Ananda Bhairavi

chalanata · Post by **chalanata** » 17 Feb 2007, 17:57

i've heard TMK singing an excellent 'oh jagadamba' in parthsarathy sabha during december 2005. two main items were there; one was 'niinenera' in panthuvarali and the other was oh jagadamba.

ravi2006 · Post by **ravi2006** » 18 Feb 2007, 06:50

Sri TKG chose anandabhairavi for the RTP during his Sangita Kalanidhi concert at the Academy in 1999. There is also a commercially available CD of Chembai Vaidyanatha Bhagavatar (called 'Ragas of South India') with RTP in anandabhairavi.

knandago2001 · Post by **knandago2001** » 18 Feb 2007, 08:46

DKP and DKJ used to often render Thanjavur Sankara Iyer's anandabhairavi tillana (Ta tirana..) in their concerts. SSI and Voleti Venkateswarulu have popularized "Vanitharo" (a javali). I read the comments on "rare" sancharas in this raga with much interest. One of them is pnNS ppnnSS - it occurs in the gitam "Pahi Sri Ramachandra" - very distinct phrase. If one replaces p with m, the color changes completely and suggests ritigaula instead. Yet another prayoga is pdp sns (the d being intoned closer to n) which is also found in this gitam.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 18 Feb 2007, 09:10

GNB has sung an RTP in anandabhairavi.
TKRangachari in Anandbhairavi-Amrithavarshini

If someone needs it here. let me know.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 18 Feb 2007, 09:24

Would love to hear GNB's RTP!

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 18 Feb 2007, 10:52

http://www.badongo.com/file/2260603

mohan.here is the RTP by GNB

gb · Post by gb » 18 Feb 2007, 14:17

thanks for the response everyone.. Coolji i was expecting both of them.. if possible plz update the TKR also.

kaapi · Post by **kaapi** » 18 Feb 2007, 14:22

BMK had sung a RTP in amruthavarshini - Ananda bhairavi IIRC in MA 64 with MSG TVG.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 18 Feb 2007, 16:30

Thanks K-ji. At the beginning of the clip I was wondering if it was GNB or not as the voice sounded different. As he went to the faster brigha phrases, the doubt was cleared!

Who are the accompanists?

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 18 Feb 2007, 19:39

mohan
no idea.it is a track of real vintage.

Nandy · Post by **Nandy** » 20 Feb 2007, 04:15

coolkarni,

Just for information, incidentally, the same RTP by GNB has also been posted on sangeethapriya.org on this page towards the end.

http://www.sangeethapriya.org//MainItem/mainitem.html

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Feb 2007, 04:27

Nandy
Thanks.I Dont post tracks anywhere else on the Net, except this forum.
But I guess all the trails lead to GB Rajasekhars(Son of GNB) collection ultimately- One can never tire of saying Thanks to him...

Nandy · Post by **Nandy** » 20 Feb 2007, 08:22

Yeah that's true. Thanks to GB Rajasekhar.

Nandy · Post by **Nandy** » 20 Feb 2007, 08:24

That was a wonderful RTP. Thanks to you too for posting it here.

Nandy

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Feb 2007, 18:58

http://www.badongo.com/vid/298144
http://www.badongo.com/vid/298182
http://www.badongo.com/vid/298203

a great clip of Balmurali singing Nee Balama Nama Balama , in the company of MSG-Eswaran-Suresh

Nandy · Post by **Nandy** » 21 Feb 2007, 23:03

coolkarni,

That was a lovely rendering of nI balamA by BMK. He uses PNPNS (Kaishiki Ni) in the Anupallavi. Is that a rare prayoga in Aananda Bhairavi?

Thank you.

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 14 Jul 2007, 16:38

sadbhaktiyu in Ananda Bhairavi of Ramanathapuram Srinivasa Iyengar was a favourite of ARI. This song has nice chitta swara. This song looks to be outdated and present day vocalists are not singing.

balsree · Post by **balsree** » 27 Feb 2008, 16:34

Lakshman wrote:ambA nI caraNamu. rAgA: Anandabhairavi. Adi tALA. Composer: Ramaswami Dikshitar.

P: ambA nI caraNam jocciti AdarimpavammA
A: shambara vairini pratigincina shivasAmbhavI tripura sundarI O jagad-
(ciTTasvara)
pa dha pa ma pa ma ga ri ga ma pa ma ga ma ga ri ga ri sA sA ni ni sA ni sa ga ri ga ma
pA pA ni ni sa* ni sA* ma* ga* ri* gA* ri sa* ni sA* sA* ni dha pa pa ma ga rI gA ma
C1: sakala lOka janani nIvani sadA ninnu nE kOritini prakaTamaina
nI mahimalu viNTini paramjyOti ninnu poDagaNTini jagad-
2: cakkani bangAru bommA nI caraNamulE nammitinammA
grakkuna manavulu kaikommA gangAdharukommAmAyamma
3: vEre deivamulanu ilanu vEmaru vEDakalEnu
vIra shaktiyai velasiyunnAvu vEnkaTakrSNa sahOdariyanucu

Can somebody provide me the notations for this kriti?(atleast for the 2nd and 3rd charanam)

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 27 Feb 2008, 20:36

Shouldn't the first words in the AP be shambarAri vairini

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 01 Mar 2008, 19:03

'shambara vairi' means 'the enemy of the demon shambara,-it is an epithet of manmatha,the god of love.
'shambarAri vairi' means the enemy of the enemy of shambara-ie the enemy of manmatha-Lord Shiva
In the song 'amba vANi nannADrinchavE' the words'- 'sambarAri vairi sAhodari'-occur;here the reference is to goddess Saraswathi who is the sister of Lord Shiva.
I feel shambaravairi is the correct word

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 01 Mar 2008, 20:41

Punarvasu,

Can you translate the anupallavI please?

Thanks,

Ravi

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 02 Mar 2008, 13:37

Hi Ravi,
the translation of the anupallavi is as under:
(You) are the Shambavi,Tripurasundari, who revived(brought back to life) the enemy of Shambara(shambaravarini-)
Do you want the meaning of the charanam also?

meena · Post by **meena** » 03 Mar 2008, 00:44

Punarvasu
Pl. do , thanku

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 04 Mar 2008, 06:42

The charanam-
I pray to you as you are the mother of all the beings.I have heard about you powers(mahimas) which are well known. You are the supreme light and I have seen you, O Jagadamba.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 04 Mar 2008, 07:15

Thanks, Punarvasu.

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 06 Mar 2008, 12:42

Correct me if I'm wrong:
Shambavi = being the consort of Shambhu (ashen-colored)
Tripurasundari = She is the Master of the triads(could be sattva, rajas & tamas or the past, present, or future - cf. trikAlajnAna saMpannAm namAmi bhuvanEShvarIM)

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 06 Mar 2008, 17:12

In one of the chitaswarams(composer not aware)Neemadhi sallaga P DNPD
proyogam is found.Is it a rare/ permitted one?

vignesh.ishwar · Post by **vignesh.ishwar** » 07 Mar 2008, 19:23

did which deivatha was it???

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 07 Mar 2008, 23:17

Both Suddhadeivatham if I recollect.

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 08 Mar 2008, 02:54

Here is an excerpt of relevant portion (MDR): http://www.sendspace.com/file/i021e3

IMO, both are not d1 here. I think it is p d2 n p , d1 m p .. Just that the first da is intonated softer and can give a perception of flat but IMO it is not d1. The second i.e. in p-d-m is d1 (both the very first occurance where it is p-d-m by itself as well in this one).

These are similar to the usages in rItigowLa: (a) p-d-n-d , m - although there both are like d2, the first one can give a perception of being a bit lower), (b) p-d*-m-p with d1. Check out the ritigowLa portion of this sample: http://www.sendspace.com/file/l6dze9

Arun

vignesh.ishwar · Post by **vignesh.ishwar** » 09 Mar 2008, 09:26

Exactly ....both cannot be the d1 in both cases....see in any bhairavi the suddha deivatham is pradhanyam according to the little i know....if u r not touching the sadjam then it must be d1 and while coming back to the pa ie the NDP phrase it will be the d2 ....it sounds vice versa because of the sliding nature of the swara in this raga....

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 09 Mar 2008, 20:20

I am not sure what you mean by
1. Both cannot be the d1 in both cases. Both and both?
2. If u r not touching the sadjam then it must be d1. Where is the sadjam here Perhaps you mean panchamam? But even so I am not sure what you mean (also PLEASE avoid SMS lingo here)
3. In NDP it will be d2. I think this will not be so for any bhairavi" - for regular bhairavi ndp would be d1. For Anandabhairavi, it would be d2,

d1 => suddha dhaivatam

Arun

vignesh.ishwar · Post by **vignesh.ishwar** » 09 Mar 2008, 22:38

If u hear the saami neepai varnam in ananda bhairavi you can see a lot of Pa-Da1-Ni-Pa u can also hear a Da1-Da2-Pa-Ma phrases......so we usually use the chaturshruti Deivatham when we are Looking to Approach to the Sadjam OR when we sing the Pa-Da2-Pa-Sa and even the Sa-Ni-Da2 prayoga and we use the suddha Deivatham in the above mentioned prayogas so the Pa-Da-Ni-Pa prayoga normally takes the suddha Deivatha ....there may be a usage of Da2 but i havent heard.....

and about the Ni-Da-Pa prayoga...i forgot to mention that it was only for ananda bhairavi. thanks for pointing

Now what ever i hav written above is pertaining to ananda bhairavi

and about this statement u wrote "If u r touching the sadjam then it must be d1. " please note the "not " i hav written sir..

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 09 Mar 2008, 23:13

Thanks. Did you listen to the MDR's one? You think the firt da in p-d-n-d p, d m is D1? IMO it seems D2 (or atleast closer to it than D1).

But I dont know that varnam and maybe there are differences in usages. The carnatica newsletter (http://www.carnatica.net/newsletter/ana ... letter.htm) this though:

Of the three anya swaras mentioned above, Chatusruti Dhaivata, far from being a mere visiting or accidental note, is an indispensable note forming an integral part or limb of the scale itself in both its ascent and descent. In fact, it is impossible to elaborate the raga like the scale of Bhairavi, without resorting to Chatusruti Dhaivata. Phrases in both the ascent and decent as in p d p s - s n d p - p d n d n p - g m p d p make use of Chatusruti Dhaivata, which occurs in all the regular prayogas more frequently than Suddha Dhaivata, which is admitted only in a few phrases like p d m p g r - g m d p m g r - g m p D D m p g r.

This seems consistent with the MDR clip to me.

But if the varnam has p-d1-n (like I have heard for bhairavi too i.e. per some sampradaya), then it could be the older form and perhaps later changes/practice resulted in usage of D1 to something more sparing.

Arun

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 09 Mar 2008, 23:14

vignesh.ishwar wrote:and about this statement u wrote "If u r touching the sadjam then it must be d1. " please note the "not " i hav written sir..

Yep. Sorry. I copied and pasted incorrectly

. I fixed it now.

vignesh.ishwar · Post by **vignesh.ishwar** » 09 Mar 2008, 23:17

To Arunk
Thanks a lot....i heard the mdr clip....it is surely the chaturshruti deivatham....but when i learnt the varnam i noticed this peculiar way in which it goes.....may be the composition has the suddha devaitham as pradhanyam

....and as u mentioned there are many changes that hav taken place which are inexplicable...