G Ravikiran@mantra's house(crt #20)on May 22nd,2010

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 10 May 2010, 12:33

G Ravikiran@mantra's house(crt #20)on May 22nd,2010
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We are moving forward for this month's concert of rasayana, championed by

karni. The artist is a very promising musician G Ravikiran who is disciple of two prominent vidwans, RK Shrikantan and TM KrishnA. The concert starts sharply at 05:30pm on Sat , May 22nd 2010

Venue is the residence of Shyam Kalyan(mantrA)-No 18 /Old 22 Second street lake area, Nungambakkam, Chennai â€“ 600034 (Lake area is behind Valluvar Kottam. The street is one street after the Padma Seshadri School)

At this stage the accompanists are not yet finalized , will revert with details once when finalized. As such mark your calendars for the evening of Sat-May 22nd,2010.

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 10 May 2010, 13:21

I am playing mridangam ...

J.balaji

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 10 May 2010, 15:41

Good News

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 10 May 2010, 15:48

Violin: Vidwan B Ananthakrishnan
Mridangam: Vidwan Mannarkoil J Balaji

semmu86 · Post by **semmu86** » 10 May 2010, 16:09

yes. Noted down

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 10 May 2010, 22:12

And Ravikiran is a fellow forumite too.
We hope to hear some of his singing on the forum, of course.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 20 May 2010, 12:20

Hoping that this concert is still going ahead?

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 20 May 2010, 14:22

Yes
Chennaities .. pleeeease come in big numbers.Let us give a big hand to two fellow forumites, who deserve all our undivided attention.Your attendance is badly needed for us to keep this series going.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 20 May 2010, 15:20

Nothing less than a tropical storm would keep me away.

And, hey, what are the chances of that happening?

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 20 May 2010, 21:12

I think we should try to keep this thread near the top of the list over the next two days --- in case anyone misses it.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 20 May 2010, 22:21

Here you go (my little nudge)!

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 21 May 2010, 14:07

It's tomorrow!

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 21 May 2010, 18:34

Simple Dinner will be served after the concert - Iddly Dinner

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 21 May 2010, 19:24

.........from Murugan's iDly shop?

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 21 May 2010, 21:25

No, Arasi - it will be special maNamuLLa (khuSboo-dAr) iDli.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 21 May 2010, 21:31

Rajumds, Mantra,
Wishing our RasikA performers a grand concert and hope you all have a 8) time!
s_p and others are going to be happy to hear that you are going to have an idli supper

Missing the concert, some of us are going to miss the iDlis too

And how many of our reviewers are going to be there too!

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 May 2010, 10:45

G Ravikiran@mantra's house(crt #20)on May 22nd,2010
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Vocal : G Ravikiran
Violin : B.Ananthakrishnan(Ananthakrishnan is the disciple of his grandfather Late VK VenkataRamanujam. He is also the maternal great grandson of Vidwan Late RS Gopalakrishnan.)
Mrudangam : mannArkoil balAji

Concert duration : 2 hours and 45 minutes
Sponsors : By rasikas under coolkarni's rasayAna

1. vanajAkshi niNNE kOri - mandAri - mysore vasudevAcharyA
2. cEDE buddhi maanuraa(RS,S) - aThANA - T
4 mins swaras
3. peDDathE muNda ninu nammithi rA rAma rAma rAma?? (R N S) - mOhanam - mysore sadAshiva rao
8 mins alAPanai 6 mins violin return
neraval in "gathi neevE rA sadAshiva kavinutha?? .... murthE" for 6 mins
4 mins swaras

4. cinna nAtanA - kalAnidhi - T
5. ETi janmamidi(R N S) - varAli - T
8 mins alApanai , 7 mins violin return
neraval in "sAgara shayanuni tyAgarAjanutuni vEgamE jUDaka" for 6 mins
4 mins swaras
6. bhOgEEndra sAyinam (S) - kuntalavarAli - ST
3 mins swaras

7. Vachama gocharame - kaikavashi - T
8A. RTP - reetigowlai
alApana for 13 minutes with 2 violin returns in 3 rounds
tAnam for 11 mins
pallavi in khanda jathi triputha tAlam in the lines "dasaratha bAla rAma chandrayyA dayAnidhE mAm pAhi" for 8 mins
ragamaliga swaras for 11 minutes in reetigowlai + gowlai + kEdAragowlai + mEgharanjani then back
&& then in 2nd kALam in sAveri + kAmboDhi and back to reetigowlai
8B. tani for 13 mins

9. Cheli Nenetlu - parAs - chinayyA????(help needed)
10. jagadEEsha starting from anupallavi - nAdanAmakriyA - ST
11A. bhujagasAyinO - yadukula kAmbOdhi - ST
11B. mangalam kOsalendrAya - yadukula kAmbOdhi

This is my second concert of G Ravikiran , last time I heard him was in 2007 way back in SKGS mini hall, a long gap that must have taken him from then a maturing to now a matured artist. The start was in mandAri , with a lovely varnam the hues was well set then with a very very questioning atAnA. with a nice topping of rapid turns in swaras ending with CeDE buddhi , a very kalaikuttyfying krithi to say the least

The submain was by a rare composer and it was a very rare krithi . I have personally not heard this krithi sung by anyone and did only know its existence after G ravikiran sang. When he took up mOhanam alAPana ,it had a very aesthetic cut , the kAlapramAnam of the krithi is bit in the slow side then most of the mOhanam krithi that we all are acclimitized too, he sang beautifully with a very good neraval . I could not get the second half of the neraval and I am not complaining as musically he got lost. The swara downpour started well but he could have gone little more.

The filler kalAnidhi was some what not the best and did have a slight dip. He being the disciple of RK Shrikanthan and TMK who have been inspired the most by semmangudi was evident in alApana and the renditon of the main in varAli . The touch of semmangudi mAmA (who else can sing a better varAli) was there to me , nice nyasa touch and the krithi and neraval was excellent. Swaras were well done though it was bit short .

bhOgeendra sAYinam must be the most favourite krithi for any musician to pAd it between main and RTP, in our last series pandit did the same and this time G ravikiran did that too with a sprinkle of swaras . Reetigowlai as an RTP was handled perhaps first by GNB and then MLV and then perhaps there was a big hibernation till possibly TM krishna took it up (atleast that is what forum review says, perhaps there were other artists).
When he sang for few minutes and then handed over to violin in the alApana, I was thinking then may be G ravikiran should have given a tani after varAli then took adequate rest to charge himself but I was proven wrong when he went with another 8 minutes of a very engaging alAPana. TAnam was a tricky affair and for this rAga it sounds best perhaps without mridangam and the tAnam was very engaging a bit alApana touch is perhaps inevitable more for this rAgA to get that beautiful melodic contours of reetigowlai

The pallavi one composed by TMK was well done and he did sing well with trikAlam. In swaras he launched into reetigowlai then gowlai , kedara gowlai and a rare megharanjani he retraced back and landed in reetigowlai and then went with 2nd kAlam rendition in sAveri and kAMbOdhi and back to reetigowlai

Tukkadas in pAras was well done and the last yk kAMbOdhi could have swirled more on the emote side. Semmangudi and TMK touch was very very omnipresent in nAdham that reached a kriyA in that ST masterpiece tukkadA.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 May 2010, 10:46

About the accompanist:
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B.Ananthakrishnan was the best in the pallavi , he slightly errs on the proportion side as his returns were bit long . balAji played beautifully no over banging at all and his play had the right aesthetics keeping up with the chamber concert experience intact. Tani was quite good

Few shortcomings:
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All of them are minor more incidental in this concert

1. He can pay little more attention to his swaras in terms of aesthetics , in the rAgamALigA the rAga bhavam can be more asserted especially in the kedaragowlai and sAveri ,little spacing at the start of the ragamALiga and few more distinct patterns would have been better to my taste. ALso in varAli and mOhanam little more swara prasthana patterns would have been lovelier

2. Perhaps a dikshitar vilamba kAla krithi and a dash of slokham or viruththam would have made it better

All said and done , this musician had fairly immense vocal stamina to sing long concerts(pushing the tani all the way at the end of pallavi after the taxing varAli as main). One has to watch out for him he is just peaking. Tx to mantra and family for providing a sumptous dinner.Overall a very good to excellent concert for 2 hours and 45 minutes.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 23 May 2010, 16:08

A wonderful concert, with great teamwork from the three performers.

I particularly enjoyed the RTP. I liked the presentation of the alapana with vocal and violin "sharing" in shorter turns. The tanum was excellent. Sometimes there is a tendency for the final third of the RTP set to consist of little more than the mathematical variations on the pallavi, with only a nod towards neraval and swarams. Whilst half an hour of neraval would have made this RTP really perfect for me, there was a lovely ragamalika performance of swaras.

I bow to rajeshnat's experience and timing --- but I didn't feel that Ananthakrishnan's returns were too long. I felt that there was an excellent partnership between him and Ravikiran. It is always nice to see a violinist giving genuine pleasure to the vocalist, and the vocalist sincerely expressing that.

The concert kept its energy and atmosphere high right to the end. I felt that it could go on. In fact Nageswaran made a request which, I gathered (through my usual linguistic difficulties) was refused on the grounds of time constraints of some sort. Perhaps it was best that it ended on such a high. There was not even a tremor of lost attention from the audience during Managalam; Ravikiran really held our attention to the very last second.

Balaji --- all I can say is that he is my favourite mridangist at the moment. His play is just so "musical" and beautiful to listen to, both in accompaniment and tani.

Thanks, as ever, to Coolji, and to Mantra and his family for their hospitality and ambience.

Everything was so wonderful that I almost didn't mind having an accident on the way home. Don't worry; no flesh or bone damaged, only steel and glass.... and ego!

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 23 May 2010, 17:49

Thanks for the reports!

I was delighted to read about the mOhana item of Mysore Sadashiva Rao. I am guessing it is peddadEvunDani (this is how I have read it in kannaDa script). I have not heard any rendition of this kRti - an audio of this item would be really nice to have!

varALi seems to be one of Ravikiran's favourites - I have listened to excellent renditions by Ravikiran in this rAga.

Thanks to the team behind this event for all the hard work, and congratulations to the organizers and performers!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 23 May 2010, 18:58

Lovely review Rajesh. Thank you. The concert seems to have been a good one. peddadEvuDu would mean the mighty Lord...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 23 May 2010, 19:50

Rajesh,
Good to hear that the concert was a very good one.How many rasikAs attended? Are we going to hear at least part of the concert?

Nick,
Sorry to hear about your after-concert experience. Glad to know that you are not hurt.
Happy to know that you enjoy your neravals. As they say,it's all kELvi gnAnam--the more you hear, the more you learn. kELvi can mean listening as well as a question.

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 23 May 2010, 20:34

I found the sAhitya (and swara) for

peddadEunDani ninnu nammitirA rAma rAma rAma (mOhana, Adi tALa).

neraval line must have been :

gati nIvEra sAdASiva kavinuta nirvyArja karuNamurte

(not sure about the word nirvyArja, perhaps Keerthi might be able to help)

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 23 May 2010, 21:26

Nick - hope all is well with you and your vAhanam...(and er..ego!)

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 23 May 2010, 21:41

Sreeni Rajarao wrote:
not sure about the word nirvyArja, perhaps Keerthi might be able to help).
I think the word should be 'nirvyAja' and not 'nirvyArja'.
It means 'without any reason'; the Lord is called 'avyAja karuNA mUrthy' meaning He showers His
compassion without any 'reason'; 'nirvyAja' an 'avyAja' mean one and the same.

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 23 May 2010, 22:30

I wanted to attend this concert but had to go elsewhere. ;(

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 24 May 2010, 01:04

When is the next concert?

I'll have to give a deadline for fixing the car!

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 24 May 2010, 06:55

NICK
26th JUNE
R Parthasarathy - Veena
Ganapathyraman Mridangam
Karthik Ghatam
In collaboration with Brahaddhwani Concert group.
Location : somewhere in RA Puram

July
Delhi Muthukumar - Vocal

August
Possibly D Pasupathi

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 24 May 2010, 10:05

It was a superb concert by the Youngster brimming with energy and confidence. He has utmost conviction for the traditional values and he has the art of expressing them gracefully through multi-hued creativity.

I thouroughly enjoyed the concert and presence of great rasikas.

The audience turn-out was good and there was pin-drop silence throughout the concert goes to show the dedication of both the organisers and also the rasikas. That the rasikas want pristine music at one of the best possible atmosphere was evident on that day with out-of-the-world hospitality by Mantra and his family members and also by the dedicated team of members @ rasikas.

The food was very good. I will be failing in my duty if i dont mention the excellent mike system provided by Kanna Sound System-who is one of the best in the business. He knew how much volume should be kept for such a close quarter audience without tearing their ears and also providing the best feedback to the artistes.

On the whole it was one of my best experiences in the recent times. The hall had basically a very good acoustics and hence the mike system also complimented the ambience very well.

Of course the food was excellent. I was unfortuante not to be present till the end of dinner and have a chat with all the members as i had to rush to catch a train to trichy. There is always a next time.

Mannarkoil J.Balaji

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 24 May 2010, 10:15

PUNARVASU wrote: I think the word should be 'nirvyAja' and not 'nirvyArja'.
It means 'without any reason'; the Lord is called 'avyAja karuNA mUrthy' meaning He showers His
compassion without any 'reason'; 'nirvyAja' an 'avyAja' mean one and the same.

punarvasu has it right..

a better translation would probably be 'unconditional' rather than 'without any reason'; which gives one the impression of god's compassion being arbitrary or worse, whimsical.

MD has used avyAja in his sALanganATa song 'avyAja-karuNA-kaTAkSi anishaM mAmava kAmAkSi'

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 24 May 2010, 14:16

Keerthi,
you are spot on; that word eluded me; I know 'without any reason' did not convey the exact meaning. I tried to get the correct word; but since it eluded me, I wrote this.Thanks.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 24 May 2010, 22:33

rajumds wrote:NICK
26th JUNE
R Parthasarathy - Veena
Ganapathyraman Mridangam
Karthik Ghatam
In collaboration with Brahaddhwani Concert group.
Location : somewhere in RA Puram

Somewhere in RA Puram! I'll find you!

Thanks... looking forward to it.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 24 May 2010, 23:45

celinEnETlu is by Pattabhiramiah.

S.NAGESWARAN · Post by **S.NAGESWARAN** » 25 May 2010, 03:13

The organizers of RASAYANA should ensure that the announcement of concerts is to be indicated in the â€œMUSIC AND FESTIVALS â€œHEADING.

Also the heading of "RASAYANA" should appear in bold letters and made an eye catching way with colour and blinking so that the Rasikas will definitely Note the informationâ€™s.

Further, Reviews of the concerts under RASAYANA should be posted in the RASAYANA heading .

I hope that one of the organizers can copy the earlier concerts arranged under RASAYANA are brought them all into the RASAYANA heading.

S.NAGESWARAN.
25, 05.2010.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 25 May 2010, 03:52

Correct. We have a name, and if it is not used, it will be forgotten.

But let us spare the colour and the blinking

S.NAGESWARAN · Post by **S.NAGESWARAN** » 25 May 2010, 04:30

Sometimes, even when you had an opportunity to express yourself, you miss the opportunity. Then. The next day, you feel that you could have communicated more when the opportunity was given.

Coolji had given me an opportunity to speak a few words in the Ravikiranâ€™s concert
a few words and a man with 5 decades of concert listening [U/S Only] used to mention many
Interesting in formations failed on this occasion.

Any how, I am giving below what I wanted to say in Ravikiranâ€™s concert.

1. Invariably in every concert of the Rasikas Forum [now Rasayana], the artist sings a rare krithi [In our first concert of Sri Ramprasad, he sang â€œ Seethanayakane â€œ in Reethigoulai Ragam . In Sri G.S.Maniâ€™s concert, we listened to many rare krithis of his own composition. Sri Suryaprakash sang his own composition in Rudrapriya Ragam. Similarly by the other artists,
Sri Ravikiran sung Sadasiva Raoâ€™s krithi in the Mohanam Ragam.
The extensive Alapana in Reethigoulai will be ringing in our ears for a long time.
The thanam in the same raga was done meticulously.
The artist is having a very good lung power and was able to sustain a very long Alapanas and swaras. Appropriate application of â€œVallinam and â€œMellinamâ€ in correct places of the krithis embellished the songs,
I must have informed the Rasikas about the brilliant composition of Sri Thyagaraja
In Atana, the krithi â€œ Chade Buddhimanura â€œ with an â€œ oru idam thalliâ€ Edduphhu
For the song. Perhaps Thyagaraja made this composition to counter the opinion of
Sri Pallavi venkatrama Iyerâ€™s comment that Sri Thyagarajar was not a complete
Musician with no knowledge in composing Pallavis in different Thalams like him.

2. B.Ananthakrishnan, disciple of his grandfather V.K.Venkataramanujam, played a good violin accompaniment for the concert. Many a time, Sri Ravikiran was appreciating the replies to the swara passages in all songs.
Many may not know that he is also very well versed in Hindustani Music. He learnt
Hindustani Music from his father Sri V.Balaji who was a disciple of Dr. N.Rajam.
Sri V.Balaji is now a professor in Hindustani music at the Benaras Hindu University.

3. Sri Mannarkoil Balaji, perhaps might have noted many adverse comments about the mridangam artists in this forum time and again.
His playing for the concert was superb with very good anticipation and understanding with the vocalist and the violinist. His playing was very soft and melodious and he never once over did in banging the mridangam during the concert.
During the Thani Avarthanam, for many of his Avarthana korvies, he made the vocalist to think and made the vocalist to nod his head during the end of every
End of the korvai.

S.NAGESWARAN,
25.05.2010.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 25 May 2010, 07:38

Sanskrit scholars,
I need help with the word rasAyana. Was it chosen to mean 'chemistry', 'alchemy', 'the way to rasA' or is it just a shortened form of 'the pathway of rasikAs'?

semmu86 · Post by **semmu86** » 25 May 2010, 08:29

S.NAGESWARAN wrote: In Atana, the krithi â€œ Chade Buddhimanura â€œ with an â€œ oru idam thalliâ€ Edduphhu For the song.
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If am not wrong, the eduppu was 3 aksharas after the last veechu (or) 1 akshara before samam. Kind of an athEEtha eduppu.

S.NAGESWARAN · Post by **S.NAGESWARAN** » 25 May 2010, 08:46

Dear Semmu 86,

I am not a close follower of rhytham patterns. I have mentioned what I have heard from the Upanyasam of Needamangalam Krishnamurthy Bhagavather [heard long time before].

As a disciple of Sri Umayalpuram sivaraman., you must be right. [or is it arai edam thalli eduppu ?]. You are a better judge on this aspect.

S.NAGESWARAN.
25.05.2010.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 25 May 2010, 12:24

It was a good concert.

I was hearing to mandAri varNam after a long time. It also been quite sometime since i heard mOhanam. With Eti janma midi hA being a personal favourite, it was a good concert all the way.

Sri Ravikiran sang well with a lot of bhavam and conviction towards traditional ideas. It was good to hear. With the guidance from his expert gurus, i m sure he will make it much bigger in future. Sri Ananthakrishnan gave very fitting replies and provided good support. Sri Balaji, the veteran on stage, was wonderful. He played in perfect tandem with the main artist.

I wish to place on record my appreciations for the sound setup as well.

Mantra and his family played perfect hosts. The venue, as we have experienced many times before, is just too good for a chamber concert and it was a lovely evening, to end with tasty home-made dinner.

Day of favourites for me: mantra's house as venue, Eti janma midi hA, rItigauLa, paras javaLi, arisi upma, thenga chutney

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 25 May 2010, 12:25

S.NAGESWARAN wrote:or is it arai edam thalli eduppu ?

It is eDuppu of kAl eDam before samam.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 25 May 2010, 14:22

S.NAGESWARAN wrote:The organizers of RASAYANA should ensure that the announcement of concerts is to be indicated in the â€œMUSIC AND FESTIVALS â€œHEADING.

Also the heading of "RASAYANA" should appear in bold letters and made an eye catching way with colour and blinking so that the Rasikas will definitely Note the informationâ€™s.

Further, Reviews of the concerts under RASAYANA should be posted in the RASAYANA heading .

I hope that one of the organizers can copy the earlier concerts arranged under RASAYANA are brought them all into the RASAYANA heading.

S.NAGESWARAN.
25, 05.2010.

nageshwaran sir

# The title itself is always bolded and whenever you login with your profile before clicking the link for the first time ,it is also bolded .

# The title text (unlike the previous forum) has a limited length. You can see quite a few titles during migration got truncated . srkris -admin , please look into extending the length of the title. As such rasayana word is just fitting in the title , so next time we will put it .

# I usually use music and festival headings to announce concerts in the event of me not attending the concert . In this case I was sure to attend . Also as such there are few concert reviews in the past where reviews got posted in the same thread as the announcement thread (we just cant enforce as each of us tend to post the reviews in the same thread).

# We dont need blinking and colored texts at all on a long run it becomes very irritating as each of us will use and misuse it(all forums generally donot ). As such irrespective of where ever we announce one of us always bumps up the post when the actual day of the concert comes nearer , so as such if you login anytime you will know that the concert is there close to that day .

# When time permits I will open a new thread and provide links for all the 20 + concerts .

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 25 May 2010, 15:31

As a general matter, I think it would be nice if announcements and reviews were in the same thread, so everything about the concert stays together. Our moderators might consider about this, please.

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 25 May 2010, 17:59

arasi wrote:Sanskrit scholars,
I need help with the word rasAyana. Was it chosen to mean 'chemistry', 'alchemy', 'the way to rasA' or is it just a shortened form of 'the pathway of rasikAs'?

http://chennairasika.wordpress.com/about/

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 25 May 2010, 18:22

Shouldn't the word be written as "rasAyaNaH" (with or without the "H" at the end)?
ayaNa means journey. RAmAyaNam is "the journey (or path) of Rama"

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 26 May 2010, 03:02

Thanks, Keerthi and 8) !

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 26 May 2010, 03:18

mahakavi wrote:Shouldn't the word be written as "rasAyaNaH" (with or without the "H" at the end)?
ayaNa means journey. RAmAyaNam is "the journey (or path) of Rama"

Mahakavi - Shouldn't it be rAma + ayana = rAmAyaNa according to pANiNi's sUtram? It goes something like "pUrva padAth samgyAyAm agaha.........." (CML may be able to give the exact sUtra). If it the last alphabet in the first word in the sandhi is not gakAram then, if there is a nakAram in the second half, it will become NakAram. In tamizh we say mellinam vallittuviDum. It is the same reason why nAra+ayana = nArAyaNa. (But here ayana Sabhda means place of refuge.) So, rasAyaNa should be rasa + ayana.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 26 May 2010, 05:52

I was only referring to the compound words as to how they are/should be written:
rAmAyaNa
rasAyaNa (not rasAyana)

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 26 May 2010, 06:59

mahakavi wrote:I was only referring to the compound words as to how they are/should be written:
rAmAyaNa
rasAyaNa (not rasAyana)

this question invokes the paNinIya sUtra 'raSAbhyaM no Nah samAnapade' [probably the only sUtra I know.]

The rule states that the sibilant (dental) s sound transmutes to the mUrdhanya (guttural?) Sa; and the dental n sound tranforms into the murdhanya N sound; if the word has r in it.

I presume mahakavi's question is regarding this usage..

this is tricky and entails a tedious answer.

If you say that it is because ayaNa is the word for journey, that is easier to answer..

- the word for path/ journey is ayanaM and not ayaNam.
It becomes ayaNam in rAmayana and nArAyaNa, because of the presence of r in each word [ see above sutra]

There are exceptions to the application of the sutra, and rasAyana is one of those. This could be due to the presence of s in the rasa phoneme.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 26 May 2010, 07:05

Thanks, Keerthi, for the explanation.
How is "chemistry" (rasAyanam) written in Sanskrit ( in Roman script)?