Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

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Sundar Krishnan
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Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

Post by Sundar Krishnan »

10th July, 2011

In the Uploaded File : Bhrvi-Plvi_Abhgi-Klyni-Todi-Mhnm-ShPVrLi-Mdhmvti.mp3 in : http://www.sendspace.com/file/9nxiqf, I would like to know the Exact Sequence of the Ragams in the Ragamalika, the Taalam and the full Pallavi of this Bhairavi-RTP.

The foll sequence (see below within {...}) is what I could gather by listening to the Ragamalika.
I have used diff colors to pose queries in Red, some comments in Blue and Violet etc.
I request you to confirm / comment and add remarks regarding Taalam and the Full Pallavi Lyrics also.

Thanks in Advance (TIA).

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The sequence I could gather :

5:12 m to 5:48 m : Yesudas sings Abhogi ? (Not sure, I may be wrong ?) – pl confirm Abhogi.
5:49 m to 6:24 m : Violin plays a Ragam, close to Abhogi ; I know this, but can’t immly recall now. What is this Ragam, played by the Violinist ?
[In one of the disc in this site, I remember to have read that in one Ragamalika, MLV would sing one Ragam, and Kanyakumari would then play a different Ragam, and then, MLV would follow it up with an yet different Ragam, and so on ...]

6:25 m to 6:54 m : Yesudas sings Kalyani.
6:55 m to 7:19 m : Violin also plays Kalyani.

7:20 m to 7:39 m : Yesudas sings Todi – pl confirm Todi.
7:40 m to 8:12 m : Violin plays Todi – relatively, easier to identify ?

8:13 m to 9:21 m : Yesudas sings Mohanam, and then the Violin also plays Mohanam.

9:22 m to 10:45 m : Yesudas sings Shubha Pantu VaraLi (Not sure, I may be wrong ?) – pl confirm Shubha Pantu VaraLi.
10:48 m to 11:45 m : Violin also plays Shubha Pantu VaraLi – infusing a different flavour of the Ragam.
11:45 m to 13:37 m : Now, it seems that Yesudas emulates the Violin flavour of Shubha Pantu VaraLi ?
[Is it not rather rare to see Shubha Pantu VaraLi in a Ragamalika ? Any other Egs of Shubha Pantu VaraLi in a Ragamalika ?]

13:38 m to 14:18 m : Yesudas sings Madhyamavati.

14:19 m to 17:05 m : Mridangam and Ghatam

Pallavi :
Vanaja Nayana Mapa Vani Vidu(ra ?)
Mana Vini VinuMa, Vanaja Nayana Ma, Mana Vini Vidu(ra ?)
I have tried to check if this is a composition of SS or T or ST, or ..., but could not find these Lyrics anywhere.
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PS : This song is Track 7 in : http://www.mediafire.com/?5moyjykmlem
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Lakshman
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Re: Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

Post by Lakshman »

You have identified all the rAgAs correctly except the first one. It sounds like AbhOgi but the notes he uses are S D M G S. I could not find any rAgA with this combination.

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Re: Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

Post by Sundar Krishnan »

Shri Lakshman, 11/7/11

Thanks for yr confirmation.

And that is why, I have requested for a confirmation on Abhogi (or a Ragam close to it ? - but it is not Shri Ranjani).

In my query, I was trying to make an ever so slight distinction, that I observed between Yesudas’ singing of this 1st Ragam, versus the elaboration by the Violinist.

So, when you say :
>> “It sounds like AbhOgi ...
pl let me know :
- if you are referring to the rendition by Yesudas ?
- or the rendition by the Violinist ?
- or, in yr opinion, do you feel that both the renditions are of the same Ragam, and in an identical way too ie, without any distinction, whatever be that Ragam ?

I was trying to guess this Violinist – is it Jayadevan ? – with his, let me guess, the Jordan Electric Violin ??

From the same collection of Songs, you can all also listen and enjoy this excellent rendition in Madhyamavati : 3rd Song in : http://www.mediafire.com/?5moyjykmlem
I have uploaded the Madhyamavati song : “sArasa mukha sarasijanAbha” in : http://www.sendspace.com/file/h9rrzs

So, has Yesudas sung purposely in the very high pitch, for such a long duration, just to project the skills of the Violinist and the Jordan Violin ?
I have heard Yesudas sing live in high pitch like this, but probably for a shorter duration.

For those who may want to see the sleek Violin, pl see :
Jayadevan playing note of Madurai Mani Iyer :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqjozvv2Yb8 (3:30 m)
Would like to have a confirmation of the make of this Violin – Is it Jordan Violin ?

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Sundar Krishnan
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Re: Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

Post by Sundar Krishnan »

Also Shri Lakshman,

Would like to know the exact Lyrics of the Pallavi.

TIA

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Sundar Krishnan
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Re: Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

Post by Sundar Krishnan »

A) Can some one else let me know what the first Ragam is - if it is not Abhogi ??

I am referring to :
>> 5:12 m to 5:48 m : Yesudas sings Abhogi ? (Not sure, I may be wrong ?) – pl confirm Abhogi.
>> 5:49 m to 6:24 m : Following this, the Violinist plays a Ragam, close to Abhogi ?? ; I may have heard this Ragam, but can’t immly recall now. What is this Ragam, played by the Violinist ?
Or, is it also Abhogi ?

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I had also raised these observations :

B) >> Is it not rather rare to see Shubha Pantu VaraLi in a Ragamalika ?
Any other Egs of Shubha Pantu VaraLi in a Ragamalika - RTP or otherwise ?

C) >> Any guess on who the Violinist is ? Is it Jayadevan ?

D) >> Would like to have a confirmation of the make of this Violin – Is it Jordan Electric Violin ?

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TIA

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Sundar Krishnan
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Re: Request for Ragams’ Sequence in the Uploaded Ragamalika

Post by Sundar Krishnan »

13/7/11

In Msg 3 above, I had given the SendSpace link for the uploaded song :
“sArasa mukha sarasijanAbha”

I have now re-uploaded the song as :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0wcsmd

My queries on the Violinist, and the make of this Violin still remain.

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