Dr. Shrikaanth K Murthy

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:50

drshrikaanth Posted: 30 Mar 2006 08:53 pm

Thanks a lot mummy. That was indeed a great gift. hemba naNDhA vandu rANdu.

Suji ram- your gift was a bonus. You have played the kRti well. As mentioned earlier, gamakas are your strongpoint. Your grip on tALa appears to be much better in this kRti than earlier ones. Practice is the key.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:52

cmlover Posted: 30 Mar 2006 09:00 pm

hemba naNDhA vandu rANdu.

Pl translate! I like to learn that expression!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:53

drshrikaanth Posted: 30 Mar 2006 09:14 pm

hemba- very much(tumba, niramba, miga)
naNDHA- nicely(cennAgi, nanRAga)
vandu rAndu- has come out(vanduLLadu)

"It has come out very well indeed".

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:54

cmlover Posted: 30 Mar 2006 09:31 pm

Thanks
I am sure this is sankEti. Sounds very close to our TN brahmin colloquial
'romBha nannA vandhirukku'

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:57

Suji Ram Posted: 30 Mar 2006 09:48 pm

Suji ram- your gift was a bonus. You have played the kRti well. As mentioned earlier, gamakas are your strongpoint. Your grip on tALa appears to be much better in this kRti than earlier ones. Practice is the key.

Thanks DRS for your compliment!

Thanks cmlover for your suggestion...will try

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:58

coolkarni Posted: 31 Mar 2006 03:14 am

alapana by TNS

http://rapidshare.de/files/16835811/05- ... m.mp3.html

Moderator.. I have put this up since this IS THE ONLY TRACK AVAILABLE ANYWHERE IN THIS RAGA.AT LEAST WITH ME.
And since it was sung in a home at chromepet way back in 1984, the educative value of this track should get this qualified for posting here.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:00

cmlover Posted: 31 Mar 2006 03:22 am

Ha Ha DRS!

Now you are trapped. You have to get to kOkilAravaM ASAP. Let us hear DRS on this rare raga!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:01

kiransurya Posted: 31 Mar 2006 10:23 am

CML/DRS/kulkarni/SrKris

I have a recording of Kodandaramam Anisam-Kokilaravam by TNS, continuation to Kulkarni`s clip. Am I allowed to post it? (Iam sure its not a commercial recording..)

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:02

cmlover Posted: 31 Mar 2006 06:35 pm

This is totally an educational topic. It cannot survive without demos and citations. I see no harm in posting a clip. At any rate post it at the google site and let us know. If anybody claims it to be commercial let him alert the moderator. I hate it if Rasikas cannot learn freely due to silly restrictions!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:04

drshrikaanth
Posted: 31 Mar 2006 10:17 pm

You guys dont give me much choice do you! Sigh!

So here we have, "rAma unkOkilla" in kOkilArava, rUpaka.

http://rapidshare.de/files/16899208/rAm ... y.wma.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:05

cmlover Posted: 01 Apr 2006 01:42 am

Thanks Kiran!

What a lovely ragam to welcome spring!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:07

kartik Posted: 01 Apr 2006 03:15 am

Are there any RTP's in Kokilaravam/Kokilapriya?I heard that TNS rendered one in 2003 season.Would also like to warn

anyone who intend to post the Hyderabad bros RTP in MA in advance,since it is commercially available.

My father says that TN Rajarattinam Pillai used to render a detailed Kokilapriya.Does a recording of the same exist?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:08

coolkarni Posted: 01 Apr 2006 03:33 am

Karthik.
Do you really have to keep warning with bold letters??.

I once had an occasion to visit my Associate Company in rajkot within a few months of the Earthquake .
As I was climbing up the stairs , I noticed that some construction was about to commence for the day and by the time I reached the First floor I heard Some vibrating mechanism start all of a sudden , with a noise.
In hardly a few seconds , two of staff working there had jumped off the balcony-fearing another quake- and one broke his leg.Hilarious , it may seem .But there was no better way for one to get an idea of the impact of the quake on their lives .
If you keep warning me with bold letters , some day you may have to see me in hospital .I live in the first floor.You know that well enough

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:09

kartik Posted: 01 Apr 2006 03:49 am

Hahahaha LOL

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:11

drshrikaanth Posted: 01 Apr 2006 11:44 am

mAtu for rAma unkOkilla
rAga- kOkilArava; rUpaka tALa

rAma unkOkillA | ravayatthu^nayU kanikaru ||P||

EmAripiyarade undE | heccaLamA SrIkANtu ||AP||

ambA kausalya maruga | ahali aDavikaDivaccA |
tambiyAnu vandAka | tala mElE kerapa vaccA |
hemba ASa cumanda heNNinde mUka araviccA |
nambi vanda hAtEvheya naTTaDaviku^ kaLuhiccA ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:12

drshrikaanthPosted: 01 Apr 2006 11:45 am

Thanks coolkarni & Kiran

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:14

venkatpvPosted: 01 Apr 2006 02:24 pm

i posted TRS' Kokilaravam alapana followed by Kodandaramam some months back... am i allowed to post it?? obviously its not a commercial recording!!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:15

drshrikaanth Posted: 01 Apr 2006 02:52 pm

venkat
Go ahead and post it. If anyone objects with a good reason, we can delete it.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:16

venkatpv Posted: 01 Apr 2006 03:12 pm

here goes...

TRS-VVS-Kamalakar Rao
http://rapidshare.de/files/7825554/10a- ... a.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/7825675/10b- ... m.mp3.html

very nice alapana by TRS and VVS

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:17

cmlover Posted: 01 Apr 2006 06:12 pm

kartik

very strangely TRS's aalaapana brings back the sweet memories of TNR's elaborations that I have heard over 60 years ago (no chance of a recording!)

DRS

Meaning please (and then of course the notations!) to fully enjoy this piece!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:21

drshrikaanth Posted: 01 Apr 2006 06:18 pm

---DRS

Meaning please (and then of course the notations!) to fully enjoy this piece!

First comments from others. Only then wil I move forward. Guys, remember this is a virtual medium and I cannot see how you react on listening to my rendering in your own privacy and secrecy. I need feedback. There is no joy in me simply posting.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:22

cmlover Posted: 01 Apr 2006 06:26 pm

Agreed 100%. But the meaning enhances the listening pleasure!
sAhitya beauty is linked to sangIta beauty!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:23

cmlover Posted: 01 Apr 2006 06:51 pm

Let us wait for the feedback from our Rasikas. But I have to say this. As soon as I heard 'amba kausalya maruga' I just thought what a nice spot for svarkalpana and later you exactly did that. So you are quite predictable .

Again the svara kalpana is 'superb' (and I do have a question which I will ask during the discussion of the raga). Now let me layback and listen to what others say and just
hemba guess paNNarEn (I mean the meaning!)

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:25

drshrikaanth Posted: 01 Apr 2006 06:56 pm

hemba guess paNNarEn (I mean the meaning!)

hembA guess paNNAN rANi.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:26

kiransurya Posted: 01 Apr 2006 10:16 pm

DRS
Meaning of the krithi please..
As for the manodharma is concerned(you did a great job.. Iam not that experienced to comment on them, which I will leave for elders like CML

) I need the meaning as I cant understand the language...

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:27

rshankar Posted: 01 Apr 2006 10:24 pm

DRS,
A beautiful rAgam: I had not heard it before. Does kOkilAvaram mean the song of the cuckoo? A beautiful way to welcome spring and help us in Indiana when we join the rest of the east coast in springing ahead with our clocks (after many years, the state of Indiana, which did not observe DST, is now moving to EST, and the issue is causing major problems with our calendars..it is causing more havoc than Y2K!)

Did not undertsnad much of the song, but recognized some contexual clues.
My contexual meanings:
ambA kausalyA: mother kausalya?
tambiyAnu: younger brother (Lakshman)?
hemba ASa cumanda heNNIndE: a woman carrying lots of love? (Sita)?

Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:28

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 02:28 am

Let me narrate a small story

Once upon a time, there was this blind man who made garlands. He only used seven varieties of flowers. One was a white lotus that he always used. You see, lotus is the most exquisite flower. It is beautiful, exotic, auspicious and also symbolic of this universe. It was a flower that his mother loved. It reminded him of her, so much so that to him, it was his mother herself. Then there was the red lily also that he frequently used. Now this lily so beautifuly complemented the white lotus. The other five blooms, they came in some different shades.

Now this man was very skilled at making garlands. He could make even the most disparate flowers blend so beautifully and create an exquisitely patterned beautiful garland. He had learnt this art from other master craftsmen by God`s grace. He made them all for his mother. Then one day he thought, let me show these garlands to others as well. I love them and enjoy them. I know my mother loves them even if though she has not told me in so many words. But it would be selfish not to share them with others. Let them enjoy the beauty too. And he also thought, what pleasure it would give me to hear them appreciate my handiwork.

So he hesitantly started showing the various garlands he made, one at a time, to others. Many people came to see these garlands. There were some close to him, who held his hand and squeezed it silently in appreciation. There was another elderly gentleman who would not only express his joy without fail, but also understand the art and skill behind the making of these garlands. He would also give valuable suggestions to the garland maker at times. There were some others who expressed themselves sometimes but not at others. Some would do so upon prompting by others. A couple took pictures of the same, thanked him for the gift, and tried painting it.

But the vast majority who came just remained silent. Many there were for there was a scurry of footsteps every time he showed a new garland he had made. Much more than the voices and hand-squeezes could account for. Not a word uttered. Nor so much as a sharp intake of breath. Nor even the gentlest touch. Now the man could not see what their expressions were when they saw the garlands. For he was blind you see, which others so easily forgot, not being in the position themselves. Neither prompting nor goading would make them respond.

A myriad thoughts could have gone though the minds of these silent lot. But the garland maker had no way of finding this out, for he was blind you see. Now the man grew sad at this and thought;- I wanted to share this with others so they would enjoy it and in turn give me some joy too. But that is not how it turned out to be. He then thought, well I make these garlands because I love to. I cannot but make them. And I know my mother loves them. So why show them to others at all. And then he stopped showing them to others and continued to make them for his own joy and ccontentment.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:29

coolkarni Posted: 02 Apr 2006 03:04 am

epilogue

The Garland maker felt that the reason could probably be that most admirers have a stumbling block.
Somewhere in their process of appreciation , there could be a deep
seated voice which says
" Hey here is something I love but I cannot explain why .
Isnt it too difficult .
Like juggling so many balls at the same time.
Take for instance the other garland maker , who uses a different flower for the morning , for the afternoon,for the night.
He even labels them as Flower of the Kings and the King of Flowers while sending it to the Darbar(i)
it is so two dimensional -so easy to grasp.
or to let go.
But this Garland making , it is so complex.

may be if he could show us the flowers , the threads , the types of knots ... in more detail.
wonder if that is what happens in a LECDEM ??

maybe there is still hope for the likes of us.!!!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:31

vasanthakokilam Posted: 02 Apr 2006 03:23 am

DRS: Nice story and the message is gotten. All I am thinking now is what we can do so you will continue to show us the beautiful garlands you make. And it is easy... don't be silent spectators.....a nice bargain indeed.

On keeping our end of the bargain of not being silent spectators... I would like to do full justice to the effort and creativity you have put in there by dedicating some quality time listening to it. So, I do not get to it right away. ( I am just getting to rakkaNe gaida kumArage- saurasEna ).
Since you compose and sing in rare ragas there is a lot to absorb and enjoy.

Here are my thoughts and observations on your excellent kOkilARava composition and singing...

I listened to both you and TNS. My first impression was, 'I sense Thodi here and there but then Thodi disappears and something else emerges.' I guess some of the common prayogams with Thodi and the similar gandhara gamakam provide the correlation with Thodi but then in the uttaranga you have managed to bring out this raga's separation from Todi.

Your kalpanaswarams were brisk, bold and beautiful. I sensed the raga lakshanams from the alapana and the kalpanaswarams and then on second listening to the krithi, I got more of the raga identity. I guess that is the cyclical process one goes through to 'get' the raga.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:33

cmlover Posted: 02 Apr 2006 07:03 am

The story is incomplete.

Though blind, the garland-maker used to have dreams. of course he could see everything in those dreams. The constant dream that he used to have was when he would be taking the garland to the Lord Krishna temple and adorn the God with his garland. In his dream he even saw the Lord smile visibly when he decorated him with his beautiful garland. Once he started in real life showing off his garlands for appreciation to others the dreams suddenly stopped. But then he did not mind since he was preoccupied with the appreciation of others and focussed his attention on pleasing them with his skills. He knew he had made some excellent garlands but the appreciations were seldom vocal. He even explained to them the subtle elements of beauty but it was too much for many to appreciate the subtle points since they were quite happy with the garlands already available in the Market. By this time the dreams had completely stopped but he never paid any attention. As he started losing heart he started yearning for the return of the dreams which had brought him peace and serenity earlier. In his heart he started pleading with the Lord to come back to him. Before long he had a vision. The Lord appeared in full glory and he plaintively asked

'My Lord where are the beautiful Garlands that I made for you! They were the best! Don't you love them any more?'

The Lord smiled and told him

'My son! You were earlier making the garlands for me and I appreciated them immensely. But when you started making them for the appreciation of others then they were not meant for me and I stopped wearing them. And you never realized how much I appreciated your Garlands. Now I have come to you because I am missing your garlands. Come back to me!'.

As the man snapped out of the vision he heard his mother reciting her daily Gita verses. She was chanting loudly:

"karmaNyEvAdhikArastE mA phalEShu kadAcana|
mA karmaphalahEturbhUH, mA tE sa^NgO'stvakarmaNi||"

He knew it was the Lord speaking to him through his mother. With the dawn of wisdom he started making garlands only with the thought of Lord in his mind. His garlands were unusually fragant and spectators started coming in hordes to look at them and started showering appreciations. Of course the elderly gentleman was also in the crowd reiterating that all along he knew that he will be appreciated by the world.Even a big entrpreneur approched him and offered him a lot of money to make garlands to be sold for profit at the Market. Even the Academicians approched him to offer special honours and titles. The Garland-Man brushed them off stating that he was not interested in money or fame or even their appreciation. For he said that now knows:

"karmaNyEvAdhikArastE mA phalEShu kadAcana|
mA karmaphalahEturbhUH, mA tE sa^NgO'stvakarmaNi||"

and that was the only reason he was making the garlands. The dreams returned. But then he never was worried or overjoyed because he knew that the vision was always in his heart and the garlands were indeed made by the Lord Himself and that he was just a tool in His hands!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:34

srinidhi Posted: 02 Apr 2006 10:04 am

DRS sir,

The story continues....

The garland maker stopped showing his garlands to everyone and made them only for his personal pleasure. Many years passed and one day news came to him that a huge garland made by him was especially chosen to adorn the local diety on the concluding day of the ongoing festival He was surprised since,he had not, in the recent past publicly displayed his floral works. How did it get to the market. he denied that it was his. But his characteristic stamp was evident in the garland- the white lotus, the red lily, the other five shades.

And the pattern too was one that he had created himself, long ago, in a beautifully inspired moment. He had given it a name too- Kanta swaroopa. -That which is beautiful to look. If he had not made the garland then who had?

A search was made and then a young man came forward hesitantly and admitted that it was his. The garland maker- the blind one asked - how on earth had he learnt the design which was his own creation? The young man replied that every afternoon, while coming back from school, he would be swept away by the fragrance of the myriad blooms that the garland maker used. Slowly, he was mesmerised by the skillfull way in which the garland maker would weave the blooms into a garland.

The young man continued with his voice choked " So every afternoon, after school I would sit near you watching your hands and fingers move. I would silently learn the differnt patterns. More than that I would watch you and try to imagine what was on your mind as you wove the garlands. Beacuse only a pure mind can result in a beautiful object of art.

When the blind man was taken to the temple and he felt with his fingers the garland which the young man had made, he felt immense satisfaction. Not for the praise which was being showered but the fact the his art had been trasferred to another generation and would be kept alive. The blind man heartily blessed his 'shishya'

The End

DRS sir,

If we have been silent, it certainly does not mean that we are not appreciative . In fact your knowledge of music, language shastras, etc leave us awestuck . Infact during the sangeetham days, esp the kanankadasa post, we thought you would be some grey haired 70 yr old retired proffesor. But unfortunately our knowledge does not extend to even asking intelligent questions.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:36

kiransurya Posted: 02 Apr 2006 10:44 am

DRS (Garland Maker... )

The raaga was clear when you were using prayogas like ma pa da Ni, Ni Da pa Ma may be because of the distinctive handling of Nishaadha (N3) (atleast thats what I thought...) I take it that it is the jeeva swara of the raaga. However, when you used Gaandhara it gave a hint of thodi... . Also, when you were coming down with Ma Ga Ri, it slightly(very very little) resembled Bhanumathi(4th mela in Dikshitar's system)... is that because of same Da2 Pa ma1 Ga2 Ri2 combination common to both the raagas? (I hope Iam not talking nonsense. Please dont get me wrong and correct me wherever possible )

Your Kalpanswara was very good .

Would have been good if you did a small neraval

On the whole it was a very nice, organised and a treat to our soul and ears. Iam looking forward to your elaborate Lec dem on this rare and complex raaga

Kiran

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:38

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 11:09 am

The story is incomplete.

Though blind, the garland-maker used to have dreams. of course he could see everything in those dreams. The constant dream that he used to have was when he would be taking the garland to the Lord Krishna temple and adorn the God with his garland. In his dream he even saw the Lord smile visibly when he decorated him with his beautiful garland. Once he started in real life showing off his garlands for appreciation to others the dreams suddenly stopped. But then he did not mind since he was preoccupied with the appreciation of others and focussed his attention on pleasing them with his skills. ------!

This garlandmaker NEVER made garlands for anyone other than his mother. Who is Lord kRShNa but his own mother! The garlands that he made lasted forever. And those that he showed were only those that the Lord already wore on his neck and enjoyed immensely. The others he had himself discarded dispassionately. And he never stopped having those visions and dreams.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:39

ramamrutham Posted: 02 Apr 2006 11:34 am

kaNNAre kaMDU I suMdara drUSyava
kiviyAre kELi I suswarava
manadalli harShisida A BAvava
maiyi maretu nintihenu,
maiyi maretu nintihenu,
maiyi maretu nintihenu,
hELalAre A mahadAnuBavava

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:40

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 12:23 pm

Thank you for all those responses friends. I am touched.

Word for word meanings of rAma unkOkilla
rAga- kOkilArava; rUpaka tALa

rAma- O rAma! unku^ OkillA- Why is it not there in You?
rava atthu^nayU- even an iota of;
kanikaru- compassion.

EmAripiyarade- cheating/disappointing; undE-Your;
heccaLamA- is it Your special attribute/greatness?; SrIkANtu.

ambA- mother; kausalya; maruga- grieving/pining;
ahali- having separated; aDaviku^- to the forest;
aDi vaccA- You set foot;
tambiyAnu- younger brother; vandAka- When he came;
tala mElE- on the head; kerapa vaccA- You kept Your footwear;
hemba ASa- a lot of desire; cumanda- bearing;
heNNinde- he maiden's;
mUka araviccA- You had her nose cut;
nambi vanda- who trustingly followed;
hAtEvheya- wife;
naTTaDaviku^- into the deep jungle; kaLuhiccA- You sent.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:41

kiransurya Posted: 02 Apr 2006 12:37 pm

DRS

Thank you for the meaning which makes the song more enjoyable..
BTW, what language is the krithi in Kannada/Sanketi?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:42

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 12:42 pm

This is a nindAstuti in sankEti Kiran.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:43

kiransurya Posted: 02 Apr 2006 12:47 pm

Cheers...

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:44

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 12:50 pm

Running meaning
O rAma! Why is there not even an iota of compassion in you?

O SrIkAntu! Is deceiving and disappointing your special skill?

Leaving your mother desolate and sorrowing, you separated and left for the jungle.
And when your younger brother bharata came to you, what did you do! You placed your footwear right on his head!
And when that maiden SUrpaNakhi, filled with desire, came to you, you ordered lakShmaNa and had her nose cut!
And to top it all, you even sent away your vey own wife, who so so trustingly followed your footsteps, into the deepest forest!

Hail thy greatness!!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:46

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 12:58 pm

Ravi, kiran, vk
thanks for trying your hand at the meaning and expressing your thought on the rAga. (I am not leaving out the others. Just mentioned 3 names)
Friends, this is what encourages me.

1- Comments, observations, appreciation or emotions on listening to kRti/rAga the way I have handled it.

2- Try and figure out the meaning.

3- Any observations about the rasas evoked, suitability or otherwise of the rAga for the context.

4- Observations on lyrics, use of words

5- Comments on the rAga

6- Comments or more information about context, puranik references etc

7- Anything else that comes to your mind.
Please do not wait for me to post everything. I want active particpation from you all. And please do not hesitate to some forward with your thoughts. Iam not greedy as to expect everyone to do it all the time. But I expect initiative and active participation. Nobody is going to laugh here. I talk straight but that certainly does not mean I am offended or annoyed. This is about sharing, not a one-upmanship. There is no getting "caught-out" here. Thank you again for your input.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:47

kiransurya Posted: 02 Apr 2006 01:33 pm

DRS

Thanks DRS. We will all from now on definitely express our comments
By the by, Kokilaravam for me is like a fine blend of Sokam(may be from the saadharana Gandharam) and Bhakthi..
or atleast thats what I felt from your song/Kodandaraamam anisam..

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:49

drshrikaanth Posted: 02 Apr 2006 01:38 pm

--
By the by, Kokilaravam for me is like a fine blend of Sokam(may be from the saadharana Gandharam) and Bhakthi..
or atleast thats what I felt from your song/Kodandaraamam anisam

Spot on Kiran. Check your email

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:51

rshankar Posted: 02 Apr 2006 03:52 pm

DRS,
I was correct in most of the meanings! I am batting a 100%!
Thanks for the word-to-word and running meaning...makes it clearer.
BTW, I am still amazed and struggling with the swarAkshara varNam from way back when....
You must continue to weave your garlands: somehow, having the forum members participate in your 'samarpaNam' takes it along the lines of 'chUdi koduththa shudarkodi'!
BTW, the flowers, do they indicate rAgAs, and if so, what rAgAs do the white and red lotus refer to?
Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:52

venkatpv Posted: 02 Apr 2006 03:53 pm

DRS,
i enjoyed the Kokilaravam.. and as kiran has already said, i was expecting a neraval at amba kausalya!!

whenever i got the feeling of thodi creeping in, the usage of SRM dispelled any doubts... and the gamaka on D felt different than in thodi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:53

kiransurya Posted: 02 Apr 2006 04:25 pm

DRS
May be you should do a nerval anyway..

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:55

rshankar Posted: 02 Apr 2006 11:31 pm

DRS,
I am sure you are familiar with the 'pAmalai avar padikka...'etc...
Along those lines:
'pUmAlai nIr thodukka,
andha pAmAlai yAm rasikka,
vAzhNAL nadaththuvOmE, srIkAntharE!'

So, please keep them coming.
Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:55

cmlover Posted: 03 Apr 2006 01:10 am

Many of us are garlanding the garland maker. But I think what he expects is garlanding the garland itself. Intrinsically appreciation of the garland is the highest praise that you can heap on the maker himself. Many of us find the garland too complex and require help from the maker himself about its merits. In that process perhaps we may be exposing our ignorance and we may be shy and keep quiet. In a group of committed learners like ours there is no room for 'shyness' 'ego' or even 'show offs'. Even active criticism of the garland is totally acceptable since 'to err is human'. I am not saying anything new! But let us put it into practice as otherwise if the garland maker shuts shop we will be the big losers!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:56

venkatpv Posted: 03 Apr 2006 01:31 am

DRS,
if u composed in thodi, shankarabharanam, kalyani, shri, gamakakriya etc etc...it will be easier for us to appreciate the musical worth of your compositions... bcos these are the ragas which we already understand melodically... hopefully!!

once we have reached that stage, u can take us into these more complex ragas... the ones with which we are not familiar with... just my opinion, i mean no disrespect, but it is our limitation as listeners, and in our (in)ability to appreciate never-before heard ragas..

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 01:59

cmlover Posted: 03 Apr 2006 05:30 am

Folks
DRS is nALikEraM. We have to sweat to get to him. There are many who purvey drAkShA rasam. Therein is the challenge for us. I personally like it!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Apr 2006, 02:00

drshrikaanth Posted: 04 Apr 2006 01:06 am

---BTW, the flowers, do they indicate rAgAs, and if so, what rAgAs do the white and red lotus refer to?

White lotus= ShaDja, red lily= pancama