T.M. Krishna at Indian Fine Arts, San Diego; May 13 2011

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Sindhuja
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T.M. Krishna at Indian Fine Arts, San Diego; May 13 2011

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Violin: R.K Sriramkumar
Mridangam: Arun Prakash

List:
1. Sri Janaki Pathe- Kharaharapriya, Adi, Papanasham Shivan (Swaram)
2. Meenakshi- Gamakakriya, Adi (2), Muthuswami Dikshitar (Ragam, Neraval, Swaram)
3. Smarane Sukhamu- Janaranjani, Adi, Thyagaraja
4. Vadasiyati Kimchidapi- Mukhari, Khanda Chapu, Jayadeva (Ashtapathi) (Ragam, Neraval, Swaram)
5. RTP- Kalyani; Chaturshra jathi Rupakam; with swarams in Kalyani, Begada, Sahana, Dwijavanthi, Neelambari, Ananda Bhairavi, Athana, Darbar, Shri, Brindavan Saranga (?)
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(I left at that point- someone please fill me in!)

TMK started by acknowledging Pt. Ravi Shankar's presence- who was in the first row as always- and said he was honored to sing in front of him. He then asked the audience if they wanted him to announce the ragas, and sure enough, people said yes, but only after each song. TMK smiled, agreed, and then said it was a "trick question" that "every city falls for"- I'm not sure what exactly the trick was, nevertheless his interaction with the audience felt nice.

TMK started with sri janaki pathe in Kharaharapriya. It was stamped with his style all over: the slow, unhurried pace laced with tremendous bhavam. One word: sowkhyam. It felt uplifting, literally. The alapanai at the word "charana" was fantastic. But as he finished the line at "sakala", he suddenly paused for what felt like more than a minute. We were wondering what was on his mind- RKS was filling in and TMK just looked like he was in deep contemplation about something. These things are probably a result of completely losing oneself in the music. He restarted and finished the song in style though. The swaras at janaki pathe were brilliant, and RKS- my, what a violinist! Brilliant replies throughout; and I'm sure I'm going to run out of words for him by the time I finish writing this. TMK's first speed swaras were lovely with nothing flashy. Those of you who've seen him live would know how animated his body language is, on stage- and just as I was thinking how he was literally caressing the swaras so beautifully, he was actually moving his hands like he was rocking a baby or something :) It had very interesting prayogams and the trademark kharaharapriya Gr (tarastayi) Nd Gr phrase came out wonderfully. Something worth mentioning perhaps, is that TMK gets completely immersed in RKS's playing every time- he closes his eyes and appreciates him immensely. After the first speed swaras, he sang one elaborate swara in the second speed (stopping each line at Da)- it was a grand flourish of swaras and a fitting finale to the piece. TMK then started an alapanai in what seemed like Purvikalyani (PK). But a few minutes into the ragam, I was thinking that it sounds more like Gamakakriya (GK), and he announced that it was indeed Gamakakriya: said earlier on there might not have been a distinction between PK and GK but today, there is a slight distinction. If I'm right, I think GK is PK in Dikshitar's school- it seems to be just Gamanashrama without Ni in the arohanam (as opposed to the vakra PDPS of PK; although these days people are generous in their use of GMDS-like phrases even when they claim to sing PK, but they would only be in addition to PDPS). His mandara stayi was a delight to hear. Throughout the alap, he was having an animated "conversation" with RKS- with eye contact, vigorously shaking his head etc..- it all only added to the mood and excitement! It was commendable that he went all the way to the anumandara stayi Da (although it didn't sound very pleasant to the ears). RKS responded brilliantly as expected. Both TMK and RKS seemed to use NMPD and DMPD a few times and I was kinda wondering if it was conscious- if the avaro allows all swaras, I was wondering why (what seemed to me like) an emphasis on pa varjya phrases- or may be they were just casual prayogams. TMK started Meenakshi. Again, TMK style all the way: the second or third piece is always ativilambakalam in his concerts, and so was this one. I'm not a huge fan of this extra-extra slow pace but may be due to my bias for the raga, I did enjoy this one for the most part. May be it's just me, but I felt like TMK was not sustaining the line endings (both in alapanai and in the song) much- it was a bit disappointing at times, since every single swara in the line would be so beautifully sustained and at the very end, the last note would not be- I was wondering if it was a breath issue; a result of singing at this extreme slow pace. He sang neraval at "Madhumada mohita": started with mandara and slowly went higher. At this point, his voice seemed to show a slight crack and strain. But the sarvalaghu sangathis in the second speed neraval were amazing. The words were indiscernable, but that's probably inevitable at that pace and especially when you're stressing so hard on every letter and syllable... In the second speed, I felt the kalapramanam suddenly increased as he was going higher and higher, especially in the climax- that really surprised me.But overall it was great, no doubt and the piece ended without kalpana swaras. Smarane sukhamu was the next piece and was sung in an apt, medium pace. No frills, no fancy, and everything seemed right about it- thoroughly enjoyable.

So far, so good.

TMK then started alapanai in Mukhari and I was disappointed to say the least (high time I get out of my raga biases I guess, but not able to help it). I didn't write down much in my notes here. I can say that it was a brilliantly done alapanai though- had all the elements of the raga and RKS was, needless to say, amazing too. Once again as in the first piece, TMK stopped in the middle, rubbed his eyes and took his time to resume (my friend next to me was wondering if it was jet lag!) But none of that affected his brilliance. He sang vadasiyati, a Jayadeva asthapathi. Again it was at quite a slow pace and the thalam seemed to drag a little here and there- I thought to myself that when you sing THIS slowly, it's probably hard to maintain the thalam...Neraval and swaram were sung at smaragana... One interesting thing in the swaram was TMK stopping in turn at tara, madhyama and mandara ri both in first and second speeds- he had some very interesting patterns there. Again, when he finished and the thani started, the thalam dropped in speed considerably- and this time I was quite sure; and my mridangist friend next to me vouched for it. Throughout the thani there was a nagging feeling that TMK was not maintaining a constant pace as he was putting the thalam and Arun Prakash seemed to be following him. Of course with these things you can never be absolutely sure, but that actually made me wonder why we don't have metronomes in Carnatic concerts! If you say layam is supposed to be naturally internal to us and that we shouldn't need an external source to aid us, then so is shruthi! When we can have a tambura/ shruthi box, why not a metronome/ tala meter/ tala box? Curious...

Next was an RTP in Kalyani. Again, the choice of raga didn't enthuse me much (yeah, I'm not a fan of the big five, especially Kalyani). But of course, he was nothing short of brilliant. The ragam was for 15 minutes and although it was nearing 10 pm there was no sense of hurry in him (he started around 7:20) and that made me very happy. The fast phrases were fantastic. The thanam was very good too- very typically Kalyani, very typically how a thanam usually is; but brilliant nevertheless. The pallavi was in chaturshra rupakam and went as follows: Brahmhaivamkhila satgurukripaya. I would only be repeating myself if I use any more adjectives here to describe the pallavi. When TMK started the ragamalika swaras I was thrilled! A beautiful Begada started and I was already convinced that the swaras would make up for my disappointment with Kalyani. What was particularly interesting was how TMK and RKS took turns and played different ragas (rather than the customary repeating of the vocalist's ragas by the violinist). I don't know if they did this for lack of time, but I don't care because it was great the way they did it! Defying the unwritten norm that similar ragas shouldn't be performed back to back, they did precisely that. RKS played Sahana after TMK's Begada, TMK followed up with Dwijavanthi; RKS replied with Neelambari, TMK did Ananda Bhairavi, RKS, Athana, TMK Darbar and RKS Shri. It was an intellectual exercise for those who get confused with similar ragas, to actually try and discern them and understand the exact differences since they were played back to back. It was interesting how after a raga by one of them, the other would initially play a few phrases of the same raga and then very gradually switch to the next raga: was quite tricky to note where the switch exactly happened. Especially after RKS's Sahana, TMK kept wondering what to sing next (or so it seemed) and kept singing Sahana for a few avarthanams- and in fact smiled and gestured to RKS asking what he should sing. I'm sure that only increased the excitement and curiosity of the audience about what was coming. And then slowly he introduced Ga2 and made the switch to Dwijavanthi. I had to leave after Shri since I had other engagements, but I thought I heard Brindavan Saranga and then Kalyani again from outside the auditorium- can someone please confirm? And also fill us in on what he sang after that?

RKS was superb and for me, what stood out was his Sahana. With a humble smile throughout, he's a pleasure to hear and watch. He brilliantly matched up with TMK, as always. Arun Prakash was very good too. Underplayed when he had to (during TMK's slow moments) and made his presence felt when he had to. The thani was very good as he alternated between tisram and khandam (what I learnt from my friend- I'm not entirely sure myself). His accompaniment for the swaras were very good and fit with TMK's patterns like hand in glove.

Overall, a wonderful and very fulfilling concert!

PS: Sorry, I tend to get carried away. Will aim at shorter updates henceforth.
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mahavishnu
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Post by mahavishnu »

thanks, Sindhuja for a detailed review. I like the "stream of consciousness" style you have; reporting what you feel as you experienced the concert. Please don't cut short your reviews.

Sounds like a wonderful concert. Now, I am dying to know what he sang after the RTP.

We had a long discussion on metronomes and kalapramanam in another thread, and some examples were specifically from Krishna's music : http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15476

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Post by Enna_Solven »

sindhuja, you need to start working on liking mukhAri. You are missing out a lot. Waiting for his concert here next Saturday. I am going to request mukhAri main. :)

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It was commendable that he went all the way to the atimandara stayi Da (although it didn't sound very pleasant to the ears). RKS responded brilliantly as expected.


Nice Review! You mean anumandra stayi?

Sindhuja
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@Mahavishnu: Glad you enjoyed the review and are not put off by the length. Thanks for the link! Looking into it...
@Enna solven: I like it in krithis, but any more than that puts me off. But sure- I should probably work on it.
@nadhasudha: yes, thanks! corrected it.

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Nice review. Really loved a complete "Carnatic" concert after some time . A lot of times during his alapana singing, after a particularly loud exploration for a few minutes (which was also completely enjoyable) he would suddenly modulate his voice such that it is very soothing and light - but pretty much the same swaras. To me those places really got out the bhava greatly.

The sincerity of his efforts can be seen when he seems to lose himself sometimes. I loved that. In fact for Mukhari I felt he was meditating and it was for the rest of us to join

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Nice review, SIndhuja! Thanks and keep 'em comin'.

I feel the beeps of a metronome are somewhat jarring, though. I wonder if I might get used to it with conditioning. What I do when practising is keep the talameter on mute and just observe the flashing lights to align to tala. I absolutely need a loud shruti source throughout, though. Interesting question.

Oh, and yes, you need to work on liking both mukhAri AND kalyANi! I certainly need to work on PK/gamakakriya and tODi. It seems like it would only be to our benefit to learn to like common ragas!

Sindhuja
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Actually I like Kalyani. It's just that I think it's been overused over the years. Agree that the sound of the metronome can be intrusive. May be a tala box (in the sound of a mridangam- just like a shruthi box in the sound of a tambura) might be better in this regard.

All: I got to know what he sang after I left, thanks to a friend:
There was Surutti after Brindavan Saranga in the ragamalika swaras before wrapping up with Kalyani.
-Vande Mataram - Yaman Kalyani - Adi (I can imagine how this would have loong drawn out in typical TMK style)
-Thirupathi Venkata Ramana- Sindhubhairavi, Adi, Purandaradasa
-Thillana- Khamas, Adi, unsure of composer: must have been Patnam since I was told it was not Lalgudi's.
And I think there was no mangalam...

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Sindhuja,
Thanks for the review. A typical TMK concert, tradition and novelty in one.
Like Mahavishnu, I like a review in the 'stream of consciousness' mode too. It adds a freshness to a review.
You speculate about the mangalam at the end. Did you ask your friend if by any chance he sang it at the beginning?
Just kidding ;)

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Arasi, :)

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Post by gardabha_gana »

arasi wrote:Sindhuja,
Did you ask your friend if by any chance he sang it at the beginning?
Just kidding ;)
I noticed that he sang a varnam(the navaraga malika one) in one of his concerts in the beginning in the US. He needs to make up for it... so...

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Post by MV »

Nice Review, Sindhuja. Maybe you should write for The Hindu :))))

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LOL @Arasi's and gandharbha_gana's comments :D
@MV: Thanks for the comment and for the smiley at the end :P

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Thanks Sindhuja. Fantastic write up.

I will join E_S in requesting a repeat of the mukhAri main ;).. ( but I checked his schedule. He is not singing in our area ). I have an issue with kalyani as well, but only with long alapanas for some reason. There are indeed some awesome songs in that raga. I will have to see how I take in tanam and pallavi in kalyani.

About talabox and sruthibox, two thoughts. A lot of musicians would find the tala box to be too constraining since they do not keep that accurate a time. Without even considering noticeable speedups, after a number of avarthas, the error will start getting noticeable. The mridangists do make subtle adjustments to make up for that, sometimes subconsciously. On the sruthi side, I think that the sruthi sound is needed for the audience so they latch on to the right raga. Without it, in some cases, it may be a bit hard to tell a raga from its graha-beda counter part ( like Abhogi - Valaji ).

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@vasanthakokilam: Thank you, glad you enjoyed the write up. Interesting point about grahabhedam. I have never found a desperate need for a tala box before- it was just this concert where I felt the kalapramanam was changing a bit too much. I do see your point about a tala box being too constraining. The question is, how much leeway an artist can be allowed in flexing the kalapramanam...

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It was a compliment, Sindhuja. Specially with the comments flying against The Hindu reviewers, they must be looking for fresh blood!

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@MV: Flattered. I thought you were kidding. But I wouldn't venture :)

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>The question is, how much leeway an artist can be allowed in flexing the kalapramanam...

Should not be much. Not to the extent you perceived. People have pointed that out about TMK before. But that tendency is just not limited to TMK. But personally I will take that Ottam if that happens in the context of improvisational frenzy.

I second MV's suggestion. 'TMK vs Hindu' discussions is an indication Hindu can use some decipherable reviews ;). But then TMK went on the offensive against Hindu when Hindu pointed out Musicians are too thin-skinned. So, watch out on calling out his kAlapramAnA issues ;) ( just kidding )

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If TMK happens to read all this (don't say he only reads The Hindu!), here's something which may echo his thoughts:

Please sing mangalam to all this kidding around, rasikAs!
I meant, the way 'you' folks place mangalam in a concert--
So, end all this, and write a review as they do, in HinDOO--
Ouch! Did I say, 'mmm, do' ? Yes, please do, do write,
As other papers do, that's quite in order--ouch!
Did I say 'order'? Strike the word! In synch, yes,
In synch with the way I sing!
Any way, why all this kidding?

The rasikAs: kidding...ah, it's that kid Krishna
Who inspired all this!That adored kid who kidded around
And inspired others to kid around too!
In sum, It's your name which inspires us ;)
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Arasi,
:D :grin: :clap:

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@vasanthakokilam: thanks for your response- makes sense :)
@Arasi: very creative :D

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