of his Taladhyaya but furnished a new list of 120 Talas (neither of 101 Talas nor of 108 Talas of that time) intelligently including two Talas in his own name (Sharngadeva-tala) and title (Nisshanka-tala). The incorrect definitions of his Talaprastara obviously reveal that he, in the absence of the correct knowledge of Talaprastara, copied it from some other available source and other authors also followed suit. Thus, this rarest topic, Talaprastara was driven into oblivion and later generations lost the knowledge of this topic. However, the list of 158 talas furnished along with serial numbers in Gayakalochanam by Tacchur Singarachrya Bros. in 1902, reveals that this topic is not extinct fully (but, unfortunately, again 43 serial numbers of them are found incorrect). Without having proper understanding of this topic, some of the comtemporary authors also furnished incorrect and contradictory versions of it in their works and some other musicologists have gone to the extent of declaring this topic useless and irrelevant to the present day music. While this topic is receiving international acclaim in all other countries in the name of ‘Combinatorics’ our musicians are unable to know its value and utilization of it. Unlike any other system of music of the world, our ancestors utilized this topic long long ago.
Chi. sbala dear, in which way Sharngadeva wantonly skipped off furnishing the serial umbers of his Talas, now, you also have skipped off the 3 kinds of serial numbers of the 35 Talas furnished by me in the page No.114 of my book, Indian Genius in Talaprastara but furnished only the names of them in spite of your recently acquired knowledge of this topic. Better late than never. Even now, furnish another list of 35 Talas along with their serial numbers to enlighten our aspirants in this topic. amsharma.

sbala
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Sharmaji,
I did see the serial numbers:-) I will post the same
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msakella
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Dear brother-member, sbala, You have responded to my post on 07-07-2007 and wrote that you would post the serial numbers of the 35 Talas soon. But, I don't know why you did not do it! If you do that our society will be benefitted. Hope you will do it at the earliest. amsharma.

msakella
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Post by msakella »

Dear brother-member, sbala, Having seen this post and even without going through your previous post, I thought you have not yet furnished the serial numbers and wrote like that. Later I found the serial numbers in your previous post. Sorry for the mistake I have committed. amsharma.

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