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rajeshnat
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Post by rajeshnat »

Accompanied by sangeetha kalAnidhi Vellore rAmabadran - mridangam and possibly another upapakkavAdhyam ;) artist.

It is olympic relay time , Smt prema rangarAjan will pass her baton and also host the violin concert of vidushi Aishwarya . Can I say AishwaryA as a soon to be violin princess having learnt from a great vidwan who hails from the princely state of kerela .
Here is the website of the violinist (http://www.divinestrings.com ),

The address of Shri rangarAjan's flat where the concert would be held is
2C, Ramalakshmi Apartments
Off CP rAmaswamy Road
26, 4th Street
AbhirAmapuram
(Next to Spencers World)
ph 24997028

AbhirAmapuram a one way nightmare , I am atleast giving a direction if you are heading from TNagar/Teynampet side of madras. From any where in TTK road , you have to join CP ramAswamy road .

Where the alwarpet bridge descends from ttk road to cp ramaswamy road leave the first right which takes you to ttk road again.

Go little further straight till you hit a signal and then turn left , that is 4th street.You will find rAmalakshmi apartments (I forgot to register if it is right or left despite cool telling me that)

I am not going to drive for the fear of not knowing the latest one way :(. Let me give the pallavi line for the violinist. :)





Let us ALL BE AT 6 PM,
Let us ALL NOT GIVE ANY MORE PAIN TO :cool: karni

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Post by rajeshnat »

Kum Aishwarya a long time disciple of Prof TNKrishnan and quite recently she is also trained by Shri SRJ performed beautifully. The start was great in a rAgam with a famous varnam #1 , her bowing and nAdham was beginning to sound very pleasant .
Answer is nera nammiTi - kAnaDA - poochi

The next #2 , is generally at its best when one takes more time to bring out its charm ,her alApana and her krithi playing for the tyagarAja krithi was beautiful and very moving.
Answer is mOkshamu galadA -sAramati -T

The next #3 again had an alApanai and the krithi that followed was perhaps the most famous krithi ever released in a telegu movie that came in early 80's. I felt her kalApramAnam for this famous krithi was just not uniform.
Answer is brOchEvA revarurA -KhamAs-MV

The next #4 was in the rAgam sindhumandhAri(you guess the krithi) , she announced she picked it up from SRJ few days back . This no was very fast resembling a lot like nOttuswaras of MD.
Answer is Karuninchutakide in Sindhu Mandari

The next #5 is one of the most expressive prati madhyamA , Her start in alApanai was beautiful she bowed right at the beginning without ambiguity to a close prati cousin . The krithi a famous one from the 2nd generation composer of sadguru thyagarAja was played beautifully. This rAgam is at its best only when there is inclusion of swaras. The vidushi ended without the swara, Shri SRJ did something which I just felt I wanted to do , instruct aishwarya to play swaras for this prati rAga and she played beautifully.
Answer is marivEre -shanmughapriyA - Patnam

The main #6 was a RTP . Bharath smiled after I also smiled .The lines were in "un darisanam kidaikumo natarAjA".Her play in the rAgam was at its best when she played for few minutes on the two outer strings to give a more bass nAdham to the violin. I just felt there were few repetitions in rAga alApana.
Aishwarya told me that her guru TNK taught her in bhairavi .I have only heard kalyAni && HindOlam . The answer is bhairavi

TAnam had 4 rAgas inclusive of the main ,there was mOhanam , vandanadhArini and KAPi. Usually every tAnam will be little rAga alApanish , but surprisingly TAnam of hers was tAnamish more at the start , rest were in and out rAga alApanish .

The pallavi line and her swara rAgamAliga were excellent throughout . Her choice of rAgas in between main rAgas were sahAnA , varAli , behAg , KAnaDA and sindhubhairavi.. Overall she played RTP FOR 46 minutes non stop and was excellent..

The no #7 was a rAga that appeared already in tAna or swara rAgamAliga , not a very popular no nowadays ,I am assuming was first popularized by ariyakudi and her play was impressive .
Perhaps the most tough one vandAn vandAn - mOhanam - AK

There was a brief #8 in madhyamAvati not sure I still donot know what krithi she played.
I donot know what she played

#9is the famous thirruppugazh , she played in a rAgam that I thought it was shubhapantuvarAli. She told me that she played another rAga and not shubhapantuvarAli.
shubAli is the answer

#10 is most famous for the musician ,his name became more associated with this no ,not many know or ever care who the real composer is?.
Madurai mani note -shankarAbharanam - HMB

Shri vellore rAmabadran played appropriately throughout .At times he just moves only the finger and not even wrist but still producing a pleasant nAdham is just stunning . Aishwarya's dad Shri venkataraman gave a pretty good support in kanjirA , he spent more time guiding a to be great violinist in tAlam , his play was quite minimum . Their tani was quite low in layam content , but certainly was apt for the violin concert .

Hats off to this vidushi in her own words She keeps on thanking janakirAman and krishnan mamA, and hats off to them too. Playing for 2 hours 20 minutes non stop in violin was just very good to excellent .Our :cool: karni appeared elated. Special thanks to shri rangarAjan's family. We also had apart from SRJ, smt jayalakshmi santhanam and violinist HN Bhaskar (sishya of MSG)
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rbharath
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Post by rbharath »

It was a nice evening. got to a know a lot of new people. music, food..

it was just tooo good.


Special thanks to the Rengarajans for the dinner as well :)

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Post by cienu »

All's well that ends well ! :)

Thanks for the review Rajeshnat.

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Post by rajumds »

It was a very good concert in a wonderful setting. Special thanks for the Rengarajans for the hospitality

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

It was a lovely evening, with great hospitality and music.

Aishwarya has a great presence and confidence on stage; a great maturity. She is an expressive artist who I shall be happy to see play again (but I'm afraid I missed her concert this evening; she is playing again in Chennai on 29th). As befits a student of TNK, her music is very sweet. I really look forward to hearing it in years to come.

I'm no violinist, but I noticed how she held and moved the bow; how neither the position on the strings nor the angle changed hardly at all. I asked if, in her early lessons, very strict attention to correct technique had been enforced. She said that Sri TNK had refused to teach her until she had learnt this discipline from Western violin.

She said that she has been taught by Sri TNK that she must become a proficient solo artist before playing as an accompanist. I always though it worked the other way around; that some accompanists went forward to become soloists. However, it makes sense to me: accompanists have to be able to cope with the entirely unexpected, as in our last concert where Padma Shankar told me that she only actually knew one of the songs.

She also told me that she very much liked to wear a half-sari. See: it is the 'foreigners' that will be preserving the traditions! ;)

Sri Vellore Ramabadran was the gentle giant on stage. It was great to be able to see him playing 'in close up' in a house concert. I'm afraid that a lot of mridangists find it very hard to adjust to a small room, and can be overpowering. No suggestion of this from VR; always perfect modulation. His playing was beautiful.

Aishwarya's father on stage was something of a distraction. I do appreciate that, after I signalled to him that his very loud talam putting was off-putting that he did make an effort not to do so. Perhaps he is more used to sitting on stage, without a microphone, in a larger hall. I would rather have seen more of his kanjira playing.

He did put his point of view to me after the concert --- that Aishwarya does not yet have the confidence to play without the assistance of someone keeping tala for her, and that she would not be able to see his right hand seated as they were, so would be reliant on being able to hear it.

This sort of thing is a technical problem for artists, and one that they should find ways of solving without affecting the music or the audience. The ideal place for a talam keeper is the middle of the front row of the audience, where they can be seen by the artist without them even having to turn. The sound of a clap is course and unmusical; it has no place in among the sweetness of violin and mridangam.

Layam itself has no sound. Layam is translated into music by the musicians: did anybody ever consider a metronome a suitable instrument for the stage? What a shame any krya of talam was ever said to be 'shabda'. If talam is to be put. with sound, on the stage, then the bells of the nadaswaram parties and the natavangars should be used, then, at least, the sound will be sweet and tuned.

This is my beef, as many know, but I do believe it is important for them to consider this, to the benefit of her future concerts; it is not just Nick's usual moan. I liked Aishwarya, her music , and her father too much not to speak up on this. He must have contributed so much in so many ways that his daughter is where she is today.

If the concert was amplified, it was not noticeable. I think we had a truly acoustic concert, which means that if there was any amplification (there was one small monitor speaker that I noticed) then it was of the very best kind. Aishwarya's playing is strong, powerful even, which probably has something to do with the excellent technical discipline I mentioned earlier.

May she go from strength to greater strength. I have no doubt that she will.

I avoided the one-way hazards of TTK road and Chamiers Road, coming by Manadaveli Station and Warren Road instead. Probably a wise decision.

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Post by semmu86 »

hello al... i missed out on this... this rasikas concert when did this start and how often is this held?? is everyone invited?? am also planning to come to the next concert

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

Semmu, you have been missing out on a number of excellent concerts, mostly presented in homes and small venues. We have intimacy with the music and we also have audiences that behave very much better than many in public halls. We have a variety of musicians, nearly all selected from Cool's vast experience and knowledge, sometimes very senior, sometimes youngsters, but often those that are ot so easy to find on the usual concert schedules.

Not only do we meet each other, but we also get to meet the musicians too.

Of course they are not the only house concerts in Chennai, but house concerts by their very nature tend to be private, and of too small seating capacity to advertise publicly. I hugely appreciate the chance to enjoy music in a more intimate setting.

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ya i have surely been mising out... please do post when is the next concert..i will definitely come..
aah nick thinnk i remember you now.. was it you who came to my mrudangam arangetram in 2004 at sastri hall?? after the concert you spoke to me about the chapu which i played?? :D :lol:

i remember someone like you vaguely... was it you by the way???am uks sir's student just in case if you are confused
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Nick H
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... you are student of UKS,

Now you come to mention it, yes, I do remember! Was it as long ago as 2004? I was only here for five weeks then; now I live here.

I appreciated how tough it is to play chapu, repeatedly, fast.

I'm afraid I don't have a good memory for faces, though, but I can update that when we meet again at a concert

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Post by Nick H »

I forgot to say that you can follow the concert program in this thread -->http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5726

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thanks a lot for the reply nick... ya it was indeed in aug 2004 and it would have been a great co-incidence had i asked u this question 4 days back as my arangetram was held on 20th aug 2004 :lol:... no problem at all absolutely with you not remembering the face since i too remembered it very late as i too figured out you only now even though am in this forum from 2006 :P....

ya eagerly waiting to meet you too
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Post by sankirnam »

haha semmu's question prompted me to ask you the same thing nick.. did you come to my arangetram last year at sastri hall? I remember seeing someone in the audience who looked what I've seen of you in the various photos here.

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Post by Nick H »

Oh dear, I don't remember! Who is your teacher? I've been to a few, yes --- but these days I am far from the only non-Indian with an interest in the music. You guys probably even have foreign classmates.

I'm hoping, by the way, people will have a little more to say about Aishwarya's music!

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Post by semmu86 »

hi sankirnam.... whats your real name by the way??? because i have attended quite a few arangetrams last year... thats why

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Post by vijay »

Good to know that the show is continuing with renewed momentum....BTW the answers to Rajesh's quiz are still pending!

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

Weren't the English Note pieces written by Muthuswami Dikshitar's brother?

Inspired, of course, by those Irish musicians who brought their fiddles with them and played their folk music.

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Post by sureshvv »

Unfortunately rajesh's clues are very hazy and doubt anyone will be able to accurately guess all of them.

Anyway I am a glutton for punishment, so here goes:

#1 Sri
#2 Asaveri, Ra rama
#3: Khamas, Brochevaevarura
#5: Marivere, Shanmugapriya
#6: Kharaharapriya
#10: Jonpuri: Eppo varuvaro

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Post by semmu86 »

is #6 kalyani??? i have heard the same rtp piece in that raga.....

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Post by venkatharan »

hi

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Post by bilahari »

I doubt #6 is Kalyani even though that pallavi is commonly rendered in the raga. Two prathi madhyama's in a row would be unlikely... Also, few people play Kalyani extensively in mandra sthayi. Maybe Thodi? I'm baffled by most of the clues.

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Post by vijay »

I'll eat my best Sunday hat if item #6 turns out to be Kalyani ;-)

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Post by arasi »

Rajesh,
Vijay says it is the 'mother' of rAgams (?)--! By the way, thanks for the review.
Waiting for you to you come up with a review of the next rasikas concert...and meanwhile, of other concerts n town too, of course...

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Post by sureshvv »

I change #2 to Sugunamule, chakravaham

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Post by knrh05 »

Here's my take

#1 Viriboni Bhairavi
#2 Janakiramana SuddhaSeemantini
#3 Brochevarevarura Khamas
#4 Karuninchutakide Sindhu Mandari
#5 Needu Charanamule Simmhendramadhyamam
#6 RTP Sankarabharanam or Karaharapriya
#7 Ramanai Tharuvai Sindubhairavi
#8 Nagumomu Madhyamavathi
#9 Thiruppugazh Subhali
#10 English Note

Rajesh,
Can you give better clues (more in the lines of 3, 4, 5, 9) for the songs?

KN
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bilahari
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Post by bilahari »

Can #5 be Panthuvarali? It's about the only prathi madhyama raga I cannot imagine without a few quick rounds of swaras.

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nick H wrote:Weren't the English Note pieces written by Muthuswami Dikshitar's brother?

Inspired, of course, by those Irish musicians who brought their fiddles with them and played their folk music.
English note , I understand , is the creation of Muthiah Bhagavathar and his student Madurai Mani Iyer Popularised it
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Post by rajeshnat »

So far 2 answers of sureshvv and 3 answers of knrh05 are only right . that also means other deduced answers by both of them and bilahari are wrong.

knrh got these 3 right
#3 Brochevarevarura Khamas
#4 Karuninchutakide Sindhu Mandari
#9 Thiruppugazh Subhali

Sureshvv got these 2 right
#3: Khamas, Brochevaevarura
#5: Marivere, Shanmugapriya

Atleast you 2 guys can go back and get more answers right. I was expecting mohan to join and crack more here..
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Nick H
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English note , I understand , is the creation of Muthiah Bhagavathar
OK... I should never stick my neck out on music history.

But, I guess it is better to try :)

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Post by Suji Ram »

If we go by TNK's favorites #2 might be saramati

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Post by sramaswamy »

My guesses

#1 Ninnukori - Mohanam

#2 Mokshamu Galada - Saramathi

#6 Hindolam

Wow! The search for the phrase "un darisanam kidaikumo natarAjA" in google came up with following choices
a) Hindolam (Ranjani Gayathri - http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5004)
b) Shanmugapriya (Chembai )
c) Kalyani (O.S.Thyagarajan)
d) Gowrimanohari(Salem Sriram)

Shanmugapriya and Kalyani are ruled out. Since it was played in Mandarasthyai, my guess will be "HIndolam"

#10 Jagadjanani - Ratipatipriya (http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2484)
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Post by knrh05 »

Last attempt with current set of clues

#10 Radha sameta krishna - GNB fav

Help! Need another set of clues :)

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Post by bilahari »

Yes, more clues for the rest please!

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Post by Nick H »

Quizzes is all very well, but I do feel the focus on the musician and the concert has been lost.

But, if I'm wrong... well, don't mind me.

She's playing again in Thiruvanmiyur tonight, by the way, at 6.30. Information which is probably too late to be of any use to anyone who doesn't live just around the corner.

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Post by rajeshnat »

Suji and knrh05 have got the #2 right.
I cannot give any more clues without giving the answers. Go back to the 2nd post where I have given the answers along with the clues

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