Naa Jeeva Dhara

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sekhart
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Naa Jeeva Dhara

Post by sekhart »

Hi All,

Im keen on learning naa jeeva dhara in bilahari. tried searching in google. did not find it. can someone please paste the VOCAL version of Naa Jeeva Dhara in Bilahari pls.

Thank you
Sekhar


Lakshman
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Re: Naa Jeeva Dhara

Post by Lakshman »

There is an elaborate rendition of this song by Nityashri at sangeethamshare.com

Ramasubramanian M.K
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Post by Ramasubramanian M.K »

Sekhart: The best rendition(instrumental) is in one of Lalgudi's Cd's. Try googling Lalgudi Jayaraman and Na Jeevadhara. The infinite variety of sangathis in the Pallavi itself captures the whole gamut of the raga Bilahari-- to the point you wonder whether Thyagaraja himself has set so many sangathis to the piece!!
legend has it that the Saint composed this song to revive a dead child--Semmangudi Mama used to make a wry remark that if anybody sings that song with so many sangathis(that seem endless),what little lingering life that is there would also go out!!!!

vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

MKR- Semmangudi Mama's remark is quite humourous as well as practically true. So many many Sangathis !!!

Also req. you to pl write few lines on Mama's Cards Playing. When he had time to play and with whom he was playing etc etc.,
Your writing will be a different kind of music to our curiosity !
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varsha
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Folks . Let us try and have some standard operating procedures . If an original poster asks for something , let us give him just that , if we can .
That achieved , we can go about thumping chests with projecting a world view of cm that believes that the likes of semmangudi - mss - mm iyer form 99 % of the picture .
Sorry to say this , but here in this thread (without giving the answer needed) , we have already moved on to somebody's card playing habits .
Here is a track of a Vidwan , who was the Oasis where Lalgudi quenched his thirst most (perhaps)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ona683gn0t93n1g
Santhanam has sung it brilliantly too .
http://www.mediafire.com/?npq89phokxn1pvp
Semmangudis version exists too .
http://www.mediafire.com/?wrw40ffs7ylua3v

These are only three existing versions to the best of my knowledge and so that makes the OP'S question more important . Cheers.
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narayan
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Post by narayan »

Much obliged to sekhart for the request and varsha for the reply. Have been on the lookout for this for a long time. This version is not really learnable very easily, given the pace at which it has been sung, so good luck - sekart! It is almost exactly the notation that I have for the song.

Pratyaksham Bala
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala »

varsha wrote:... Sorry to say this, but here in this thread (without giving the answer needed), we have already moved on to somebody's card playing habits ...
May I draw your kind attention?
Within 30 minutes of the original request, in post #2 the required answer was given -- without adding any frills!

varsha
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Post by varsha »

May I draw your kind attention?
Within 30 minutes of the original request, in post #2 the required answer was given -- without adding any frills!
Pratyaksham Bala
Too quick on the draw heh !!
That link gives Adathu Asangathu . Obviously you have not bothered to click the song after googling .
It plays Adathu Asangathu - that too a commercial track masquerading as a youtube link .
And you have the gall to refer to my advice as frills .
Frills ?
Take a look at all that is being discussed in what was once a music forum - and do some introspection pl.
cheers.

Pratyaksham Bala
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala »

varsha wrote:That link gives Adathu Asangathu ...
Oh!
In the given link, please see the TOP MOST LINE given in bold letters: " Naajeevadhara - Bilahari - Thyagaraja".
Click this to hear the song!

As for the 'frills', it was definitely not a comment directed against you - it was about my post wherein I had given just the 'link'. Please note that I have no intention of hurting the feelings of any other member.

Ramasubramanian M.K
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Re: Naa Jeeva Dhara

Post by Ramasubramanian M.K »

Hey Folks!! Chill out--especially Varsha-the SSI was a side remark just to "juice'up the post-it was not meant to divert you or other forumites from the thrust of the Question.
re: manjunath's request about card playing and Varsha's reacion to it please be assured it will not be covered in this post.
I will do it in the SSi forum where it belongs lest I ruffle the feathers of sensitive forumites!!!!

Pratyaksham Bala Please rest assured I enjoy your posts notwithstanding the recent exchange!!!
Now for my question on Najeeva Dhara,any idea WHO composed the Chittaswaram?

Pratyaksham Bala
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala »

Ramasubramanian M.K.:
Thanks !!

varsha:
Hope you could locate "Naajeevadhara - Bilahari - Thyagaraja" in the link given in post #2.

bilahari
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Post by bilahari »

Has MSS sung this song? I find her versions most learnable in general due to the supreme clarity of sangatis.

Santhanam is good too. Thanks for the link, varsha.

While nA jIvadhAra is a lovely kriti, the sheer complexity of the pallavi sangatis often overwhelm me, and it almost fizzes out the moment the pallavi ends.

narayan
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bilahari wrote:While nA jIvadhAra is a lovely kriti, the sheer complexity of the pallavi sangatis often overwhelm me, and it almost fizzes out the moment the pallavi ends.
Bilahari, not at all, not at all! The charanam, in particular, has four solid lines, not two lines plus anupallavi pattern repeat which is often found in Tyagaraja songs. I like such songs and this song is no exception. Even the anupallavi is good, and in fact, Raja raja shiromani is worth more than one repeat, which is a line Alathur has rushed through in this rendering. All in all, a golden song.

I too have wondered about who has written the cittaswaram (I don't recall it being there in the Lalgudi LP rendering, but this one is exactly what I have written down from some old notation that I had).

Would very much like to have an update if Sekhar has indeed made any headway in learning this song.

varsha
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Re: Naa Jeeva Dhara

Post by varsha »

varsha:
Hope you could locate "Naajeevadhara - Bilahari - Thyagaraja" in the link given in post #2.
PB Yes .Thanks. Was distracted by the frills myself . I now see your point . My apologies. :)
Here is another 30 minute track for slow learners by THE slow singer .
http://www.mediafire.com/?o0m4r0bfi9atah5

appu
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Post by appu »

This song in my opinion is specially suited for the violin. When performed in a medium to fast tempo the song just reigns supreme. There is a commercial release by TN Krishnan accompanied by Gurvayoor Dorai and Vaikom Gopalakrishnan with Tani Avartanam following.

sr_iyer
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Post by sr_iyer »

narayan wrote: I too have wondered about who has written the cittaswaram (I don't recall it being there in the Lalgudi LP rendering, but this one is exactly what I have written down from some old notation that I had).
Narayan, the 'Lalgudi LP' has a cittasvara, but a different one. The cittasvara that Sri LGJ has played is the same as what Sri Santhanam has sung. (In fact, the kriti's sangati structure of both LGJ and Santhanam are also very correlated)

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