Prasanna Venkataraman @ MA, 30/12

[sankark]

KP Nandini - violin
S Aravind - mridangam
Madipakkam Gopalakrishnan - khanjira

kanchadaLAyatAkshi - kamalAmanOhari - Adi - MD (s@kanchadaLAyatAkshi)
O rAjIvAkshA - Arabhi - m cApu - T (r)
sri pranathArthihara prabhO murArE (72 mela rAgamAlikai) indu & nEtra chakras
evvari mAta - kAmbhOji - Adi - T (rns@bhakta parAdinu, tani)
RTP (un darisanam kidaikkumO natarAja dayAnidhE) - s'madhyamam - c triputai m nadai? ragamAlikai swarams in ?, kAnadA
viruththam (arumponnE maniyE) followed by
mAnasa sanchararE - sAmA - Adi - sadAsiva brahmEndrAL

very good music for 2 hours. racy kAmbhOji alapanai will linger in my mind for quite sometime.

[pperumal]

Wonderful Kambhoji. Kudos to the artists for a wonderful fare!!!
Found his vocalisation a bit exaggerated for his age though.

PP.

[devan]

he is not young.he looks young.

[pperumal]

he is not young.he looks young.

actually i found his vocalisation more like that of a 50 year.
again - taking no credit from his nyaanam.
it was an excellent concert.

- PP.

[PUNARVASU]

How old is 'young'? If 30 is young, he is young!

[Madras Talkies]

Prasanna presented a outstanding concert. He could have planned his concert better and allocated few more minutes for Rtp.

[harimau]

He was quite promising when he was learning under T K Govinda Rao. Then he moved under the tup-tup artist and started singing alapana with phrases like la la la, lu lu lu.. I ran out of his concert at that point and haven't heard him since. Does he think he is Madurai Mani Iyer?

I am reminded of the Tamil proverb: Than kettathu poraadhunnu Chandra pushkaraniyaiyum kedutthaanaam. Applies to the tup-tup artist.

[sureshvv]

He has added tra la & tra na to his repertoire with great panache. Chandra pushkarani never smelt so good. A style which is a unique amalgamation of many influences makes his music stand out & I can see his enduring contribution to the art.

[harimau]

He has added tra la & tra na to his repertoire with great panache.

Thanks for the warning. I shall not attend his concert for another 5 years. And maybe not even then.

[sureshvv]

Au revoir Hope to see you back eventually under the cover of social studies when your authoritative sources allow you.

[Rsachi]

Gents, hold your fire His name was on my weak radar after I heard several months ago a quote from his present guru that he had something even Abhishek could learn from.

Right now I am planning to share a lecdem from Prasanna for Sunday Brunch!
Maybe I am not cultured enough to break into a rash while listening to tup thup gup shup tra la shangri la etc. ?

[rshankar]

RSachi...when we do break into a rash at that type of singing, we can consider ourselves elevated to the status of a true rasika....until then let's just enjoy music that elevates our spirits, and not someone else's!

[harimau]

He has added tra la & tra na to his repertoire with great panache.

Again, thanks for the advance warning. I owe you one - big time.

[Rsachi]

Guys I got some excellent Begada from Prasanna at isailive archive of a very recent concert. I failed to spot the tarantula of tra la etc. Maybe I need to see a doctor

[tiruppugazh]

He was quite promising when he was learning under T K Govinda Rao. Then he moved under the tup-tup artist

From 'shake shake shake' he moves to' tup tup tup' Nice

[sureshvv]

Guys I got some excellent Begada from Prasanna at isailive archive of a very recent concert. I failed to spot the tarantula of tra la etc. Maybe I need to see a doctor

Nadopasana kriti? May be from Brahma Gana Sabha which was a great concert.

[rshankar]

Maybe I need to see a doctor

An ENT surgeon, or a psychiatrist?

[Rsachi]

I am going for an Ayurveda regimen of panchakarma.

[sureshvv]

Does he think he is Madurai Mani Iyer?

If it sounds good, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. What has Madurai Mani Iyer got to do with it? Trying to understand your thinking here.

[hnbhagavan]

Dear Sri harimau,

The way you are eliminating the names of the present performers,a month long chennai festival may be at most a couple of days or a week in total!

[cacm]

I am GLAD Harimau has the GUTS& KNOWLEDGE TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE; Another way of expressing it is Emperor has no clothes. or at least he is not wearing them!....A REFRESHING BURST OF KNOWLEDGE& HONESTY IN A ............MADRAS MUSICAL WORLD.

[rshankar]

I am going for an Ayurveda regimen of panchakarma.

LOL - here's hoping that your hearing, or the ability to process what you hear improves (dare I add 'to Harimau-ean heights'?)!

[harimau]

He has added tra la & tra na to his repertoire with great panache.

Whatever you do, don't refer him to the Christmas carol "Deck the Halls with Boughs of Holly".

He will then add "fa la la la la la la la" when he sings "Chakkani Raja Margamu".

[harimau]

If it sounds good, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. What has Madurai Mani Iyer got to do with it? Trying to understand your thinking here.

Musical texts tell you that the way to sing raga alapana is using akaram only.

Madurai Mani Iyer deviated from it but it is reported that his illness affected his voice and so he had to resort to substituting at times 'la a la'. You will find T V Sankaranarayanan doing it.

But for someone who trained under redoubtable gurus such as Balamani mami in Bombay and T K Govinda Rao in Chennai to attempt to imitate MMI sounds like a cheap parody.

I have violent objections to that and voted with my feet.

And an honest guru would have grabbed him by the throat and threatened him with serious bodily harm. I blame the tup-tup and dugu dugu artist for not doing that.

[harimau]

Dear Sri harimau,

The way you are eliminating the names of the present performers,a month long chennai festival may be at most a couple of days or a week in total!

Actually, Chennai is bursting with newcomers to the fold of music performers so there is no fear of that happening. In fact, I haven't yet heard newcomers like Sunil Gargeyan, Deekshitha Venkataraman, Vignesh Ishwar and a host of other youngsters who are well-regarded so I think I shall have a long innings.

Plus, of course I shall be continuing my sociological research and that should extend my Season!

Thanks for your concern though.

[cacm]

DELETE THIS DUPLICATE POST. VKV

[cacm]

If it sounds good, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. What has Madurai Mani Iyer got to do with it? Trying to understand your thinking here.

Musical texts tell you that the way to sing raga alapana is using akaram only.
Madurai Mani Iyer deviated from it but it is reported that his illness affected his voice and so he had to resort to substituting at times 'la a la'. You will find T V Sankaranarayanan doing it.....

I have discussed with mmi the very same subject & he said it was not HIS health but the effort to be ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN BOTH SRUTI & SWARASTHANAM THAT FORCED HIM TO INDULGE IN THESE WHAT ARE CONSIDERED BY SOME TO BE "OUT OF SYLLABUS" . WHEN ANY ONE ELSE LIKE EVEN THE GREAT TVS DOES IT ITS OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE DOING THESE IN A PURPOSELESS & SOULLESS FASHION. Also many vidwans who could not understand his popularlity resorted to many angles to criticise mmi & these are some of the cheap shots.....Sangeetha Kalanidhi TVG in a speech on MMI AT SARASWTHI VAGGEYAKKARA TRUST IN THE SEVENTIES CORRECTLY EXPLAINED & POINTED OUT THAT USE OF VOWELS & CERTAIN SOUNDS MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE & MMI WAS DOING IT FOR THAT REASON. There were tmks in those times too........ PMI SAID THE SAME THING WHEN HE SAID MUSIC CONSISTS OF FREQUENCIES BEING RENDERED perfectly....

[cacm]

Duplicae post. To be deleted by admin

[sureshvv]

Musical texts tell you that the way to sing raga alapana is using akaram only.

Texts are good in that they capture the state of the art when the text got written. You seem to be confusing them with gospel.

Madurai Mani Iyer deviated from it but it is reported that his illness affected his voice and so he had to resort to substituting at times 'la a la'.

Was this reported in Dinamani? If you have not realized it by now, you should take that with a generous helping of salt. This is like saying Einstein came up with the theory of relativity because he had to stay home due to the flu. IMHO, MMI did it for solely aesthetic reasons. Because he thought it sounded good. Period. I think VKV has confirmed it (but it is hard to say with all those CAPITAL LETTERS )

You will find T V Sankaranarayanan doing it.

And you think this is a violation too which needs to be discouraged?

But for someone who trained under redoubtable gurus such as Balamani mami in Bombay and T K Govinda Rao in Chennai to attempt to imitate MMI sounds like a cheap parody.

Art imitates life.

And an honest guru would have grabbed him by the throat and threatened him with serious bodily harm. I blame the tup-tup and dugu dugu artist for not doing that.

You have no idea what it is to be a guru.

[Vyuptakesha]

Prasanna did a fair job at MA - his alapanas were pretty good.
What was good, was he didnt ape Sanjay. A few years ago, he did it throughout the concert.
That definitely cut down his natural style.