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[arvenky]

When he started with a rare Kriti of Dikshitar in praise of his contemporary,Thiagaraja,’Thiagaraja Palayasumam’ in Gowla,I felt that this is going be a great Musical evening!
When he chose’Sogasujuda’ in Kannada Gowla,my guess that he is projecting himself as a replacement of legendary KVN was confirmed.

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[bhakthim dehi]

Thyagaraja palayasumam was composed on the deity Sri Tyagesa residing at Thiruvarur..

[rshankar]

When he started with a rare Kriti of Dikshitar in praise of his contemporary,Thiagaraja,’

REALLY?
Isn't this a composition on the Lord of tiruvArUr and not the Bard of tiruvaiyyAru?
Bhaktim dEhi...my post got held up for a few hours, but should have crossed yours...

[sridhar]

There is also the krithi "thyagaraja yogavaibhavam" in ananda bhairavi again on the lord residing in Thiruvarur temple. It is really amazing there is not a single episode of these two great minds meeting together at some time. We have heard of GKB meeting thyagaraja and composing "sabhabadhiku" on the spot at the request of Shri T but nothing about MD and T ever meeting each other.

[Rsachi]

Sirs,
What I have read is that Muthuswami Dikshitar went and met Thyagaraja.
I quote from the article I have read (compiled by Ravi and Sridhar):

An account is traditionally handed down of the meeting between Tyagaraja and Dikshitar. It is said that when Dikshitar was singing his madhyamAvati composition at the temple, a few of Tyagaraja's disciples were present there. Savouring the exquisite music, they enquired of one of Dikshitar's disciples and gathered details about the composer. They then hurried to their guru and told him of Dikshitar and his music. It was not that Tyagaraja was hearing about Dikshitar for the first time. Great mahApuruShAs are certainly aware of each other, only that they do not reveal their inner cognition. Dikshitar too must have heard of Tyagaraja from many people and most certainly from Shyama Sastri. He must also have listened to the bard's compositions. Tyagaraja asked his disciples to invite Dikshitar home. The bard's disciples returned to the temple and informed Dikshitar of Tyagaraja's invitation, which the former accepted. Tyagaraja regularly recited the Valmiki Ramayana. On that day he had come to the episode of the coronation of Sri Rama. Could there be a greater occasion for the two puruShOthamAs of music to meet than the paTTAbhiShEka day of the Purushothama Himself? Tirumanjana vIdhi is just a stone's throw from the Panchanadeeswara temple.
The bard rose to meet his younger, nevertheless equal contemporary. After mutual respects were over, Tyagaraja requested Dikshitar to stay on and witness the pUja which he performed after the Ramayana recitation. The Rama dAsA's worship on that paTTAbhiShEka day thus acquired a special sacredness. A big crowd of disciples and residents of Tiruvaiyyaru gathered to witness that momentous event. It was a surcharged atmosphere. After the pUja, dIpArAdhanA and ShODasha upachArAs, Tyagaraja bade his disciples sing. It was to be his bhairavi masterpiece koluvaiyunnADe. The whole of Tirumanjana street resonated with the song of its renowned resident. Tyagaraja slowly turned to Dikshitar and requested him to sing on 'my Rama'. The small but majestic, centuries old paTTAbhiShEka icon of Rama with Sri Sita, Bharata, Lakshmana and Shatrugna, complete with the maNTapa and worshipped by Tyagaraja's ancestors and bequeathed to him as heirloom is truly awe-inspiring. Its spiritual power is quite discernible to those who approach it with utmost reverence. What wonder then that Dikshitar sat enraptured?
Was it the mystical power of the icon or the deeply religious atmosphere that pervaded the entire place or the bard's own powerful spiritual presence? It was perhaps a combination of all the three that inspired Dikshitar to dive deep within, to tap his innermost artistic resources. The strain that came out of his very depths, out of his very being had to be special. And it was. The rare maNirangu discovered itself. Dikshitar built a grand edifice for the rAga and bestowed immortality on it. It was an extraordinary edifice, a grandly decorated manTapa (maNirangavalli alankrita maNTapE) studded with the gems of exquisite gamakAs and phrases that Dikshitar gifted to the rAga and made it fit for Tyagaraja's Rama to revel in. The misra chApu tALa that Dikshitar chose for its rhythm was the most appropriate foil. mAmava paTTAbhirAma, a classic par excellence was Dikshitars tribute to Tyagaraja's beloved Rama. The song describes the coronation of Sri Rama in exactly the same manner as Valmiki's Ramayana. The kriti was also appropriate to the occasion and the spirited, sublime music coupled with the majestic sAhitya enshrined the presence of the Lord in the hearts of those who had the great fortune of listening to it. The residents of Tiruvaiyyaru who witnessed the momentous meeting between the two high priests of art music felt elevated and the event took eternal place in their hearts. Such rare, sublime occurrings are seldom spoken of too. The Eternal Cauvery, whose privilege it was to host this great event must have felt proud at the meeting and outstanding accomplishments of Her two children, one, the Eternal Pilgrim, the other, the Eternal Minstrel.

[bhakthim dehi]

Below lines were taken from Prathabyasa pusthakamu of Sri. Subbarama Dkshithar. I think this will solve the riddle.

"I heard from my elders who themselves heard that once when Tyagaraja and my
ancester Muttusvami Dıks.itar met, they told that it was not correct to reveal the names of the secret ragams
of the kırtanams".

[kittappa]

Thyagaraja told Muthuswami Dikshitar not to reveal the names of the ragas. Thyagaraja was apparently not pleased by Dikshitar's raga mudras in his compositions.

[bhakthim dehi]

"They told" indicates it's the opinion of both of both of them ; atleast in my opinion

[rshankar]

"They told" indicates it's the opinion of both of both of them ; atleast in my opinion

The 'They' could also indicate Subbarama Dikshitar's 'elders'

"I heard from my elders who themselves heard that once when Tyagaraja....

who witnessed the meeting...IMO

[kittappa]

"They told" indicates it's the opinion of both of both of them ; atleast in my opinion

How can Dikshitar hold that opinion when he has introduced raga mudras in many of his songs?

[bhakthim dehi]

"I heard from my elders who themselves heard that once when Tyagaraja and my
ancester Muttusvami Dıks.itar met, they told that it was not correct to reveal the names of the secret ragams
of the kırtanams".

names of the secret ragams to be noted in that sentence.

[kittappa]

Pray, what is the exact Tamil sentence in the prathama bhyAsa pustaka?

What does secret ragas mean? If you mean rare, most of the rare ragas are identified in Dikshitar's raga mudra.

[bhakthim dehi]

To my knowledge the mentioned book was not published in tamil. I have posted verbatim from the English copy.

I do not have any answer for the second part of your question. But I can say that excluding ragas like navaratna vilasam the other ragas handled by dikshithar cannot be considered rare as almost all the ragas (handled by him)found their mention in early treatises.