Valaj

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 23 Jan 2006, 15:30

Not a heavy raga,which you can elaborate extensively,but pleasing to ears(ranjayati raga!)and used for small compostions,viruthams
Janya of 28th mela Hari kamboji
Oudava oudava raga
Aro shadjam,anthara gandharam,p,chatu sruthi dhaivatham,kaisiki nishadam
Avaro just the opp
The Hindustani version is Kalavathi
If you add suddha rishabha,you will get Malaya marutha
Not sure about any heavy compositions,but Lalgudi sirs famous Varnam chalamu is enough! Umayalpuram Sivaraman once described Lalgudi as laya samrat.He has such grip over laya and mettu,the first and last charana swaras are examples.

humdinger · Post by **humdinger** » 23 Jan 2006, 16:11

Dr.BMK's Abhogi-Valaji RTP is indeed a masterpiece. cant thank Sri Raju enough....

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 23 Jan 2006, 16:48

Bombay Jayashree`s rendition Vaali`s koovi Azaithal is also a good number

venkmal · Post by **venkmal** » 23 Jan 2006, 17:33

Naamam nalla naamam_Valaji by Soumyaji & the same by KJY also is a good one.

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 23 Jan 2006, 23:50

Here's one of my favorites. SKR's rendition of his guru's composition, preceded
by a sweet alapana (SKR is accompanied by MSG)
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abadri · Post by **abadri** » 24 Jan 2006, 00:01

Bombay Jayashree`s rendition Vaali`s koovi Azaithal is also a good number

Kiran, here is SKR's rendition of Koovi Azhaittal (from a 1983 concert)
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abadri · Post by **abadri** » 24 Jan 2006, 00:08

The Hindustani version is Kalavathi

For a Valaji with a lot of Kalavati flavoring we turn to (who else but ?) Voleti
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Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 24 Jan 2006, 05:38

yes,Voleti sings with a lot of north indian flaovour,shall discuss about his music in a seperate thread,thank you for the audio file

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 25 Jan 2006, 00:37

Another Valaji rendition preceded by an alapana (DKJ w/ LGJ)
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meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Jan 2006, 02:32

venkat

thanks for another wonderful clip

for those interested in the text:

P: vAsudEvana nenedu sukhiyAgu manave I sharIrada bhrAnti inyAko manave
C: nIra gobbaLiyante I dEha sthiravalla dharaNi dhana strIge maruLAgabEDa
nIraja nAbha shrI purandara viTTalana bAri bArige nenedu sukhiyAgo manave

(corrections welcome)

Meaning:
P: Oh Mind Think of Vasudeva and attain bliss.
Why this illusion over this body anymore ?
C: Just like a water bubble, the human body is impermanent.
Do not hanker after land, wealth and women.
Think of Purandara Vittala , the lotus-navelled Lord incessantly and attain bliss.

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 25 Jan 2006, 11:50

thanks so much for posting three different valajis,never heard DKJ singing it so leisurely.TRS sounds young;was it from an old recrding?

Sivaraman · Post by **Sivaraman** » 02 May 2006, 07:50

Nithyashree's rendition of the Sivan krithi, "Padhamey thunai, paramasiva" is also a pleasing one.

Sivaraman · Post by **Sivaraman** » 02 May 2006, 08:01

There is also the harikesanallur muthiah bhagavathar composition, " Jalandhara", rendered so effectively by Hyderabad Brothers.
Both the Nithyashree and the Hyderabad Bros. renditions can be provided to personal email ids if requested to my email id: <tm_sivaraman@rediffmail.com>

nadhasudha · Post by **nadhasudha** » 22 May 2006, 06:43

I thought Valaji is an janya of chakravaakam. It is mentioned above that Valaji is a janya of Harikambhoji. Which is correct and why?

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 22 May 2006, 07:45

I thought Valaji is an janya of chakravaakam. It is mentioned above that Valaji is a janya of Harikambhoji. Which is correct and why?

Since Valaji has the swaras S G3 P D2 N2 S classifying it under Chakravakam (16) or Harikambhoji (28) doesn't make a difference since there is no differentiating Ri. When this happens, I think the common practice is to classify it under the melakarta raga with the lower mela number.

Following this principle, it would be correct to classify Valaji under Chakravakam since this is the first melakarta raga with G3, D2 and N2.

Similarily, Mohanam is classified under Harikambhoji not Sankarabharanam.

nadhasudha · Post by **nadhasudha** » 23 May 2006, 03:46

Mohan,
Thanks for the information. I appreciate you taking the time to clear my confusion.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 May 2006, 11:59

As per Karnatik.com
valaci (valaji)
16 cakravaakam janya
Aa: S G3 P D2 N2 S
Av: S N2 D2 P G3 S

malayamaarutam
16 cakravaakam janya
Aa: S R1 G3 P D2 N2 S
Av: S N2 D2 P G3 R1 S

In theory ,I see an extra suddha rishaba in malayamArutham, would be nice if some body explains little more with a demo to explain the difference between valaji and malayamArutham.

shanks · Post by **shanks** » 25 May 2006, 22:17

LGJ's varnam 'chalamu' is a wonderful composition;
based on listening to a few renderings, to be true to the composer's ideas, it is best learnt from one of his disciples.

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 26 May 2006, 15:34

Muthayya bhagavathar's JAlandhara is a fantastic one,not only for the melodic side,but for the sahitya also.Any non commercial recording of this song,most welcome.Thanks

thathwamasi · Post by **thathwamasi** » 13 Aug 2006, 21:24

There is an interesting connection for Valaji and Abhogi. If we do sruthi bedham on Ahogi from Madhyama, it becomes Valaji..

Sa Ri2 Ga2 Ma1 Da2 Sa Ma1 Da2 Sa Ri2 Ga2 Ma1
Sa Da2 Ma1 Ga2 Ri2 Sa Ma1 Ga2 Ri2 Sa Da2 Ma1

Sa Ga3 Pa Da2 Ni2 Sa
Sa Ni2 Da2 Pa Ga3 Sa

Seshagopal once sang an interesting Pallavi.

The poorvanga would be "Abhogi raaga madhyama moorchanaye Valaji"
Then uthrangam would be in madhyama shruthi "Raga panchama moorchanaye"

It was a great experience. I dont have a recording of that to post. If someone has, pls look for it.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 13 Aug 2006, 23:06

thathwamasi, that is interesting. So, did the Uttaranga sound like Valaji? For the shruti bedam illusion to take place, the audience has to shift their idea of the AdhAra shadjam to madhyamam and I wonder how it was accomplished in one flowing line..

thathwamasi · Post by **thathwamasi** » 14 Aug 2006, 00:10

Vasanthakokilam, Initially, It was tough, but slowly he sang it in such a way that people started understanding it.. Like, he shifted the adara shadjam for the uttranagam, and then sang the purvangam in that shruthi..(in valaji), then the vice versa..One doesn't have to say about seshagopalan..he has a beautiful mind...lol. But I heard it once and I unfortunately dont have a mozartean memory. But I vaguely remember that he also changed the nadai..He had split the thalam into two halves, one being thisram and the other being in chathusra nadai.

thathwamasi · Post by **thathwamasi** » 14 Aug 2006, 00:16

I remember someone telling me that Viswanathan - ramamoorthy duo scored a film song which worked on the concept of shruthi bedham between abhogi and valaji..But I don't know which song it is.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 14 Aug 2006, 07:39

<<Dr.BMK's Abhogi-Valaji RTP is indeed a masterpiece>>

http://www.badongo.com/file/1225345
http://www.badongo.com/file/1225553

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 23 Apr 2007, 15:17

Hallo Rasikas' My creation in Valaji "NEE TANDA ISAI KONDU UNNAI UNARNDENE"Glorifying Lord Ayyappa is available at the following link.
www.karnatik.com/c3541.shtml
Please view , listen and air ur valued remarks.
Ramaraj

shishyapriya · Post by **shishyapriya** » 23 Apr 2007, 22:53

Some Valaji compostions - Karthikeya Kamaleshana by Aruna Sairam and Kai Vida maattan

sikrishnamachari · Post by **sikrishnamachari** » 24 Apr 2007, 07:20

Some Valaji compostions - Karthikeya Kamaleshana by Aruna Sairam and Kai Vida maattan by Swarna Venkatesha Dikshitar

sikrishnamachari · Post by **sikrishnamachari** » 24 Apr 2007, 07:20

shishyapriya wrote:Some Valaji compostions - Karthikeya Kamaleshana by Aruna Sairam and Kai Vida maattan

by Swarna Venkatesha Dikshitar

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 24 Apr 2007, 08:16

Hallo Mr.Chari Sir, Karthikeya -Valaji is a composition of Dr. V.V.SriVatsa, I think.Please correct if i am at variance
Ramaraj

saadhyaa · Post by **saadhyaa** » 04 May 2007, 19:24

Kaividamattan Kanakasabesan and Karthikeya Kangaya by DR Srivatsa are wonderful valajis to enjoy...

saadhyaa

saadhyaa · Post by **saadhyaa** » 04 May 2007, 19:25

It should be read as Karthikeya Kamalakshanaa and not as printed...sorry for the typo error

saadhyaa

ars · Post by **ars** » 05 May 2007, 00:27

Is a recording of T.N.Seshagoplan's version of Abhogi/Valaji RTP available or has this already posted by someone?

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 05 May 2007, 08:49

I only know of BMKs rendering in abhogi-valaji

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 10 Apr 2008, 23:01

Sivaraman wrote:There is also the harikesanallur muthiah bhagavathar composition, " Jalandhara", rendered so effectively by Hyderabad Brothers.
Both the Nithyashree and the Hyderabad Bros. renditions can be provided to personal email ids if requested to my email id: <tm_sivaraman@rediffmail.com>

Somehow I feel MMI was the best in rendering this kriti.

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 11 Apr 2008, 06:29

There is the song 'Koovi azhaiththaal kural koduppan'- Bombay Jayashree has rendered it beautifully.

annapoorne · Post by **annapoorne** » 11 Apr 2008, 08:10

Santhathamu ninne korithini---- a wonderful GNB composition

hariharan · Post by **hariharan** » 02 Nov 2009, 18:22

can someone please post he audio link for the full song of " kaividamattan kanakasabeshan' song in the rag Valaji.

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 03 Nov 2009, 09:00

sikrishnamachari wrote:
shishyapriya wrote:Some Valaji compostions - Karthikeya Kamaleshana by Aruna Sairam and Kai Vida maattan
by Swarna Venkatesha Dikshitar

The latter composition is by one kallal (or is it kaLLaL?) rAmanAthan. It is rendered by Smt Aruna Sairam in her album entitled, "Madhurasmriti" released by Charsur.

The cAmuNDAmba ashTOttara kr.ti, "jAlandhara supIThastE" and "kOva rAkO" of yOga nArasimham are nice pieces in this rAga.