Music Appreciation Programmes

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 22 Feb 2008, 23:15

Music Club IIT Madras

presents

Music Appreciation Programme. (lecture - demonstrations)

March 5th

Prof N Ramanathan
Topic: "The Concept of Ragams and their evolution in Indian Music"

March 6th

Prof S R Janakiraman
Topic: "The Classification of Ragams: Mela Ragams, Rakthi Ragams etc"

March 7th

Dr R Hemalatha
Topic: "Raganga Ragams as handled by Muthuswamy Dikshitar"

Time: 6:45 pm
Venue: DoMS Hall / HSB 133 (refer to the hindu on the day of programme)

This series is sponsored by the 'Class of 1978'

Monthly Programme for March 2008

March 12th 6:45pm
Smt. Suguna Varadachari & Party - vocal concert.

All are welcome
Membership and other info available at concert venue and http://musicclub.iitm.ac.in/

bharath

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 23 Feb 2008, 00:03

Bharath

What a schedule! Will these lec-dems be recorded?

-Ramakriya

jayabharathy · Post by **jayabharathy** » 23 Feb 2008, 03:30

Hi Rama!

Iam bharathy. New to this community. I couldnt find the option "Post" to post the questions. Could u pls help in this?

Regards,
bharathy

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 Feb 2008, 11:59

rbharath wrote:March 7th

Dr R Hemalatha
Topic: "Raganga Ragams as handled by Muthuswamy Dikshitar"

What does raganga rAgam mean, i dont get it?? Dont tell me please come to lecdem to get raganaga

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 23 Feb 2008, 20:43

Good initiative Bharath. Let's see if I can make it to some of them...

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 24 Feb 2008, 03:55

Rajesh:

I think raganga ragams refer to a family of related ragams. The relationship is through sharing certain common attributes. The shared attributes are more on the raga characteristics including rasa, gamakas and prayogas than the swarasthanams. In that sense, you can think of them as the 'semantic counter part' to the melakartha system of classification.

This is my understanding which may be wrong. So wholesale corrections are welcome.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 26 Feb 2008, 10:07

MD calls all his mELa rAgams as rAgAnga rAgams. They are the subject of Dr. Hemalatha's programme.

ramakriya, i dont know if we will be able to record it. if artist allow, then we might record and share. no assurances.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 03 Mar 2008, 21:43

The venue for the Lecture series is DoMS 101. It is a hall in the ground floor of the Dept of Management Studies.

The route to the Dept of Management Studies is fairly straight forward from any of the gates of the campus. Even if somebody misses the place as Dept of Management Studies, they should definitely be able to understand the expression DoMS.

Sathej · Post by **Sathej** » 04 Mar 2008, 20:15

Nice line up

Sathej

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 12 Mar 2008, 10:24

rbharath wrote:Monthly Programme for March 2008

March 12th 6:45pm
Smt. Suguna Varadachari & Party - vocal concert.

The concert of Smt Suguna Varadachari is postponed to a later date.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 18 Mar 2008, 22:48

rbharath wrote:
rbharath wrote:Monthly Programme for March 2008

March 12th 6:45pm
Smt. Suguna Varadachari & Party - vocal concert.
The concert of Smt Suguna Varadachari is postponed to a later date.

The concert of Smt Suguna Varadachari is scheduled for the 9th April 2008 at 6:45pm.

this is for the information of those interested.

Music Club IIT Madras is having a vocal concert by Sri V Annaswamy & Party on the 26th March 2008 at 6:45 pm.

All are welcome.

sindhu · Post by **sindhu** » 26 Mar 2008, 16:01

Who all are attending today's programme at IIT, Madras? I may not be able to attend - self being out of station.

sindhu · Post by **sindhu** » 27 Mar 2008, 11:07

I am planning to attend Smt. Sugana's concert on 09/04.

Meantime, anybody attended y'day concert and feedback. The artist seems to be unpopular.

I would request someone to guide me the way to reach IIT, Madras for concerts.

sindhu · Post by **sindhu** » 28 Mar 2008, 11:40

Mr. Bharath,

Can you please give exact location of IIT, Madras and how to reach there? I want to hear Mrs. Suguna's concert next month.

Thanks in advance.

sb

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 28 Mar 2008, 11:51

Sri Annaswamy's concert was filled with not-so-popular kritis and he sang with a lot of enthusiasm and energy braving an absolutely un-cooperative voice. I will try to post a detailed list, when time permits.

About the location of IIT Madras, Our campus is located on Sardar Patel Road, which connects Adyar and Guindy. There are many MTC buses which ply on Sardar Patel Road and there is Bus Stop right in front of our main gates. The nearest sub-urban railway station is Kasthurba Nagar on MRTS (from where you can walk down to our gate) or Guindy on the Beach-Tambaram line (from where you could take a bus or auto to reach our campus). Depending on from where you would want to reach campus, i can give you specific directions to reach campus with details like bus and train routes etc.

vignesh.ishwar · Post by **vignesh.ishwar** » 28 Mar 2008, 15:01

has someone recorded prof S.R.Janakiramans lec dem??....

Karnaticfan · Post by **Karnaticfan** » 29 Mar 2008, 17:44

= Sri Annaswamy's concert was filled with not-so-popular kritis and he sang with a lot of enthusiasm and energy braving an absolutely un-cooperative voice. I will try to post a detailed list, when time permits. =

Sri Bharat,

From a known friend who attended the concert I understand that on that particular day the artist's voice was very good and he could easily transverse upper octave upto Ni. Taste may differ.

I also gather that Sri Annaswamy sang a grand Bhairavi lasting upto 20 minutes by himself, followed by SS excellent swarajathi as main, ably supported by the accompanists.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 01 Apr 2008, 11:26

Karnatic fan, it was my feeling that his voice was a little strained. i could be wrong.

vignesh.ishwar, the music club does not record any of the programmes.

The concert of Smt Suguna Varadachari is scheduled for the 9th April 2008 at 6:45pm.

The concert of Smt Suguna Varadachari on 9th April will start by 7 pm and the accompanists are Smt Padma Shankar on the fiddle and Kallidaikurichi Sri Sivakumar on the mrudangam

Karnaticfan · Post by **Karnaticfan** » 01 Apr 2008, 13:35

Sorry to say Mr.Bharat that first you said it was 'an absolutely un-cooperative voice'

and now you say that 'it was (your) feeling that his voice was a little strained. (you)could be wrong' .

It only reminds me the old saying 'PEN is MIGHTIER than a SWORD'.

I have no connection with the artist any way but felt an unknown/unpopular artists like him get a different fate when correct judgement is not given. Especially the voice judgement has to be right, I feel. Poor guy !!!

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 01 Apr 2008, 13:55

Hello Karnaticfan,

There is no need to get so agitated . Cool down.

There was nothing wrong in what Bharat had said. I would say that he has infact praised Sri Annaswamy by saying that he had sung well inspite of an uncooperative voice. And Bharat has also promised a detailed review and so lets wait for that.

Only champions can have a bad day and still win

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 01 Apr 2008, 14:35

Karnaticfan, i dont see any of my comments about Sri Annaswamy's concert contridicting. Whatever i write, is what i felt or understand, i think that goes without saying. i can not write and should not write, what somebody else feels..

Karnaticfan · Post by **Karnaticfan** » 01 Apr 2008, 15:56

Bharat, it is nice to learn that you write 'what you feel only'.

I am also learning here that both english sentences (1) an absolute uncooperative voice and (2) voice was a little strained....
- carry ONE AND THE SAME MEANING- Thanks for that.

My point was while you were somewhat confident in # 15 whereas in # 18 you were not so ... and YOU SAID IT lol.

cienu - I am a very cool person !!!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Apr 2008, 21:00

"Cienu, I am a very cool person", you say.
That is cool, Karnaticfan.
I can also say this (because I feel that way?) that Cienu is cool too, in his own way, and Bharath too

Karnaticfan · Post by **Karnaticfan** » 02 Apr 2008, 09:36

neither we are burning nor any 'burning issue' is here and everyone is cool.

mmm - in my earlier response, that is why I had put 3 exclamatory marks (!!!) to cover ABC mainly... one for A (arasi); for B (bharat) and for C (cienu)....

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Apr 2008, 09:55

Cool!!!

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 02 Apr 2008, 10:14

kf, it is not a matter of confidence. i had toned down on purpose. I dont wish to argue more or give any more of my comments about this concert. let me not boost or destroy what people think about me or others...

108talas · Post by **108talas** » 02 Apr 2008, 13:37

All ends well that does end well.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 03 Apr 2008, 21:12

Here are the links to the lec-dems in IITM:

http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... tmaa78_08/

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 09 Apr 2008, 10:23

rbharath wrote:The concert of Smt Suguna Varadachari on 9th April will start by 7 pm and the accompanists are Smt Padma Shankar on the fiddle and Kallidaikurichi Sri Sivakumar on the mrudangam

a reminder for today's concert by Smt Suguna Varadachari. The venue is Dept of Mgmt Studies Hall.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:38

Bharath, right on! After all, rasikAs reviewers like you have the welfare of CM at heart.
You are not professionals, like the ones who write for the newspapers (not all of them proficient). The difference between them and our own reviewers is this. Those who get paid for their reviews shape the tastes of the general public--which means, they can influence future rasikAs in a negative way too. Their prejudices will be accepted as the norm by some.
It is different with rasikAs reviewers. Song lists, reports and reviews are helpful for other rasikAs. Negative comments which are done with decorum have their place too. We are lovers of music, after all. When said with objectivity, as is the case here at rasikAs, it is fine.
A highly self-promoting or kith and kin promoting review is always doused down by objective rasikAs. Nor can you stop the reviewers when they are elated by a performance.
We need the reviews--for developing our sense for good listening. Song lists to learn of the songs we are not aware of or have forgotten. Our reviews help us in finding new talent and to follow their course and that of established performers too.
Yes, Bharath. More reviews please...

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 10 Apr 2008, 11:12

arasi, while it is true that we do our reports/articles/reviews with a personal flavour and without bias, usually, to the best of our competence. we do land up in troubles, with kith and kin of the artists making us miserable for some comments we make. one even feels one should stop writing about concerts, at some occasions. however, one keeps writing, for one is free to be vocal about what one feels.

Karnaticfan · Post by **Karnaticfan** » 10 Apr 2008, 13:55

Dear bharat & arasi,

I am getting what you both are trying to target and am really hurt. I have already told that I have no relation with the particular artist being discussed. To support or unsupport any artist is not going to gain me any way.

I have more than 50 years of hearing very good music including yesteryear stalwarts and I was fortunate enough to interact with them. And to say that people like me make you all miserable, is too much. I have been trying to contribute to this site with whatever knowledge I have.

This would only mean, knowledgable persons like me can not voice anything as such. What others say, that is final. I can not any more stay here. Let whims and fancies of some vested people remain here, I have no objection. Thanks and Good bye.

Pl do not try to catch me thru email.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 10 Apr 2008, 14:36

Oh, for goodness sake, what a fuss!

KF was the one making the fuss in the first place, now he professes to be hurt and goes off in a huff.

So be it.

But if he wants to simply forget all this, mostly probably misunderstanding, then let him forget the whole thing and return. I'm sure everybody else will be happy to forget it too.

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 10 Apr 2008, 16:28

KF,

As I have already mentioned in an earlier post , there is no need for you to take it as a personal affront.

Secondly while Bharat was present at the concert , you were not. What you heard from a source could be subjective too .

And lastly this matter is too trivial to leave the forum.You are always welcome to join back whenever you feel like.

beginner · Post by **beginner** » 10 Apr 2008, 17:34

Earlier, KF was trying to defend the artist, considering the non-popularity of the artist. Today only, he has put his feelings about himself. In a nutshell, these are very bad developments for the site.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 11 Apr 2008, 21:52

KF, i am sorry that my post made you interpret that way. That reply of mine to arasi was in no way related to our earlier discussions on this thread. I am not telling this for the sake of it, but i am being true to this statement. I dint mean to hurt you at all. my sincere apologies for it.

The reply to arasi, was more towards people who pounce on us who write here, asking questions like "how can u write like that about XYZ?", "how can you not like that?" and things like "it is a penance for some of the artists, you cant find fault with them" etc etc...

as of date, i find discussions here far more matured and healthy and not nasty at all.

once again, my apologies for hurting you.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 11 Apr 2008, 22:37

KF,
My, I did not have anything personal to say against you! Nor did Bharath. You may have more knowledge than most of us here (I mean it as a compliment). I don't deny that. We coexist here and thrive, because it does not matter if one is a beginner or a stalwart in rasikAhood. The truth is, we are all here to learn from each other.
There are times when we learn a thing or two from newbies as well.
I am sorry if (unintentionally) I hurt your feelings. My comments were all about how we need reviews and how nice it is that our reviewers come in many varieties.
I would also like you to read what a veteran like Mannargudi Easwaran has said (in his yesterday's post). It is all about learning and enhancing our appreciation of music, no matter how high or low we are on the rasikA pyramid.
As with patriotic fervor, the feeling of 'being one in spirit' is what it is...