Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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kssr
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Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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Venue: Ragigudda Temple
Kamala Deepti- MP Aditya- Anoor Vinod Shyam

1. Sakala Graha pala ninne- Atana- PD
2. Pantureethi Kolu - Hamsanadham- Ragam, swaram.
3. mamava pattabhi rama -Manirangu
4. Anjikinyathakayya- Kalyani -PD-Ragam , Swaram@ Purandara vittalana
5. Neekela daya Raghu ramachandra- Kadana kudookalam- Mys Vasudevachar
6. (sou) Mithri bhagyame bhagyamu manasa-sou - Karaharapriya, Ragam, neraval, swaram, thani. Thyagaraja. Started the song at Chitra Rathnamaya
7. Virutham followed by
Pahi Rama dhootha jagat prana kumara -Thyagaraja
8. Thavada soham x 3 daasarathe -Punnagavarali-Thy.
9. Rama manthrava japiso - Jonpuri
10. mangaLam


My observations:
a. She is a young talented artist. Taking that into consideration, the concert was fairly good. It was for 1.5 hrs.
b. First two songs were well presented. Quite impressive.
c. Raga and song selection were good in that most of the numbers were well known pieces.
d. All songs were presented at break neck speed. No pauses. No viLamba kaalam. The neraval and swarams went on for many continuous avarthanams at these speeds and without a chance for violin returns, closed.
e. The violin volume was increased unnecessarily, highlighting the harsh sounds it produced. Aditya is a disciple of Sri.T.S.Krishnamurthy who has the softest and most enjoyable bowing technique. Aditya has to fine tune this skill to make his presentation enjoyable.
f. In mamava pattabhi, Kamla deepti just could not reach the higher swarams. Should have avoided the song.
g. In both alapanaais, there were starting hiccups at the lower octave. Rest of it was good.
h. She is a student of Sri.TNS. Should listen to a few hundred hours of his recordings multiple times, to know the variety one can present in a concert, instead of making it a Shatabdi express.
i. She has the potential of becoming a good all round performing artist probably in a couple of years time with constant hard work. I wish her a great musical future.
j. Mridangam gave good support.

Others:
a. On either side of the stage, there were large murals of Anjaneya and Swami Vivekananda sitting on rocks. Where else except India, we can quietly elevate a swamiji to the level of an established god. The oddity is generally not even noticed or realised. Quite interesting and a bit amusing, too !!
b. We were allowed to go to the hall with shoes on. On our way out, we saw sundal prasadam being distributed. Unable to resist the temptation we joined the queue along with the devotees returning from the darshan of Lord Anjaneya. They refused to give prasadam to a shoe wearing person. Weighing the difficulties of removing the shoes and forgoing the prasadam, we decided to skip the prasadam. My wife was a bit disappointed. I consoled saying that, after all, we do not deserve the prasadam as we did not have darshan of the Lord. Sour grapes !! :(

HarishankarK
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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Pahi Rama Dootha - Shadvidhamargini ragam - Thyagarajar krithi
Mamava Pattabhi Rama is usually slow to medium paced and if the artiste sang that also in jet speed it would have killed the song

arasi
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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kssr,
I remember having to take our footwear off before entering the hall. They have changed the rules, perhaps.

Sorry, you could not get SuNDal prasAdam because of that :(

kssr
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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arasi

Yes. It is still the same. There are two places where you can leave your footwear. One for bhakthas and the other for rasikas. I left it in the latter. I wore it back just coming out of the hall.

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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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@HarishankarK - Pahi Rama Dhoota is Vasantha Varali a Shavidamargini janya.. Pls correct me if I am wrong

@Kssr, being a student of Sri TNS, I feel that Kamala Deepti has still got a long way to go. TNS sir is always known for producing quality students and all his students have the gnanam to appreciate the aesthetics of the krithi. Where as I have heard kamala deepti and she has not got that gnanam yet. She needs to do a lot more of home work before getting on to the stage. Anything in excess will spoil the show.

She might be very good at presenting Laya aspects but once again she results in imitating her guru which doesn't sound very impressive while listening to her.
As you rightly said, let me too join you in wishing her that, she gains more and more knowledge and presents good concerts in future.

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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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sangeethadasan wrote: Pahi Rama Dhoota is Vasantha Varali a Shavidamargini janya.. Pls correct me if I am wrong
There are two ragas that are in circulation for this krithi pahi rama dhoota , one in shadvidhaMArgini(46th mela) and the other in vasanthavarAli. VasanthaVarAli is a janya of natabhairavi(mela #20). I cannot recollect what raga TNS school sings this particular krithi.

keerthi
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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Rajesh,

Every single version of pAhi ramadUta that I've heard in the concert circuit, is either SaDvidhamArgiNi, or is labelled as VasantavarAli, and is sung as a janyam of sadvidhamArgini.

I have learnt the NaThabhairavi janyam vasantavarALi version. It sounds like a niSAdAntya treatment of naThasbhairavi. The same is notated by K.V.Srinivasa Iyengar, the redoubtable brother of Tiger Varadacharyar; with a few differences in the lyric as well as tune.

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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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Keerthi
From what you put above Can i say there is two vasanthavaralis(one is janya of shadvidhamArgini and the other janya of natabhairavi). Just googling and looking at few of kutcheri reviews - I find TNS/OST /Suryaprakash/Chitraveena ravikiran/Hyderabad brothers/GG have sung this krithi. I have personally heard only twice and I assumed that it is shadvidhamArgini.

Also what does niSAdAntya treatment of naThasbhairavi mean??

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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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"From what you put above Can i say there is two vasanthavaralis(one is janya of shadvidhamArgini and the other janya of natabhairavi)."

Vasanthavarali was considered as a janya of Natabhairavi in the early half of previous century; later changed to the janya of the latter. This was my observation reading through various books written during different time periods.
As Keerthi had rightly pointed out it was given as a janya of 20 in Sri. KVSrinivasa Iyengar book and as a janya of 46 in many others.

Even as a janya of 20, to my knowledge, there are 2 versions. One given in KVS's book and the other one given in the book Sri Thyagaraja Keerthanaigal - Thillisthana patham by Sri. Parthasarathy.

Keerthi, can u please let us know whom did you learnt this krithi from?
I am asking this as I ve heard only the 46 janya (infact sung as 46 mela) vrsion and 20 janya version is almost obsolete.


"Also what does niSAdAntya treatment of naThasbhairavi mean??"

This means the raga structure will be similar to that of Natabhairavi but the sancharas will be only between mandra Ni and Madhya Ni; no tara sthayi prayogams.

keerthi
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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bhaktim dehi,

I learnt this one from my Grandmother, whose teacher Ananda Rao was a disciple of Chowdiah. But she has also collected many songs from other sources in Mysore. So I am not sure of the provenance. Yes I'm aware that nobody else sings the naThabhairavi version. I would be grateful if you can share the tillaisthanam notation. How much does it differ from KVS?

ganeshkant
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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Yesterday I listened to her in TTD.Seems to have potential but yet to internalize music.I thought her to be a disciple of Pantula Rama since she hails from Vizag and her top to bottom brigha singing in varALi unmindful of the rAga's beauty made me thing so.She has a facile voice and she has to put that into good use.hope she will.

kssr
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Re: Kamala Deepti on 22.6.2014

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Yes. I heard it too. A much better rendition than the live concert. Hope she fixes her minor flaws and grows up to be a good vocalist.

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