Sri.Pattabhiram Pandit- A rising star on the music horizon

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sgbsblr
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Sri.Pattabhiram Pandit- A rising star on the music horizon

Post by sgbsblr »

Sri.Pattabhiram Pandit, a student of the great maestro Sri.KV Narayanaswamy,

surely has the blessing of his guru as is evident from the way Sri.Pandit

sings, with total involvement,enjoying every nuance himself and singing

without any reservation whatsoever---a style which is his own unique style,

full of bhava and strictly adhering to tradition.He passed on his vibration

to the audience, who thoroughly enjoyed his music.Darbar,Lathangi and RTP in

Keeravani were all rendered beautifully.



The Pallavi was a very difficult one and was sung in ragamalika ,which was

unusual and thoroughly enjoyable as it was innovative and sung to

perfection.Mysore Sri.Nagaraj accompanied wonderfully on the violin, adding

much variety and dimension to further enhance the beauty of each piece.The

taanam in Keeravani needs special mention as it was a treat to

hear.Mannargudi Sri.Easwaran on the mridangam was outstanding and very

inspiring.The taniavarthanam was refreshing. Sri.SN Narayanamurthy on the

ghatam, played with great understanding to give us all a great concert.





*Details of Concert:*



1.Ninnu Kori (varnam)---Mohanam

2.Saadinchene---Arabi

3.Sabhapatikki Veredaivam--Abogi

4.Mundu Venuka--darbar

5.Pirava Varam Taarum---Lathangi

6.Tatvam ariya tarama--Guntakriya

7.RTP (Madhava Sodhari,Sundari, Manonmani Keeravani)------Keeravani (main)

Neraval in Ragamalika--Bhairavi,Bhavani,Kalyani,Neelambari,Shivaranjani



8.Mayamma Anine Pilachite--Ahiri

9.Sarvam Brahmamayam---Madhuvanthi

10.Marubaari taalalelura--Kamas

11.Tillana---Dhanashree

12.Kandu Dhanyanaade---Behag

13.Mangalam

http://youtu.be/gVJ1pUdjYZo
This is an youtube link of Sri Pattabhiram Pandit rendering Saadinchene---Arabi

Utsav, is a mega musical event where famous Carnatic music exponents perform at Unnati Center. It is one of our main fund raising efforts for the Unnati program.
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Post by eppramod »

I attended this concert and yes it was a very good one.
Though the crowd was less he sang with full energy and devotion.The team did very well.

The RTP was the highlight and he sang the ragamalika pallavi very well,with pallavi line ending every time with the ragam being rendered.

I was very elaborate and was set to talam,Adi-2kaLai

I thought #6 was the Garudadhwani song "tatwameruga tharama..." I may be wrong.

He sang Swarams for Abhogi piece,Neraval and swarams for "piravA varam tharum" Neraval was @ "paarvathi nEyaa"

He sang an alapana for Ahiri and if i am not mistaken some slokam preluding Sarvam brahmamayam.
I left just after Swatithirunal's tillana.

Pramod

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Post by mahavishnu »

Sgbsblr: Thank you for all the reviews you posted and this one in particular.

1) The kriti you mentioned as #6 is in ritigowla by P. Sivan and is not usually sung in the middle of the concert. I suspect that it is either intanucu varNimpa taramA in gundakriya or tatva meruga taramA in garudadhwani.

2) I also understand that since you have made so many posts today (which is great, BTW) that you have pasted your material from another editor. Perhaps you would consider just posting single-spaced text with a good amount of white space inbetween, which makes for easier reading. Once again, thanks for your efforts.

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Moderators. Please merge with the other Pattabhiraman thread.

Appu


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Post by ganeshkant »

Today morning (9-10 a.m)I listened to him in AIR.Chennai.He sang sabApathikku,piravA varam in this concert also.The main was swararAgasudhA - S.bharanam.This concert came from Trichy AIR it seems. It was a good concert.I think PB is under Trichy AIR jurisdiction.Does he live somewhere there?

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Just a word of caution to prospective rasikas planning to visit future concerts of PP. He is just an above average singer. Miles away from the beauty of his illustrious guru. His facial and bodily contortions will make the most ardent rasika uneasy in his seat. Of course, taste differs. Wish the artist the very best of luck.

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kssr wrote:Just a word of caution to prospective rasikas planning to visit future concerts of PP. He is just an above average singer. Miles away from the beauty of his illustrious guru. His facial and bodily contortions will make the most ardent rasika uneasy in his seat. Of course, taste differs. Wish the artist the very best of luck.
What kind of a crappy comment is that.
You sound like a meteriological department cautioning of a storm!!!!!

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Kssr: That is a bit unkind, don't you think? Though Above Average is not a bad grade in the larger scheme of things, you paint that so negatively. 'Miles away from one's guru' applies to pretty much all the young artists. He is young and he has his whole career and lifetime to reach the levels of his illustrious guru.

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Post by mahesh3 »

On rasikas, certain individuals like KSSR/Ganeshkant are routinely allowed to spew vengeful rubbish, and the usual crap "moderators" who ruined sangeetham, and still can't be rid of like VK come in using a so called "mild" admonishment! KSSR's ignorance/intolerance is evident in many of his/her reviews, and VK, it's not your business to frigging condone the "grading" of artists....whether it is in the larger or smaller scheme of things!

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Negative opinions are allowed.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Mahesh: I can see you are upset. Understandable. On a lighter note, If it is not my business to condone grading, it is not your business to grade my admonishment :) Take it easy! BTW, you have totally misinterpreted my statement as condoning what KSSR wrote or his grading, in fact it is the opposite. Context matters. KSSR ( and Ganeshkant since Mahesh dragged you in here ): Look what trouble your posts got me into. Watch out, at least for that ;) and of course for the right reasons as well.

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Post by mahavishnu »

I really like the music of Sri. Pandit. Sure, he does not have KVN's voice, but then who does? Sri Pattabhiram has carefully cultivated his singing style. His version of Sadinchene from the concert being discussed here (see video link at top of the thread) was well presented and carried the wonderful sincerity that can be seen in his guru's music.

I was (once again) quite amazed by Mannargudi Easwaran's accompaniment. Was he actually shadowing the lyrics in the charanam, mouthing the sAhityam in sync with the vocalist? See for example at 3:09 and 3:25ish (and later in the video as well).

No wonder his accompaniment is so sensitive and appropriate every time!

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Post by srikant1987 »

Indeed, negative opinions are allowed! :D

But I don't think it's a good idea to "forewarn" people before they first go listen to an artiste -- because a listener just might like them, and it'll do both the artiste and the listener a lot of good. I think it's OK to forewarn friends whose musical tastes you know well about, though. ;)

With celebrities whom most people can be reasonably expected to have listened to already, it isn't that much of a problem.
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Nick H wrote:Negative opinions are allowed.
Another nonsensical statement without wanting to understand the context !!!

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Post by Nick H »

like I said, negative opinions are allowed. Enjoy :)

The context was an opening post that was nothing short of poetic hyperbole. That poster is entitled to his views too, but a little balance was hardly surprising.

Nothing was wrong in this thread, until a couple of members decided to screech about other members. That is behaviour which, in my humble opinion, the moderators might attend to ...

Nothing more to say, so, if you want to screech back at me, be my unattended-to guest.

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I have no intention in screeching back at you. But I did not think you were so insensitive to negative posting which was not warranted !!!

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Post by Nick H »

Honestly, it seemed like an sincerely-expressed opinion to me. I was surprised at the responses --- but the written word has as many interpretations as readers. If it hurt you, then I can't argue with that. Neither the high praise nor the response would put me off seeing this artist, who I do not yet know.

By coincidence, in another thread, the OP is heaping praises on another artist who I do not like at all. But this is not that thread, so I'll keep quiet :)

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Post by cienu »

On going through the posts , I would say that the first sentence of post # 7 was unnecessary. As it is we do not have milling crowds thronging Carnatic Music concerts :) .Rasikas are ofcourse entitled to their opinions but they must also be prepared for brickbats/compliments which the comments may trigger.
"sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" !

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Post by grsastrigal »

Last year, myself and Sri.Santhanagopalan (our Vidhyarthi) attended his concert, Sri.KVN remembrance day, at BVB, Mylapore. He sang an excellant Shankarabharanam. Vidyarthi was full of praise for him in his speech. PP was very humble, attentive and the respect he had on Vidhyarthi, showed the guru-parampara. When the discussion turned on other young artists, he was talking high about them. No ego.

Honestly I wan expecting him to figure in last year MA Dec season. I think he is working in Philips, Bangalore. Definitely very prospecting youngster. I think he had absolute stage discipline. No issues like fduddy says.

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Post by gardabha_gana »

My 2 cents is that - it is ok to have "negative" opinions such as X's kalyani wasn't good on a certain day, Y's maanji had too much of bhairavi tinge etc. However I think one should not get it to saying X is average or above average or whatever with one single sweeping statement. Also, there are postings that try to debate X is better than Y (again not concert specific but in generalities) or X and Y are good but not Z. Well, we are all protected by the First amendment (US) or Article 19(1) (India) :) and we sure have our favorites and not-so-crazy-about musicians. But let's engage in constructive appreciation and criticism that is engaging but not a turnoff and being respectful to the artistes at large.

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Post by fduddy »

Nick - OP is heaping praises on another artist - You can perhaps read it with a pinch of salt if it is too overtly praising. But negativity of KSSR is godamn CHEAP.

Mod - You may consider deleting post no 7 and other related posts to keep this a clean thread....

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Post by Nick H »

fduddy, I agree about the pinch of salt, and took one in that instance. I'd already mentioned my feelings about that particular artist on another thread. I much prefer to stick to posting positive comments, but sometimes it's just not possible, and, even in the face of a big following, one has to state disagreement. Compared to my comments on that particular artist, I think that what kssr said here was really mild! That is another context in which I didn't find his words or tone offensive.

There are a handful of members that I know personally and/or am very familiar with their reviews. They may well directly influence whether I attend a concert or not, others, it is a general tasting of opinions, and all views are welcome.

If I knew the artist, and disagreed with a negative view, and disagreed strongly, I'd certainly be posting, but a positive review like grsastrigal's post seems much more useful and constructive than criticising the maker of a negative post.

Let us agree to some things, disagree to others, and move on?

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Post by kssr »

vasanthakokilam wrote: KSSR ( and Ganeshkant since Mahesh dragged you in here ): Look what trouble your posts got me into. Watch out, at least for that ;) and of course for the right reasons as well.
Sorry, Sri.VK.
When I write something people are furious. Sadly, they are upset with you too, in spite of your efficiency, for NOT punishing me :(

Writing in these columns can cause unpleasantness in some quarters. It is OK.

Thanks Sri.Nick- you know why :)

Although I would be very hesitant to call PP as "A rising star on the the music horizon", the real good quality with this young man is his total devotion to music and his deep desire to succeed in the field. I once again most sincerely wish him the very best in achieving it.

Someone has fairly stated that KSSR is an ignorant crook (or something to that effect :) ) I would like to really accept my ignorance of this high tech CM science. I am just an ordinary rasika. However, I am always a bit troubled when good upcoming artists are praised disproportionately, like in this case PP. I really believe that this effort to support the artist will actually be counterproductive and freeze his/her growth and learning.

Writing a review is to give one's own honest opinion, whether everyone else agrees or not. I hope that most forumites will certainly agree.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

kssr: OK, that sets the context of your post much better. My feedback to you on how to avoid all this and at the same time express your honest opinion is: it matters very much how you express your negative opinion. Your post #7 above ( and a few other such posts in other threads about other artists ) was on the dismissive side, an automatic counter reaction to high praise and a bit callous. Also, refer to Cienu's post above regarding the message your previous post conveyed which is probably not your intention ('discouraging someone from attending PP's concert' ). One technique to put this into practice is to step back a bit after you first want to write something, reflect on it, edit as necessary and then post. It is just an extra few seconds. It is the online equivalent of the good old 'count to 10 before you react'.

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Deleted, as I have now learned that what I had written was not correct!
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Thank you, Sir. Will definitely try to follow these principles in future. ( However you will agree that sometimes a few "matter of fact" words (!) give a better perspective than vazha vazha kozha kozha expressions which ultimately conveys nothing). I once again promise to try not to give you any trouble in future.

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KSSR,

Sorry about that!

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Post by gardabha_gana »

I think now we are disproportionately reacting to kssr - whose posts and announcements I follow keenly. I think we should as Nick said, move on....

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