Dharmavathi

psychedelika · Post by **psychedelika** » 22 Jul 2005, 21:02

Hello everyone!

Wondering if any of you would be kind enough to post some information about the Dharmavathi ragam regarding such aspects as whether there is a specific time of day it is to be sung, what mood does it evoke, and if there are any interesting stories about this ragam (such as it being the main ragam for compositions worshipping any particular deity, or whether it was dear to any of our legendary musicians).

I would really appreciate your insight, thanks!

sangeetha1234 · Post by **sangeetha1234** » 22 Nov 2005, 23:04

Dharmavati is a very beautiful ragam which can be sung at any time of the day acc to SSP. But I find it very pleasent to sing in the evenings before the sunset, after 5.00 Pm. Yes, it evokes Bhakti. But , I think it is a flexible ragam We can bring in differnt moods, even anger!!!.
Dikshithar's Ramachandrasya Daasoham and Parandamavathijayati
Bhajana Seya Rada by Mysore Vasudevacharya are the most famous(I think so)

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 26 Jan 2006, 09:49

59th mela.
Aro s r(chatu) g(sadharana) m(prati) p d(chatu) n(kakali)
Ava opp
If you substitute antara gandhara for sadharana,you will get kalyani
Bhajana seya is the popular composition
Ranjani is a janya.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Jan 2006, 10:53

I thought I would post some tracks that helped me undertand a liitle bit (VERY little, I have to 'fess up) about this rAgam:
Manakkal's:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11848184/sur ... I.mp3.html
T. M. T.s:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11848456/par ... i.mp3.html
Ravi

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 03 Mar 2006, 12:47

Trust all of you have not missed the Dharmavathi RTP posted by Coolkarni under the Lalgudi thread. In one of the LPs, TNS has rendered a RTP of this raag. Similarly, L Subramaniam has done that. These two are commercial recordings.

There is a thin line of distinction between Dharmavathi and Madhuvanthi. "Nanda Nee En Nila" sung by SPB and tuned by Dakshinamurthy is a beautiful piece on Madhuvanthi.

Kaumaaram

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 03 Mar 2006, 14:40

Isnt madhuvanthi HM equivalent of Dharmavathi?
There is another madhuvanthi which is janya of Dharmavathi
Correct me if Iam wrong...
Here is the link for an RTP by teh queen of CM M.S. Subbulakshmi
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~mss/

vrbadri · Post by **vrbadri** » 03 Mar 2006, 22:54

Kiran,
In my opinion, carnatic Madhuvanti is the same as Hind. Madhuvanti. Their scales are both N3 S G2 M2 P N3 S' S' N3 D2 P M2 G2 R2 S. However, I do agree that people often mistake one for another! However, there is no scalewise equivalent of Dharmavati in HM. The proximity of CM Dharmavati and HM Madhuvanti is exploited in Many jugalbandhis. For more information on HM Madhuvanti (aka Ambika) refer

http://www.sawf.org/bin/tips.dll/gettip ... ors&arch=1

(or google: sawf multani)

To hear a sample of Madhuvanti svarams:

go to:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/q4m ... As1NMvHdW/
and click the pallavi: Tirupati vEGkaTaramaNa @ 9:41 Madhuvanti begins!

-vrbadri.

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 03 Mar 2006, 23:06

Thanks for the info....

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Mar 2006, 09:17

I have put up a madhuvanthi clip (of balsara-kalyani roy) on the Hindusthani thread.

Here is another AMAZING track !
Unfortunately we only have the partial track .But the silver lining is that the best part has been captured here .
Convinces me that a vocal duet of CM-HM is best achieved with RTPs.

From a duet of a RTP (Madhuvanthi-Dharmavathi) by TNS-Ajoy Chakravarthy
http://rapidshare.de/files/16431049/DHA ... ANTI-1.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/16432811/DHA ... ANTI-2.mp3

nnramya · Post by **nnramya** » 26 Mar 2006, 20:13

Kulkarniji,
The second link to the TNS-Ajoy RTP is not working.
http://rapidshare.de/files/16432811/DHA ... ANTI-2.mp3

It says its been deleted.

Ramya.

Manohar · Post by **Manohar** » 10 Apr 2006, 16:47

On the topic of Dharmavati, am I correct to say that peppy song Ottagatha Kattiko from the film Gentleman, has shades of Dharmavati.

My CM knowledge is quite basic and hence this question

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 17:01

Your observation is correct Manohar. The song is in dharmavati.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Apr 2006, 09:01

It is IR's interpretation of dharmavati

kartik · Post by **kartik** » 13 Apr 2006, 06:13

CML,
It is AR Rehman's interpretation

IR's interpretation of Dharmavati is the very brillaint "Andela Ravamidhi" (my telugu is not very good-Kiran others correct me).

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 13 Apr 2006, 12:53

Yes karthik
"Andhela Ravamidhi Padamulada" is a fantastic song from a movie called Swarna Kamalam. I think I have it somewhere in my archives. I can post it if that doesnt come under a copy right issue.

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 13 Apr 2006, 14:44

IR's dharmavati piece is "EnnuLiL Engo..." sung by VJ.

Kaumaaram

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 13 Apr 2006, 20:03

Yes karthik
"Andhela Ravamidhi Padamulada" is a fantastic song from a movie called Swarna Kamalam. I think I have it somewhere in my archives. I can post it if that doesnt come under a copy right issue.

Kiran,
For movie songs, I think MIO links should suffice.
Ravi

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 22 Aug 2006, 15:41

http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~rasika/T ... mavati.mp3

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 08 Sep 2006, 16:33

http://tinyurl.com/ocvwo

gitapriya · Post by **gitapriya** » 05 Oct 2006, 06:42

Could someone be kind to repost "surapAla sannutE, ShrIyutE?" It is a HMB composition, isn't it?

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 05 Oct 2006, 11:54

gitapriya wrote:"surapAla sannutE, ShrIyutE?" It is a HMB composition, isn't it?

It is the compostion of Mysore Venkatagiri appa

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 07 Oct 2006, 07:27

gitapriya wrote:
"surapAla sannutE, ShrIyutE?" It is a HMB composition, isn't it?

It is the compostion of Mysore Venkatagiri appa

I think gitapriya is right on the composer. Refer: http://www.karnatik.com/c2145.shtml. If the audio is available we'll be able to ascertain the composer.

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 20 Oct 2006, 05:18

kiransurya wrote:Isnt madhuvanthi HM equivalent of Dharmavathi?
There is another madhuvanthi which is janya of Dharmavathi
Correct me if Iam wrong...
Here is the link for an RTP by teh queen of CM M.S. Subbulakshmi
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~mss/

thanks you buddy for the post.

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 27 Dec 2006, 14:01

kaumaaram wrote:IR's dharmavati piece is "EnnuLiL Engo..." sung by VJ.

Kaumaaram

And MSV has tuned Ammanai Azhagumigu Ammanai... TMS and VJ.

chalanata · Post by **chalanata** » 27 Dec 2006, 15:56

paranthama vathi jayathi?

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 09 Apr 2007, 18:00

Hallo , every one, May I request u to view and listen to one of my kritis , which is in Dharmavathy. glorifying the diety Goddess Brahannayaki of THIRUPAAPULIUR(cuddalore)
Pallavi "JAYAJAYA SHRI BRUHANNAYAKI"
HAYAGREEVA KURANAA RASAMUKHI(Jaya jaya)
.This was composed at the request of the (CM) legendary (late) Volety Venkateshwarulu garu My renderings and lyrics are posted in www.Karnatik.com
Ramaraj

Ragjay · Post by **Ragjay** » 24 Aug 2007, 20:16

Hi I heard a wonderful RTP Played by Prof TNk in one of his concerts at IFAS. It was a brilliant piece. BFN Raghavan

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 04 Sep 2007, 07:32

rshankar wrote:I thought I would post some tracks that helped me undertand a liitle bit (VERY little, I have to 'fess up) about this rAgam:
Manakkal's:
http://rapidshare.de/files/11848184/sur ... I.mp3.html
Ravi

Could you be kind to reupload this song? I think its by vengkaTagiriyappa and not HMB although the notation is printed in the book of the latter's compositions.

"mangAmbudhi hanumantA" and the pallavi by TNS (pAliMcu bangAru kAmAkshi) are my favorites in this rAga.

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 10 Apr 2008, 12:57

does this raaga have some raaga lakshanam . or is it more of a light raaga?

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 14 Apr 2008, 08:18

does someone have the MSS dharmavati RTP

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 14 Apr 2008, 08:19

sangeethamshare rtp link does not seem to work

matterwaves · Post by **matterwaves** » 14 Apr 2008, 19:18

ganesh_mourthy wrote:sangeethamshare rtp link does not seem to work

Ganesh,
Try Raju Asokan's page. I downloaded it just yesterday.

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 28 Apr 2008, 22:24

dear matterwaves. where is the rtp link in raju asokan's page. i could not find. could you help me. can you give me the appropriate link .

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 28 Apr 2008, 22:44

http://www.sendspace.com/file/o9ch22

MSS RTP

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 29 Apr 2008, 02:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Yp-2OKqxQ

Here is a nice duet HM-CM

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 29 Apr 2008, 09:38

suji ram . that is a nice video. but who are they . ? both seem new????

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 29 Apr 2008, 10:56

ganesh_mourthy wrote:suji ram . that is a nice video. but who are they . ? both seem new????

the CM artist is Manasi Prasad I think...the HM one I don't know. Both thier voices are sweet.
There is another video by the same person where there is swaraprasthara part too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56eQslzpxvg&feature=user

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 29 Apr 2008, 11:07

The video artistes are the Karnataka artistes Manasi Prasad and Smitha Bellur featured at the Bharat Sangeet Utsav 2008.

Manasi is a disciple of RK Padmanabha and Smitha a disciple of Pt Arjunsa Nakod. The latter has a web page at www.smitabellur.com

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 29 Apr 2008, 11:24

Thanks Mohan
Interesting to read about Smita adn her music

Sathej · Post by **Sathej** » 29 Apr 2008, 23:03

Have heard a nice RTP in Dharmavathi by TNS. Also remember somebody else singing in recent times. Forget who it was, though!
Sathej

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Apr 2008, 04:14

Mysore Nagaraj and Manjunath once played a beautiful Dharmavati...

rajeeram · Post by **rajeeram** » 30 Apr 2008, 08:57

There's a nice Ambujam Krishna composition, Ododi Vanden Kanna..

Here's Gayathri Girish's rendition of the same.

http://sangeethamshare.org/svasu/364-Sm ... avathi.mp3

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 30 Apr 2008, 09:28

thanks for posting the song by GayatriGirish,rendered beautifully preceded by a sweet alapana. gobilalitha

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 30 Apr 2008, 10:29

listen to this awesome jugalbandhi instrument by mandolin srinivasa adn ,,,,Alla khan.

A real captivating piece. This is where I felt y cannot we adopt sarangi .

Dharmavati --- sarangi --- mandolin --- wah, i listen to this often.

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/zqb ... As1NMvHdW/

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 30 Apr 2008, 10:30

the beauty of dharmavati has to be slowly unfolded like in the above piece. a succinct song mars its beauty, me thinks.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 01 May 2008, 23:55

I heard 2 Dharmavathis by Hyd Bros over the last year...both were brilliant and completely different from each other...but an MIL TNS recording is my favourite. In my experience the raga can become a little boring if not handled well...HM Madhuvanti (not exactly similar but shares the scale) OTOH is always appealing..

pgaiyar · Post by **pgaiyar** » 02 May 2008, 07:02

To : Mr. Vijay

Dear Sir:

I fully agree. That recording I had in tape form but lost now. Can you upload the RTP Palinchu bangaru kamakshi if you have please?.

Regards

Guru

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 02 May 2008, 23:52

Sorry sir I have it only on tape...

pgaiyar · Post by **pgaiyar** » 03 May 2008, 07:39

To : Mr. Vijay

Thanks. Unfortunately there is no MIL CD release of this TNS RTP in Dharmavathi, 'Palinchu bangaru' to my knowledge. Please upload when you convert. God bless you.

Regards

Guru

braindrain · Post by **braindrain** » 03 May 2008, 11:23

vijay wrote:I heard 2 Dharmavathis by Hyd Bros over the last year...both were brilliant and ..

..and there was one in the last week fort school concert of Hyderabad Brothers. Needless to say, it was brilliant too..

Infact, this has been a dharmavathi season at Fort School ? Atleast 3 elaborate rendering I witnessed. Yesudas ( Enanitu mechisuvEnO ), Sri N Ramani ( bhajanasEya ) and Hyd Brothers ( parandhAmavathi jayati)..